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Mafia 89.75 (SPOILERS) A Whole New World

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:00 AM

After me attempting to fix my mistake:


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So doesn't that make my role worthless until we've successfully lynched a killer? Assuming we have paired killers that is. =/


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I think for now I will
Provisional: Guard Atrahal

Too reasonable. Maybe it's Ment? Not sure, though I think he's gmt so maybe that's wrong.


-Kind of, but it will come in useful at a more crucial point.

Okay noted.

Are you about to confirm confirm this?
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:32 PM

Completely fucking Random...sigh... Well nothing that you can do about that. At least in the last game ansible alted me and then went after me. Next time you run a paired killer with a symp. If you don't have enough players for the paired healers then go with finder and a healer. Or healer and vig or finder and vig. Or cult leader and healer and vig or FM and finder and Godfather.... ;)


Are you running the game through the MM?
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostObdigore, on 25 July 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Ahhh ok. Normally in a 12v3 game you wouldn't put any roles on town, but we are all so terrible its probably a good idea.

Finders are really strong if they can stay alive.

KL and HO are good players and Mental is a very good Symp iirc. I have not played with Roldom so I don't know if he is any good. Should be interesting ;)


From what I remember Roldom is a decent player. It has been a while. Mental is good if he is around if either one of his scum come under fire.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

Also I hate the pretty lively there for a while. But then you didn't post for 14 hours. Like players don't go home and sleep and what not. Seriously it is fucking retarded.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:56 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 July 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

After me attempting to fix my mistake:


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So doesn't that make my role worthless until we've successfully lynched a killer? Assuming we have paired killers that is. =/


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I think for now I will
Provisional: Guard Atrahal

Too reasonable. Maybe it's Ment? Not sure, though I think he's gmt so maybe that's wrong.


-Kind of, but it will come in useful at a more crucial point.

Okay noted.

Are you about to confirm confirm this?


^^he's right, but that's how it's supposed to be. In M&P games, Guard is usually best off just not using their action until one scum is dead.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

yep - recipe for disaster, cant affect scum but could stop healer or finder.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:57 PM

View PostVengeance, on 26 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Also I hate the pretty lively there for a while. But then you didn't post for 14 hours. Like players don't go home and sleep and what not. Seriously it is fucking retarded.


Who me?

Yes I got the roles wrong, completely, I should have had a healer for a second town role, yes it will all no doubt end in disaster and angry players. I do apologise I was distracted when I added in a guard role and didn't think it through, since it was right before I sent out the PM's.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:03 PM

Telas is not happy with me either I don't think.

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Sorry about the lack of confirmation. I was asleep so I hope you weren't delaying night for me too long.

I don't like the situation I'm in with my role. Since I can't confirm anything, really, I'm pretty much RI until we've managed to nail one scum. In the meantime, throwing around guards just takes a risk I will block a heal or find, which does not do town any favors.

However, given the possibility of two NKs (which I find unlikely considering the game's size and low tmdi) I should switch my guard off of atrahal. If there are indeed two scum killers who choose independently, there should be two NKs tomorrow, unless I manage to pick the other killer.

Provisional: Guard Osserc

I don't like the way he's been playing. But again, hard to really pick an informed decision on who to guard since I can't confirm anyway.


Kalse's provisional:

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so it seams theres a scum hidden underneath darkwings mask....

well lets go on the idea that team scum cant help but put tell tales in there avatars

provisonal find on osseric, if lynched or killed find on tellen

now to see who SL has been nice to so I can make a more educated guess.


Scum talk:
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@KL - You got Venge?? That was your idea first off, right, so well done. That guy would make our lives hard, and since you were probably already on his list, you have nothing to lose. Ha! Going to thread now, while working so it will be slow.
Do you have anything that I should work on today while you are gone? I'll be looking for our next target some, maybe try to start some movement toward putting someone in the lynch line. Do you have any ideas about who our symp might be?


Rash

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Yeah it was sort of accidental. I didn't want to go for Tellen any more because someone put a fairly decent case on him and I thought it would be useful for today. I was tempted to kill the case maker (Can't remember who it was off the top of my head) but that would have a been to blatant, so I picked Ruse, because they were a fairly high poster but hadn't been involved in much of the shenanigans we were involved in. Hilariously people are now picking through Ruse's interactions. If they find anything linking to us I'll cry.

