[Anthras]

Agreed. I assume there won't be many killing units, seeing as the VC involves the market for all of us..

And don't forget, battles can fail. And I think assassinations can fail too, with the new LP system.

[Galayn Lord]

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 April 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Alright, looks like I've drawn a vote from GL. Sounds like I've got it for being vocal. Well I guess the game has to start somewhere, but attacking someone for being talkative seems counterproductive if you're looking to try and get discussion going and figure out people's loyalties .

Admittedly, I did kind of jump on Omtose when he was answering (or more accurately sidestepping ) the questions I asked him, which isn't exactly going to encourage people to talk to me. But I've been trying to poke a little bit within the confines of the bazaar discussion to start the ball rolling. Problem is, in faction games people get voted off once there is no mystery about which team you're on any more, so there's little incentive to be open on thread and risk revealing your alignment.

You've got it for only talking about the market and nothing else. Every post of you is about the bazaar somehow. That you talk so more than others just makes you come to mind more easily.
I could have attacked a low poster, sure, but I doubt I would have learned anything more about someone like Korabas or Merrid. People would just have agreed that low-posters are annoying.

My vote reached it's main goal though, as far as I'm concerned. It reminded people that there is more they can do than think about buying and selling stuff.

I think your points are valid, except about the low-posters. Going into this game, everyone was fairly aware that you were going to need ample time to participate in order for the game to work. So low-posting is kind of frowned upon more than usual, IMO. Either RL stuff came up at the last minute, or they are deliberately low-posting to avoid attention; whether that's due to their role or their behind-the-scenes production/upgrades/buying/selling, it probably isn't good.

Kara - 3
Alkend - 3
Okaros - 2
Merrid - 2
Korabas - 1

That seems pretty ridiculous for Day 1 of a game that everyone knew was going to be time-intensive and there was very little of the usual Day 1 BS that gets thrown around - a lot actually happened, shit was bought and sold and even stolen from the Bazaar. So I don't like seeing 5 out of 13 players basically not participating at all.

What I was saying is that there would have been no kind of discussion at all if I had voted for a low-poster. Most people would have agreed and some would have even voted along, but the general response of the player attacked would have been rather disappointing I think.
Also there were people slow in considering whether they'd really have enough time and considering it was a slow day I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt for now.

That said, I'm for a low-poster lynch if they don't up their activity during the next day.

[Tiamatha]

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not advocating not lynching at all. I just don't feel like we've engaged each other enough on this first day what with trying to figure the game out taking up most of peoples time. Plus this is a Tapper game and from past experience it's not necessarily a good idea to lynch day one as he suggested in one of his Path-Shaper posts in this game.

As for who not lynching will benefit, I think that both sides will probably be fairly evenly matched as much as he can with all of the abilites that he has out there. You have to realize that the battle and assasination roles have about a 50% shot at hitting their own team member too at this point so those people might not be as willing to go out an kill willy nilly.

Just responding here because this was the most recent post about this idea....from the last game, we saw that the Nepeth had almost exclusively battle-type abilities, which are just as effective as a typical "NK", depending on the target; obviously there's also at least one assassin. But the Nepeth are part of a 3-faction alliance against the House of Agreements, so it makes no sense at all to assume the Nepeth have a large number of players, especially if they are structured like they were last game. So 50% shot at hitting a "team member" assumes evenly balanced numbers across a 3-faction vs. 1-faction setup, plus "mystery" factions mentioned in the first post....debatable. Although it's definitely possible to hit your own teammate with a battle or assassination action, my guess is that people with those abilities will try to use them, since as the number of players diminishes, the odds of them hitting their own teammates will probably increase. Also, with the assassination contract out there, whoever made it must not be that worried about hitting a teammate - which means they could be on a "mystery" faction or just not overly concerned about the 3 vs. 1 setup. This is especially true if we decide not to lynch.

And on the subject of lynching, actually, I think the Korlat vote is an interesting one that I might be willing to go with. However, I think someone already said this, but people who are seriously low-posting are also prime targets. It doesn't matter if a) they have RL issues and can't post or they aren't posting because they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes and on the Bazaar. Option B seems dangerous to me. And although yes, we always have the possibility of hitting a teammate, even a single CF could give a lot of insight into other players' interactions.

