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Mafia 89.75 (SPOILERS) A Whole New World

#101 User is offline   JLV 

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:20 AM

 Gust Hubb, on 27 July 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

Well, at least I'm finally garnering attention. I feel like I make it through most of these games with few to no votes let alone full fury suspicion.

This is looking promising for town, and I wouldn't feel too bad about the guard Mottkins. As you said, you gave town a little boost, they just have to wait a little longer.

I'm really worried for our finder though.... I thought his adamancy on Liosan's innocence was suspicious. And even though it looks like he didn't do a find on Lio, I picked up a finder scent and backed off. Hopefully the killers won't catch the same thing. Hang in there Roldom!


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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:23 AM

 JLV, on 02 August 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

Really?? Rashan and Kaschan? Fuck off. I quit.

I fucking understand the need to get rid of low posters, but lynching a low poster ever fucking day makes for shit mafia.

Fuckk off. Now what the fuck ahppened with the finder shit.
God I;m not used to being angry out of character.


Well, you see, Kalse did a find on the symp, and was told he was scum.
and then he (correctly) spotted picked Kaschan as his second find.

thankfully, you guys lynched the symp instead of kas, thus destroying the finder's credibility.
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:26 AM

 Tattersail, on 31 July 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Good Game Mott. You certainly spiced things up in there.

It honestly doesn't matter, it has a better ending now than two finds night one and two turning out to capture scum. It's got to be 50/50 now whether town get them or not. You see it looks like Kalse was deflecting from Rashan, so once Kalse goes they might lynch Rashan. Only thing is Kaschan is cleared. Until the end of the game that is. I think this could go to the wire.

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I never RP which was fun.

I hardly take notes and can see how helpful they can be.

Good game. I enjoyed it



There is NO way they get Rashan, he was seen as my possible partner, and Sorrit is gonna try to clear him.

This is what I have wrong with the decision of Mott not to inform the thread that she made a change to the basic rules of mafia. Because since we lynched Venge and we have to assume mafia works normally, then that means Kaschan is SO likely not to be scum its unbelievable.

Don't think town can take this. Don't think scum deserves to win it. I'm not mad at you Mott, understand that mistakes happen, but you really should have put the fuckup on thread imo.


I enjoyed the hell out of playing regardless, but dammit I want to win a fucking game for once in my miserable mafia career. I don't even draw scum, and scum wins all too often.

THAT SAID...

town actually did pretty well this game after the first part. Not in results, but in effort. I haven't seen much this much effort in M&P games in a while, and I think it comes with Sixty being back and other people trying to pick up their game a bit. I''m hoping he doesn't stop playing because of the shit low posting shit.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:29 AM

 Roldom, on 31 July 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

nobody believes me :p going to read through SH and see who was who


Dude I am so sorry. Way more than I am to gusty for calling him a faggot. I actually thought you were retarded for a bit there. But now I see it wasn't your fault, and looking back at how you scrambled and begged to lynch kasch... goddammit if I wouldn't have switched us from kasch to SL... FUCK.

I'm spamming SH, DEAL WITH IT.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:33 AM

 Tattersail, on 01 August 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

i wonder what rule I broke, i never did find out, mafia 101....


You called Eloth out on his "I am Finder" post. I also saw it as such right away, and I'm surprised he didn't turn out to be. If he wanted to outright reveal, he would have done it on thread, so you should not mention it, allude to it, or anything.

Get a vet to disagree, 'cause I suck at this game sometimes, but that's 101 in my book.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:34 AM

 HoosierDaddy, on 01 August 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Since when do finders CF as finders?

I've seen that in a low TMDI about once in the last 20 or so games.


Never. Fuck that shit. Fucking Brujah.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:38 AM

Okay, last post.


Do any of you remember the newb and vet game? Do you remember Gust Hubb the scum? Do you remember how he controlled thread the entire time, acted the concerned townie, and still came out with the win?

That. That was interesting to watch. The feeling of losing in that way is pure agony.

Losing to low posting scum just leaves me feeling empty and wishing I could have the time I spent building those cases back.

As ment said, sometimes RL can be a bitch... but... it just fucking sucks to play against this.



Fucking bed time. FUCK.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:59 AM

 JLV, on 02 August 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

Okay, last post.


Do any of you remember the newb and vet game? Do you remember Gust Hubb the scum? Do you remember how he controlled thread the entire time, acted the concerned townie, and still came out with the win?

That. That was interesting to watch. The feeling of losing in that way is pure agony.

Losing to low posting scum just leaves me feeling empty and wishing I could have the time I spent building those cases back.

As ment said, sometimes RL can be a bitch... but... it just fucking sucks to play against this.



Fucking bed time. FUCK.


Time for an altless game IMO. That will level the playing field.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:03 AM

 JLV, on 02 August 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

Really?? Rashan and Kaschan? Fuck off. I quit.