I think adding to the confusion where possible is the only thing we should work on. I tend to play it by ear and take advantage of anything that pops up rather than have a defined strategy, but if you've got any plans I'd be super keen to hear them. As you can maybe see by my flailing above, I tend to panic off thread a little ;)

No idea about the symp, I thought maybe Atrahal because he was one of the people who kind of went hmm nah when the case was made on me, (I think) but there were one or two of them so it's tricky to say. In any case that's one of the reasons I didn't put them down as our random kill. Also I'm finding Sorrit friendly, but I think that may be the way they play ;)

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

Well, he's been in a situation many guards have been in and now empathizes with their lack of efficacy i nearly game night actions. Guards are extremely powerful end game if one scum is dead.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:49 AM

sixty really shouldnt use his guard. by his own reasoning he is going to come up false positive. for his test to work he should not guard until two people die at night.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:17 PM

Some more scum talk:

Kasch

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no plans, we'll play by ear as you say for now. I'm not analytical enough of mafia to scheme it out. Agreed about Tellan, Atrahal & Sorrit, we leave them alone

We need to find our symp, ofc. The bad thing about going after low posters is that we need them to make us look more helpful & productive. I'm thinking a higher poster, maybe somebody that seems strong in the case-fu.

Until tomorrow

In case there's a speed lynch while we're both gone,

Kill Eloth, if lynched kill Liosan

KL, this is just a precaution, the only one I could think of right now, we'll change as needed


Rash

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In that case maybe we should look at Shelly, Telas or Kalse? Eloth and Lio are getting enough heat on thread for me to be happy to leave them for now, but I'm okay with leaving them up as provisionals :)

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HO no one's voted for you, but you're getting a bit of attention on thread. Can probably fix it easily enough by coming on thread and posting though, you can probably ignore what they say too, since no one has really got anything concrete on you.

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actually, I take back what I said before. Lio is so generally suspicious killing him probably won't point directly to us.

Can I suggest kill Lio, if lynched kill Telas
What do you think?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

Kalse's thoughts

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I seem to be just muddling things up at the moment.

I need to help atrahals vote against SL but after my defense of atrahals before I can't join with him when the case against SL is so weak....

At least I can't at the moment

With SL attacking lio and atrahal going for SL I'm moving them to my town list for now

My main thoughts are on kashcen and osseric right now


Some of Telas' thoughts:

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Man if I were a killer I'd be in such a great spot right now. I have a pretty decent presence but no one seems to suspect me of anything. In fact, I've been awfully agreeable with everyone. How does that happen??


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wtf, I am master coaster. Haven't contributed jack shit. No one even MENTIONS me. Wtf.


I have a feeling I'm gonna get NKed soon if this keeps up.

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Also, Atrahal = ment? maybe? idk


On the subject of alt guesses:
Shelly/Ment

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Emu is D'rek, isn't she?


-I will neither confirm nor deny.

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Ruse is Vengy

I think Tennes might be Tapper

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:35 PM

Alt guesses and summaries from Tennes/Tata:

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Alt Guess

Shelly is Ment



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shelly votes emur due to his chinese
tellan votes emur due to his korean
kalse votes him for being bi lingual
kaschan doesn't even want to translate
osseric votes for emur for starting crazy talk
osseric does not respond to evil witch avatar question
then emur starts singing "war" by Frankie Goes to Hollwood
personally i think emur will turn out innocent
tellan says reacting to joke votes but 4 votes on day one is almost a lynch
shelly removes
liosan complains about peoples avatars
ruse votes liosan based on this
tellan summarises that we have no choice but to vote either emur or Kaschan
emur doesn't know Merida's name from Brave!!!
liosan votes rashan
eloth comes on straight after this and calls liosan out
emur votes liosan
then removes
liosan again makes a mistake on low poster count
Liosan says they are best bet - Eloth and Rashan