So, I don't know, but I don't think we have a lot of time left, which would mean speed lynching someone, and that's not often a good idea, even when it's still Day 1. So I'm hesitant to lynch but there will definitely be benefits from reducing player numbers and seeing a CF. So, decision time is coming.

Regarding the 50% hitting of a teamate. You clearly didn't read the discussion earlier on thread. Just because you don't hit a Nepath per your example with your battle or assasination actions doesn't mean they are not on your team.

Though your comments regarding the "mystery" faction does have some merit.

[Atrahal]

Anthras, on 12 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Agreed. I assume there won't be many killing units, seeing as the VC involves the market for all of us..

And don't forget, battles can fail. And I think assassinations can fail too, with the new LP system.

Yeah, you are correct, the odds of battles and assassinations succeeding have been balanced more in this game than in the previous one, but there are always some low odds that people just get lucky with targets and those targets die. However, people might be more inclined to restrain from using those actions, especially if they cost denari, and like you said, buying titles from the market is the main VC listed in the OP, and that requires denari.

[Atrahal]

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 April 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Alright, looks like I've drawn a vote from GL. Sounds like I've got it for being vocal. Well I guess the game has to start somewhere, but attacking someone for being talkative seems counterproductive if you're looking to try and get discussion going and figure out people's loyalties .

Admittedly, I did kind of jump on Omtose when he was answering (or more accurately sidestepping ) the questions I asked him, which isn't exactly going to encourage people to talk to me. But I've been trying to poke a little bit within the confines of the bazaar discussion to start the ball rolling. Problem is, in faction games people get voted off once there is no mystery about which team you're on any more, so there's little incentive to be open on thread and risk revealing your alignment.

You've got it for only talking about the market and nothing else. Every post of you is about the bazaar somehow. That you talk so more than others just makes you come to mind more easily.
I could have attacked a low poster, sure, but I doubt I would have learned anything more about someone like Korabas or Merrid. People would just have agreed that low-posters are annoying.

My vote reached it's main goal though, as far as I'm concerned. It reminded people that there is more they can do than think about buying and selling stuff.

I think your points are valid, except about the low-posters. Going into this game, everyone was fairly aware that you were going to need ample time to participate in order for the game to work. So low-posting is kind of frowned upon more than usual, IMO. Either RL stuff came up at the last minute, or they are deliberately low-posting to avoid attention; whether that's due to their role or their behind-the-scenes production/upgrades/buying/selling, it probably isn't good.

Kara - 3
Alkend - 3
Okaros - 2
Merrid - 2
Korabas - 1

That seems pretty ridiculous for Day 1 of a game that everyone knew was going to be time-intensive and there was very little of the usual Day 1 BS that gets thrown around - a lot actually happened, shit was bought and sold and even stolen from the Bazaar. So I don't like seeing 5 out of 13 players basically not participating at all.

What I was saying is that there would have been no kind of discussion at all if I had voted for a low-poster. Most people would have agreed and some would have even voted along, but the general response of the player attacked would have been rather disappointing I think.
Also there were people slow in considering whether they'd really have enough time and considering it was a slow day I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt for now.

That said, I'm for a low-poster lynch if they don't up their activity during the next day.

Ah, ok. Yeah, true, with someone that's only posted once, there is not much to say about them, so why bother voting right now (in our current Day 1 context).

[Tiamatha]

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 April 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

I drew the same conclusion; that we shouldn't feel the same pressure. There isn't enough time to lynch effectively or watch a train build.

If we speed lynch, it's hard to analyze the train because people can claim they just voted because we needed a lynch. I think it's better to wait until tomorrow.

That said, I have no feeling in either direction for Korlat.

Ok. Fair response, and I agree about speed lynching (P-S, vote/time update?). But it would help to have some more people posting on thread, like the 5 I just mentioned. We need CFs just as badly as we do in any other game, except it costs us more to get them now, which is why lynching is optional and not imperative. But if we don't lynch and then see 2 or 3 people die from battle/assassination/whatever tonight, this new concept of waiting to lynch is going to disappear quickly, I think.

I'm pretty sure the night action deaths aren't going to be this dramatic. Tapper basically said this game could take a while and with only 13 players that means not many night deaths but I guess we need to wait and see.