I fucking understand the need to get rid of low posters, but lynching a low poster ever fucking day makes for shit mafia.

Fuckk off. Now what the fuck ahppened with the finder shit.
God I;m not used to being angry out of character.

As a LEGITIMATE low poster, i take offense at this. I figured if I chose an villain as my avatar and then tried to post 'town' i'd be throwing myself on the line for a 'townie' AND get some ribbing from The Real Scum. Just goes to show dude, that every game must be taken separately. We've had games where high posters were scum too... it is what it is,.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:46 AM

 Roldom, on 01 August 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Can anyone give me any advice on what I did wrong as a finder? Ive never been one before and I certainly didnt help much this time...


you got two scum on your finds.

you were alive to make the reveal great.

the last thing you needed to do was convince everyone. We tested your reveal but no one believed you after he came back innocent :p
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:01 AM

 JLV, on 02 August 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

Okay, last post.


Do any of you remember the newb and vet game? Do you remember Gust Hubb the scum? Do you remember how he controlled thread the entire time, acted the concerned townie, and still came out with the win?

That. That was interesting to watch. The feeling of losing in that way is pure agony.

Losing to low posting scum just leaves me feeling empty and wishing I could have the time I spent building those cases back.

As ment said, sometimes RL can be a bitch... but... it just fucking sucks to play against this.



Fucking bed time. FUCK.


You have KL and HO as scum, what did you expect? I think they've played tremendously, they've been around and deflected attention away from themselves, look how cool calm and collected Kaschan was when Kalse revealed, they didn't even try to kill him that night. The night I was killed I was coming for Rashan/Kaschan the next day. There was a reason for it but I would have wanted Rashan dead anyway. Buddying up to me, coming on and posting once someone mentions that they aren't posting. Kaschan for not actually trying to build a case. Neither scum have built a case this game to my knowledge.

I do think they've done well not to get lynched!!
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:47 AM

 JLV, on 02 August 2012 - 04:20 AM, said:

 Gust Hubb, on 27 July 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

Well, at least I'm finally garnering attention. I feel like I make it through most of these games with few to no votes let alone full fury suspicion.

This is looking promising for town, and I wouldn't feel too bad about the guard Mottkins. As you said, you gave town a little boost, they just have to wait a little longer.

I'm really worried for our finder though.... I thought his adamancy on Liosan's innocence was suspicious. And even though it looks like he didn't do a find on Lio, I picked up a finder scent and backed off. Hopefully the killers won't catch the same thing. Hang in there Roldom!


pleasure playing with ya gusty. hopefully you ignored the shouting. it's too fun not to do when masked by anonymity.


Naw, I take it in stride, and as long as I'm calm, the yeller is the one hurting, not me.

You are a bastard though :p With all love meant JLV.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:54 AM

I think the find of the symp as scum was a Catch 22 mistake. If Mott had revealed on thread, scum would have been furious with her and would say that they could have won if it wasn't for that disadvantage. As it was, town still had a chance and even started the game with the advantage, so I think mistake or no mistake, both sides were given a fair shake.

Town needed to overcome the hurdle of logic that finders can't find symps, a tenant of mafia but still not necessarily a hard and fast rule.

Think about it this way, in the future, if we use <ott's mechanic, it adds a whole new dimension to the finder. Do they reveal (which is often a checkmate move for them in games where they are confident their finds are of killers) or do they try to manipulate the thread towards who they know is scum? I know it was a mistake, but seriously, I think it's a new way of playing that has a lot of potential behind it.

That's my 2 cents on the issue.

And I will reiterate what others said Roldom. You were a great finder.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:58 AM

Thanks everyone :p really loved the game.

hope im a symp sometime soon, then your going to see some crazy play :p
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:52 PM

Yikes, Sorrit's vote on Atrahal is a little pre-emptive I think. The moment I saw that I had gotten NK'd, I knew that Atrahal wasn't scum, which I confirmed when I got my SH password. Hopefully Sorrit thinks of that and removes vote before Rashan and Kaschan can hammer him.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:00 PM

I think that is why Kaschan hasn't added their vote. He is waiting on Rashan to be around. If Sorrit is around he could wait on whoever votes and then remove before the other one could follow, that way he'll know for sure that the second vote is a scum player, risky if the killers place their vote at the same time or close to it.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

It's a good point. Regardless, I don't see town winning this one. No one's going to follow a Kaschan train. Rashan maybe, but they're more likely to go after Telas next, and even Sorrit, before they go after Kaschan.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

Yeah town look like they have lost this.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

It could be a really ballsy test, if sorrits paying attention enough.

if someone quickly votes with sorrit without any justification then hes obviously scum, if sorrits quick enough he would get a really good lead on who the killers are

but its a think line to walk, a few minites too late and you lose
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 02:06 PM

 Lady Bliss, on 02 August 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:



Time for an altless game IMO. That will level the playing field.


I don't need altless to murder the shit out of Brujah!

But agreed.
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