Eloth HATES Disney, that is scandalous
ha ha i have atrahal singing be our guest :)
kaschan doesn't like anything so far in terms of a case
sorrit comes on and rp's
eloth votes for tellan for bringing up potential signalling twice
hmm kasch is throwing everything down, like day one is shit why bother?
then leaves without voting
sorrit think bottom 3 and top 3 are most likely scum
what about middle road, it's totally wifom
liosan removes vote
atrahal compliments liosan for bringing out the low posters


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telas talks to liosan and kaschan
tellan points to emur and rashan as the best lynch candidates
i find kaschan to be somewhat scummy, he votes for emurlahn
rashan votes emur
sorrit votes emur
liosan votes emur
shelly thinks at best emu could be a symp
d'riss comes on, scummy! says he is catching up
defends emur or says we'll get nothing off the lynch
d'riss has similar thoughts to me, scary!
sorrit removes but raises a good point
atrahal also makes a good point
fuck i am so agreeable with d'riss he needs to die ha
by the way this is at his tellan post and vote
atrahal votes emur then removes to tellan
shelly votes for emur
sorrit votes emur
atrahal votes after the fact to make sure


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Reactions to lynch and night resolution

osseric role plays, doesn't even mention deaths
the gloats about emur by saying porr little emur
i'm leaning towards town
ozzy says princesses are scum
sorrit highlights ruse and tellans interaction
kalse points out a couple of ruse interactions ie with liosan and ozzy
kalse speculates on roles


D'riss speculates:

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Current guess: Kalse and Lio are both scum.


Rashan alting

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Also Osseric is Bliss


Tellan has the same guess:

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Osseric makes me think of Bliss. Maybe its the mothering thing.


-I couldn't possibly say.

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You could, but I wouldn't understand you.

Damn Scots.


He may be regretting this observation at the moment:

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Ruse signaling to Kaschan by choosing a similar avatar?

Also, SL is in there somewhere.


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Telas must be Sixty! Complaining about ansible again ;P


I will miss Tellan's chat on his feelings of angst if he is lynched but I can't help feel it would be karma for having me read some random emo poem he copied from somewhere or other, oh the angst!
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:13 PM

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maybe ruse was a symp and the ducks are all scum, i mean i know SL is scum....

provisional find on kaschan, if lynched of killed find on osseric, if hes gone aswell find on Tellan



Kalse is doing real well with his finds, it looks like town are all over the place on the thread but with two confirmed scum for Kalse that would swing things back in town's direction I'd say. Of course there will be a NK and lynch to contend with, with two town members looking to be the most likely targets.

Still, I wonder how long he'd wait to reveal if he had two scum. May get things moving faster.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:13 PM

He did a find on Rashan night one?

Nice.

If he finds Kaschan night 2 it's game over. Seriously. Be the fastest Mafia game ever.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:17 PM

I choose Donald Duck because I am a die hard Oregon Ducks Fan and Donald Duck is our mascot. Those people who have played in FF with me should know this. :)

This post has been edited by Vengeance: 27 July 2012 - 06:18 PM

How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

You chose Donald Duck because you wear a shirt but no pants.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 27 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

You chose Donald Duck because you wear a shirt but no pants.


HD you promised that you wouldn't tell..... :)
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

Weird game thus far. I like it. Other than lynching D'rek.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:04 PM

I feel like I have made every possible mistake, I think i'd feel a lot better if so much shit hadn't hit the fan this week, unforeseeable bad timing is all. :)

The killers need some discussion time:

Kasch

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Remove all previous kill orders

I need time to think


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KL, need to consult, I summon thee!


Rash:

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I'm here, half asleep and meant to have woken up an hour ago
what are you thinking?


Kasch

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glad you showed - we are about to take some heat I'm afraid, for low posting, being absent etc.


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to kill: I feel Lio or Eoth could be symps


Meanwhile:

Telas

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We just lynched our lowest poster. After 2 days, Rashan, Tennes, Kaschan, and Liosan all have fewer posts than Emu, who was lynched on day 1. Seriously guys?


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Guard Liosan


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I don't like how Tellan has plunged off the radar now after osseric/liosan flared up. D'riss seems to have been responsible for both the initial Tellan push and then the Osseric push. Could he be the symp?


Kalse teetering on the brink:

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should i find driss instead....hmmm

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