[Korabas]

As promised. I am back. 5 pages to catch up on, gonna take me a sec.

[Atrahal]

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not advocating not lynching at all. I just don't feel like we've engaged each other enough on this first day what with trying to figure the game out taking up most of peoples time. Plus this is a Tapper game and from past experience it's not necessarily a good idea to lynch day one as he suggested in one of his Path-Shaper posts in this game.

As for who not lynching will benefit, I think that both sides will probably be fairly evenly matched as much as he can with all of the abilites that he has out there. You have to realize that the battle and assasination roles have about a 50% shot at hitting their own team member too at this point so those people might not be as willing to go out an kill willy nilly.

Just responding here because this was the most recent post about this idea....from the last game, we saw that the Nepeth had almost exclusively battle-type abilities, which are just as effective as a typical "NK", depending on the target; obviously there's also at least one assassin. But the Nepeth are part of a 3-faction alliance against the House of Agreements, so it makes no sense at all to assume the Nepeth have a large number of players, especially if they are structured like they were last game. So 50% shot at hitting a "team member" assumes evenly balanced numbers across a 3-faction vs. 1-faction setup, plus "mystery" factions mentioned in the first post....debatable. Although it's definitely possible to hit your own teammate with a battle or assassination action, my guess is that people with those abilities will try to use them, since as the number of players diminishes, the odds of them hitting their own teammates will probably increase. Also, with the assassination contract out there, whoever made it must not be that worried about hitting a teammate - which means they could be on a "mystery" faction or just not overly concerned about the 3 vs. 1 setup. This is especially true if we decide not to lynch.

And on the subject of lynching, actually, I think the Korlat vote is an interesting one that I might be willing to go with. However, I think someone already said this, but people who are seriously low-posting are also prime targets. It doesn't matter if a) they have RL issues and can't post or they aren't posting because they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes and on the Bazaar. Option B seems dangerous to me. And although yes, we always have the possibility of hitting a teammate, even a single CF could give a lot of insight into other players' interactions.

So, I don't know, but I don't think we have a lot of time left, which would mean speed lynching someone, and that's not often a good idea, even when it's still Day 1. So I'm hesitant to lynch but there will definitely be benefits from reducing player numbers and seeing a CF. So, decision time is coming.

Regarding the 50% hitting of a teamate. You clearly didn't read the discussion earlier on thread. Just because you don't hit a Nepath per your example with your battle or assasination actions doesn't mean they are not on your team.

Though your comments regarding the "mystery" faction does have some merit.

Regarding the underlined part, are you referring to the Nepeth/Beggars/Vultures being on one team and House of Agreements on the other? Because I did take that into account in my post... However like you agreed, the "mystery" faction(s?) throws those numbers into doubt, and it's possible the balance between the two "teams" is more related to role power and abilities than pure numbers. So, 50%, I don't think that number is a fair estimate at this point because we know next to nothing due to no CFs and half the players not even posting.

[Tiamatha]

Atrahal. Can't fault your logic again. Didn't consider the abilities being a balancing point to the game instead of shear numbers. Though I think the numbers will still be fairly close for the two sides. I don't think one side will be that much stronger than another that they have vastly few numbers.

[Korlat]

Given, as many others have said, the many problems that arise when players feel pressured to speed-lynch, I agree that it's probably not worth forcing anything today (Especially since I'm currently the only candidate ).

But I would caution people about reading too much into what happens tonight. Unlike in a saner game where there are only a few abilities (and therefore you can make reasonable assumptions about the rate of deaths per night from the CFs), here everyone has abilities and they're going to be constantly interfering with each other. Between that and the combat mechanics, it's quite feasible that the number of deaths will vary wildly from night to night.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 39 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Omtose, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Korlat ( Galayn Lord )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Omtose, Tiamatha

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 2 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Omtose, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Korlat ( Galayn Lord )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Omtose, Tiamatha

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Dusk on Night 1. 3 hours and 59 minutes remaining until Night resolution.

[Korabas]

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 12 April 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Stolen goods, has anyone else seen that yet? I wonder how often this will happen. It'd probably make people hesitant to put anything of high quality/value in the bazaar in case it gets taken away.

I doubt it will happen to often, otherwise the whole bazaar would stop working properly.

