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Bow before thy master, the warlord of irregulars.
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#361
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Posted 13 February 2003 - 11:26 AM
oh good, another comedian...
Bow before thy master, the warlord of irregulars.
Bow before thy master, the warlord of irregulars.
O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde; keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi.
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 05:18 PM
Is there a good GRRM fansite that i could check out??
Loveable hound of shadow - just don't pat me....grrrr
Loveable hound of shadow - just don't pat me....grrrr
#364 Guest_Lyanna Stark_*
Posted 23 March 2004 - 08:26 AM
Thats true, it IS a long time 
but considering he wrote a lot on the book using a 5 year gap at first and then started a new, well I guess it takes some time.
Plus he seems to have been goddamn busy touring the world as well. I think last year he must have met hoi-polloi everywhere.
I think there are some threads over at the ASOIAF EZboard where people are betting on when AFFC is going to come out. Think the majority has it somewhere in August 2004.
EDIT: Byt the way, have you read the spoiler chapter GRRM has on his homepage? An Arya chapter and if it is any indicator on how the rest of AFFC is going to be, then I am not worried anyway.
For the heart with no companion, For the soul without a king.
For the prima ballerina, Who cannot dance to anything
but considering he wrote a lot on the book using a 5 year gap at first and then started a new, well I guess it takes some time.Plus he seems to have been goddamn busy touring the world as well. I think last year he must have met hoi-polloi everywhere.
I think there are some threads over at the ASOIAF EZboard where people are betting on when AFFC is going to come out. Think the majority has it somewhere in August 2004.
EDIT: Byt the way, have you read the spoiler chapter GRRM has on his homepage? An Arya chapter and if it is any indicator on how the rest of AFFC is going to be, then I am not worried anyway.
For the heart with no companion, For the soul without a king.
For the prima ballerina, Who cannot dance to anything
#365 Guest_Pale Remnants_*
Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:29 AM
Don't hold your breath SL.
The Green Man has returned as the living face of the whole earth .
The Green Man has returned as the living face of the whole earth .
#366 Guest_The Shadowlord_*
Posted 12 January 2003 - 12:53 AM
weeee! Another Jaquen H'gar liker! HE RULES!
#367 Guest_Nexuslord_*
Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:43 AM
First of all, though it was some time ago that I read the Lord of the Rings, I don't remember any other dwarf, except for the dead ones in Moria, than Gimli in the book. Where is teh dwarfish culture in that? We see more Ents for gods sake. And those 'evil men' partaking on Sauron's side, I believe them to be the creation of his day's society, where muslim people were considered evil, and Tolkien incorporated that into his world.
As for the metaphors, the only one of those you metnioned that won't be found in SE's work is the evil-good struggle, which I thank the Gods. In SE's works, it is always clearly expressed that there are no real good and evil, only interpretations, and grief, and guilt, and emotions, shaping the persons we are (see the Crippled God, and see Paran).
For all sake, I like Tolkien's works, but I mean, he was the first real writer of epic fantasy, and perhaps the best in his genre (which is today considered to be how fantasy should be, since Tolkien became famous), but epic fantasy isn't the only genre.
While I like his work, I believe SE to be quite superior. But that's just my opinion.
As for the metaphors, the only one of those you metnioned that won't be found in SE's work is the evil-good struggle, which I thank the Gods. In SE's works, it is always clearly expressed that there are no real good and evil, only interpretations, and grief, and guilt, and emotions, shaping the persons we are (see the Crippled God, and see Paran).
For all sake, I like Tolkien's works, but I mean, he was the first real writer of epic fantasy, and perhaps the best in his genre (which is today considered to be how fantasy should be, since Tolkien became famous), but epic fantasy isn't the only genre.
While I like his work, I believe SE to be quite superior. But that's just my opinion.
#368 Guest_Bloodeye_*
Posted 18 February 2004 - 01:46 PM
Martin really seems to spend to much time touring instead of writing. Hopefully he won't end up like Robert Jordan (poor, poor man). At least Martin is actually good at what he does, although I think Erikson is better.
And, continuing the trend, I also think Goodkind is one of the worst writers with one of the biggest egos.
And, continuing the trend, I also think Goodkind is one of the worst writers with one of the biggest egos.