Spoken like someone who doesn't want people to be afraid to put stuff up for sale.

Thief!!!

While he seemed to be joking with his "Thief" I think Tiam makes a good point about Gaylord. Something to keep an eye on.

Then I saw this post:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not advocating not lynching at all. I just don't feel like we've engaged each other enough on this first day what with trying to figure the game out taking up most of peoples time. Plus this is a Tapper game and from past experience it's not necessarily a good idea to lynch day one as he suggested in one of his Path-Shaper posts in this game.

As for who not lynching will benefit, I think that both sides will probably be fairly evenly matched as much as he can with all of the abilites that he has out there. You have to realize that the battle and assasination roles have about a 50% shot at hitting their own team member too at this point so those people might not be as willing to go out an kill willy nilly.

Just responding here because this was the most recent post about this idea....from the last game, we saw that the Nepeth had almost exclusively battle-type abilities, which are just as effective as a typical "NK", depending on the target; obviously there's also at least one assassin. But the Nepeth are part of a 3-faction alliance against the House of Agreements, so it makes no sense at all to assume the Nepeth have a large number of players, especially if they are structured like they were last game. So 50% shot at hitting a "team member" assumes evenly balanced numbers across a 3-faction vs. 1-faction setup, plus "mystery" factions mentioned in the first post....debatable. Although it's definitely possible to hit your own teammate with a battle or assassination action, my guess is that people with those abilities will try to use them, since as the number of players diminishes, the odds of them hitting their own teammates will probably increase. Also, with the assassination contract out there, whoever made it must not be that worried about hitting a teammate - which means they could be on a "mystery" faction or just not overly concerned about the 3 vs. 1 setup. This is especially true if we decide not to lynch.

And on the subject of lynching, actually, I think the Korlat vote is an interesting one that I might be willing to go with. However, I think someone already said this, but people who are seriously low-posting are also prime targets. It doesn't matter if a) they have RL issues and can't post or they aren't posting because they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes and on the Bazaar. Option B seems dangerous to me. And although yes, we always have the possibility of hitting a teammate, even a single CF could give a lot of insight into other players' interactions.

So, I don't know, but I don't think we have a lot of time left, which would mean speed lynching someone, and that's not often a good idea, even when it's still Day 1. So I'm hesitant to lynch but there will definitely be benefits from reducing player numbers and seeing a CF. So, decision time is coming.

This post screams of Wishy washy, with the under-current seeming to be that he really does want a lynch. He attacks the low posters, ( of which I know I am one... but that couldn't be helped). And seems to be getting a feel for how receptive the thread would be to a low poster lynch. Going after the east targets while trying to maintain that he isn't sure he wants to lynch. Does he know who is on his team? How can he be so sure lynching a low poster won't hit a teammate? An alive non posting teamate is infinately better than a known dead one.

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 April 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Alright, looks like I've drawn a vote from GL. Sounds like I've got it for being vocal. Well I guess the game has to start somewhere, but attacking someone for being talkative seems counterproductive if you're looking to try and get discussion going and figure out people's loyalties .

Admittedly, I did kind of jump on Omtose when he was answering (or more accurately sidestepping ) the questions I asked him, which isn't exactly going to encourage people to talk to me. But I've been trying to poke a little bit within the confines of the bazaar discussion to start the ball rolling. Problem is, in faction games people get voted off once there is no mystery about which team you're on any more, so there's little incentive to be open on thread and risk revealing your alignment.

You've got it for only talking about the market and nothing else. Every post of you is about the bazaar somehow. That you talk so more than others just makes you come to mind more easily.
I could have attacked a low poster, sure, but I doubt I would have learned anything more about someone like Korabas or Merrid. People would just have agreed that low-posters are annoying.

My vote reached it's main goal though, as far as I'm concerned. It reminded people that there is more they can do than think about buying and selling stuff.

I think your points are valid, except about the low-posters. Going into this game, everyone was fairly aware that you were going to need ample time to participate in order for the game to work. So low-posting is kind of frowned upon more than usual, IMO. Either RL stuff came up at the last minute, or they are deliberately low-posting to avoid attention; whether that's due to their role or their behind-the-scenes production/upgrades/buying/selling, it probably isn't good.

Kara - 3
Alkend - 3
Okaros - 2
Merrid - 2
Korabas - 1

That seems pretty ridiculous for Day 1 of a game that everyone knew was going to be time-intensive and there was very little of the usual Day 1 BS that gets thrown around - a lot actually happened, shit was bought and sold and even stolen from the Bazaar. So I don't like seeing 5 out of 13 players basically not participating at all.

Again here. It's day 1. You are pushing for this low post lynch thing. How can you be so confident. I think you have more information than most people at this point in the game.

[Korabas]

All in all i am happy with the tone of the game so far. I am really glad that we seem to be exploring the markets and fleshing out the barter system, rather than a rush to lynch-fest. I agree with whoever said it, but there will probably be few NA kill actions, and the ones that are, will probably be few and far between. Tapper said this was a Beta game designed to test market systems. I think we'd be doing the game an injustice by not exploring that a bit.

[Korabas]

I'll be around for the next 6 or so hours to chat/discuss.

[Korlat]

Nice to hear from you, Korabas. Did you manage to get much marketeering in given how long you were absent for?

I like your analysis of Atrahal, although I do feel like I need to take it with a pinch of salt since you were in his target demographic until very recently .

I'll be around in fits and spurts for the next couple of hours, after which I should have time to play more.

[Atrahal]

Korabas, on 12 April 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 12 April 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Stolen goods, has anyone else seen that yet? I wonder how often this will happen. It'd probably make people hesitant to put anything of high quality/value in the bazaar in case it gets taken away.

I doubt it will happen to often, otherwise the whole bazaar would stop working properly.

Spoken like someone who doesn't want people to be afraid to put stuff up for sale.

Thief!!!

While he seemed to be joking with his "Thief" I think Tiam makes a good point about Gaylord. Something to keep an eye on.

Then I saw this post:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not advocating not lynching at all. I just don't feel like we've engaged each other enough on this first day what with trying to figure the game out taking up most of peoples time. Plus this is a Tapper game and from past experience it's not necessarily a good idea to lynch day one as he suggested in one of his Path-Shaper posts in this game.

As for who not lynching will benefit, I think that both sides will probably be fairly evenly matched as much as he can with all of the abilites that he has out there. You have to realize that the battle and assasination roles have about a 50% shot at hitting their own team member too at this point so those people might not be as willing to go out an kill willy nilly.

Just responding here because this was the most recent post about this idea....from the last game, we saw that the Nepeth had almost exclusively battle-type abilities, which are just as effective as a typical "NK", depending on the target; obviously there's also at least one assassin. But the Nepeth are part of a 3-faction alliance against the House of Agreements, so it makes no sense at all to assume the Nepeth have a large number of players, especially if they are structured like they were last game. So 50% shot at hitting a "team member" assumes evenly balanced numbers across a 3-faction vs. 1-faction setup, plus "mystery" factions mentioned in the first post....debatable. Although it's definitely possible to hit your own teammate with a battle or assassination action, my guess is that people with those abilities will try to use them, since as the number of players diminishes, the odds of them hitting their own teammates will probably increase. Also, with the assassination contract out there, whoever made it must not be that worried about hitting a teammate - which means they could be on a "mystery" faction or just not overly concerned about the 3 vs. 1 setup. This is especially true if we decide not to lynch.

And on the subject of lynching, actually, I think the Korlat vote is an interesting one that I might be willing to go with. However, I think someone already said this, but people who are seriously low-posting are also prime targets. It doesn't matter if a) they have RL issues and can't post or they aren't posting because they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes and on the Bazaar. Option B seems dangerous to me. And although yes, we always have the possibility of hitting a teammate, even a single CF could give a lot of insight into other players' interactions.

So, I don't know, but I don't think we have a lot of time left, which would mean speed lynching someone, and that's not often a good idea, even when it's still Day 1. So I'm hesitant to lynch but there will definitely be benefits from reducing player numbers and seeing a CF. So, decision time is coming.

This post screams of Wishy washy, with the under-current seeming to be that he really does want a lynch. He attacks the low posters, ( of which I know I am one... but that couldn't be helped). And seems to be getting a feel for how receptive the thread would be to a low poster lynch. Going after the east targets while trying to maintain that he isn't sure he wants to lynch. Does he know who is on his team? How can he be so sure lynching a low poster won't hit a teammate? An alive non posting teamate is infinately better than a known dead one.