#369 Guest_LooseCannon_*
Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:06 AM
Well considering he is not a hobby writer but rather that it is his friggin' job maybe he should hop to it. I'm sure he gets impatient when his platter of bean burritos takes longer than 30 minutes to prepare so why shouldn't we?
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#370 Guest_Falco_*
Posted 23 January 2003 - 06:23 PM
Read his work to find out for yourself if it is good...I personally think that aSoIaF is crap and will never ever read it again, but a book called 'Fevre Dream', also by Martin is much, much better...
"I am a son who lives without hope of ever matching my father's stride"- L'oric
"I am a son who lives without hope of ever matching my father's stride"- L'oric
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 06:31 PM
I read the Daenarys one before... is he going to rotate a new one everytime he has to make an excuse?! Ooh goody, the whole book for free!
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#372 Guest_Lyanna Stark_*
Posted 23 March 2004 - 06:08 AM
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I had a look on a GRRM forum once, they were having a go at a new member as she had not read the books at least three times, I don't think I went back there
You do realize that a lot of us cross-post, don't you?
I've recognized at least 4-5 oldbies from the GRRM board with some 1-3k posts under their belt padding around here.
Still the forum is so big it's almost getting out of hand with less than a handful of moderators and something like 3000+ members, so I've seen some uncalled for nastiness towards newbies.
Although when the thread title goes "FOUND SOMETHING NEW: R+J=L!!!!" in ALL Caps, then it is slightly cringeworthy.
Regarding reading the books many times, well Martin uses so much ambiguity and carefully chosen words, that when you go back reading certain chapters, you can find several pieces and bits of foreshadowing that are extremely spot on. Which of course prompts everyone to try to read meanings into various ambiguous sentences about what has not yet come to pass. Great fun, but I can understand how it could be very frustrating for newbies.
For the heart with no companion, For the soul without a king.
For the prima ballerina, Who cannot dance to anything
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Posted 30 August 2002 - 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Aan`allein:
Almost every single character in this series is a mean vicious cruel bastard with only one token family of good guys.
well, you forgot about Tyrion, wich is my favourite...
but what to tell about Lord of the Rings then? the characters there are even more boring... (btw I cared fo Eddard, Jon, Arya and Tyrion... didn't give a fsck about Catelyn or Sansa...)
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#374 Guest_Pale Remnants_*
Posted 05 January 2004 - 12:50 PM
Latest from GRRM...oh, just piss off you fat lazy Bastard !
"YES, I'M STILL WORKING ON IT. HONEST.
Well, 2003 has come to an end... but sad to say, A FEAST FOR CROWS hasn't.
I'm getting closer, though, page by bloody page. Yesterday I finished another chapter, the forty-first (though I do move these chapters around as I write, so it probably won't be the forty-first when FEAST is finally published). It's a Davos chapter, his second in the volume.
I now have 911 manuscript pages in something very close to final draft form. I also have about eight additional chapters in fragmentary form, a couple of them fairly close to completion. But there's more that will be needed after that. I don't believe in saying, "Okay, I've got X number of pages, that's enough, I'll end the book." Each volume is a part of the overall story, but also needs its own beginning, middle, climax, and end to make for a satisfying read. As I have said here before, I am writing as fast as I can, but my first priority is to make the novel as good as it be.
The moment the book is done I will announce it here. The instant. The second. So if you visit this website, and this notice is still in place, it means I'm still writing. Various websites and bookshops have announced various publication dates, but until the book is actually finished and delivered, they are all pure guesswork.
No one really knows when A FEAST FOR CROWS will be finished, or when it will be published. Especially not me. When I do, know, I'll tell you here. For now, though, the only answer must remain, "As soon as possible."
Once again, I'd like to thank all my readers for their patience and support."
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He is the Green Man, Jack in the Green, the Old Man of the Woods, Green George and many other things to many other men...
"YES, I'M STILL WORKING ON IT. HONEST.
Well, 2003 has come to an end... but sad to say, A FEAST FOR CROWS hasn't.
I'm getting closer, though, page by bloody page. Yesterday I finished another chapter, the forty-first (though I do move these chapters around as I write, so it probably won't be the forty-first when FEAST is finally published). It's a Davos chapter, his second in the volume.