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 12 April 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 April 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Alright, looks like I've drawn a vote from GL. Sounds like I've got it for being vocal. Well I guess the game has to start somewhere, but attacking someone for being talkative seems counterproductive if you're looking to try and get discussion going and figure out people's loyalties .

Admittedly, I did kind of jump on Omtose when he was answering (or more accurately sidestepping ) the questions I asked him, which isn't exactly going to encourage people to talk to me. But I've been trying to poke a little bit within the confines of the bazaar discussion to start the ball rolling. Problem is, in faction games people get voted off once there is no mystery about which team you're on any more, so there's little incentive to be open on thread and risk revealing your alignment.

You've got it for only talking about the market and nothing else. Every post of you is about the bazaar somehow. That you talk so more than others just makes you come to mind more easily.
I could have attacked a low poster, sure, but I doubt I would have learned anything more about someone like Korabas or Merrid. People would just have agreed that low-posters are annoying.

My vote reached it's main goal though, as far as I'm concerned. It reminded people that there is more they can do than think about buying and selling stuff.

I think your points are valid, except about the low-posters. Going into this game, everyone was fairly aware that you were going to need ample time to participate in order for the game to work. So low-posting is kind of frowned upon more than usual, IMO. Either RL stuff came up at the last minute, or they are deliberately low-posting to avoid attention; whether that's due to their role or their behind-the-scenes production/upgrades/buying/selling, it probably isn't good.

Kara - 3
Alkend - 3
Okaros - 2
Merrid - 2
Korabas - 1

That seems pretty ridiculous for Day 1 of a game that everyone knew was going to be time-intensive and there was very little of the usual Day 1 BS that gets thrown around - a lot actually happened, shit was bought and sold and even stolen from the Bazaar. So I don't like seeing 5 out of 13 players basically not participating at all.

Again here. It's day 1. You are pushing for this low post lynch thing. How can you be so confident. I think you have more information than most people at this point in the game.

Sorry buddy, I know you haven't been around at ALL, but you should take the time to read carefully. I actually never pushed for a low-poster lynch. Never suggested it at all. We were discussing whether or not we should even bother trying to lynch today, and I made the point that IF we did decide to speed lynch (which everyone, including myself, agree would probably be a bad idea), that the low-posters would have to be possible targets, because of the game setup. Your arguments are totally empty (uh, isn't lynching on day 1 usually a given? this game specifically changes that mechanic, hence the discussion). I didn't vote for anyone, I agreed that no lynch was probably best, and yet here you are, magically appearing after I call you out as the lowest poster in the game, accusing me of pushing lynches...hmm..... Suspicious much?

My main point was that you did not participate at all on Day 1 and that makes you an unknown element which is dangerous. And therefore the low-posters should be watched. And now we have a perfect, overly defensive response from the lowest guy on the list....thanks for the reaction. IGMEOY.

[Atrahal]

Korabas, on 12 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

All in all i am happy with the tone of the game so far. I am really glad that we seem to be exploring the markets and fleshing out the barter system, rather than a rush to lynch-fest. I agree with whoever said it, but there will probably be few NA kill actions, and the ones that are, will probably be few and far between. Tapper said this was a Beta game designed to test market systems. I think we'd be doing the game an injustice by not exploring that a bit.

Korabas, on 12 April 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'll be around for the next 6 or so hours to chat/discuss.

Nice summary (SCUM! ) of the day's events that you had no participation in! Congratulations! You've said nothing in these posts (but at least you're not the lowest poster anymore, amirite???), and you're around while Dusk and Night are happening. Can't say I'm impressed.

[Korabas]

oh no!! you got your eye on me!?!?

Look at my 1st post of the game. I said I wouldn't be on for 18 hours. Look when I showed up and started posting. about 18 hours later. So you can credit it to your "pressure" all you want. When in fact RL was kicking my ass. I now have time to post, and when I see someone passive agressively trying to go after low posters (whether I am one or not) I am going to call them on it because there is no easier lynch to go after. What concerns me is your willingness to throw them under the buss. If you had no knowledge of your team, I would think you would be much more hesitant to do this. Hence, I think you either know people on your team, or know you are on a very small team and can afford to do this. IGMEOY