I now have 911 manuscript pages in something very close to final draft form. I also have about eight additional chapters in fragmentary form, a couple of them fairly close to completion. But there's more that will be needed after that. I don't believe in saying, "Okay, I've got X number of pages, that's enough, I'll end the book." Each volume is a part of the overall story, but also needs its own beginning, middle, climax, and end to make for a satisfying read. As I have said here before, I am writing as fast as I can, but my first priority is to make the novel as good as it be.
The moment the book is done I will announce it here. The instant. The second. So if you visit this website, and this notice is still in place, it means I'm still writing. Various websites and bookshops have announced various publication dates, but until the book is actually finished and delivered, they are all pure guesswork.
No one really knows when A FEAST FOR CROWS will be finished, or when it will be published. Especially not me. When I do, know, I'll tell you here. For now, though, the only answer must remain, "As soon as possible."
Once again, I'd like to thank all my readers for their patience and support."
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He is the Green Man, Jack in the Green, the Old Man of the Woods, Green George and many other things to many other men...
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Posted 12 February 2003 - 12:57 PM
it's odd that usually people that like Erikson also like Martin, and vice versa... it's completely diffrent - in Martin's books the POV is entirely nobles, and those highest in rank. While in Erikson's work there are mostly soldiers, people of low birdth, normal people, and the nobles are good for nothing.
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Hail, you Riders of Despair
Surrounders of the Throne
Deep in the Dragons Lair
With Blood you've signed The Oath
With DEGGIAL allied
Preparing for the worlds
Transform into the dark!
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Hail, you Riders of Despair
Surrounders of the Throne
Deep in the Dragons Lair
With Blood you've signed The Oath
With DEGGIAL allied
Preparing for the worlds
Transform into the dark!
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#376 Guest_Jon_Snow_*
Posted 26 January 2003 - 02:13 PM
Malarion, you hit the nail on the head. Martin and Erikson stand shoulder to shoulder in terms of offering the best of comtemporary fantasy.
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Posted 12 September 2002 - 01:24 AM
"stated somewhere in the book Jon's his"
Well, on Martin forums there was a lot of discussion about the parents of Jon. Most people believe that Ned is not the father because of several well hidden clues which combined form a different picture. Ned says he is the father, but he does it to protect Jon. For more information look at the song of Ice and Fire board at http://pub26.ezboard.com/basoiaf
Well, on Martin forums there was a lot of discussion about the parents of Jon. Most people believe that Ned is not the father because of several well hidden clues which combined form a different picture. Ned says he is the father, but he does it to protect Jon. For more information look at the song of Ice and Fire board at http://pub26.ezboard.com/basoiaf
#378
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 04:23 PM
Who is Jaquen H'ghar again?
@Gothos - Tyrion did indeed rock.
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@Gothos - Tyrion did indeed rock.
"Only in death shall you find your true salvation."
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#379 Guest_Arakasi_*
Posted 08 January 2004 - 02:25 AM
Interesting to read through this thread. I haven't been around the board in a while, but it seemed some people appreciated the defence I was putting up on the martin board. I realize now that was quite futile. Despite the fact that so many people here (including me) rate those two at the top of the list that does not hold true for the asoiaf board. So I just got everyone to agree that everyone had their own opinion and there was no objective truth about which was better. Although people tried to argue that too. *lol*
Anyways for me I'd rate Erikson slightly higher than Martin, although they are 1-2 in my list. The rest of my top 5 falls out of fantasy, including stuff like Donaldson's Gap series (not so much Covenant) and stuff like McCullough's Rome books and Dunnett's two series.
All fled, all done, so lift me on the pyre. The feast is over, the lamps expire.
Anyways for me I'd rate Erikson slightly higher than Martin, although they are 1-2 in my list. The rest of my top 5 falls out of fantasy, including stuff like Donaldson's Gap series (not so much Covenant) and stuff like McCullough's Rome books and Dunnett's two series.
All fled, all done, so lift me on the pyre. The feast is over, the lamps expire.
#380 Guest_Caldazar_*
Posted 20 February 2003 - 05:55 PM
Storm of Swords book 3 was published in 2000 so it's will be three years if he manages to get book four published this year.
