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#401 User is offline   Mort 

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 02:51 AM

I really have good memories of these books - the intrigue, general nastiness, and complexity...

So, imagine my shock when I discovered that I had somehow lost Boo 2 (I have all three book in trade p/B). More I can't remember the last time I tried to read them... I guess I was sort of disappointed by it and the wait. BY memory it was a little bit of a wait before Book Three, but nothing like this...

I am sorry, but so much else that is good comes along that I have given up thinking about GRRM - when his next book comes along I will re-read all four, but uintil then... he can sit with the other scum in the bilge water!!! Posted Image

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 04:35 PM

well, comparing those two would be blasphemy, b/c Martin is hardly fantasy... but I like both the most of all, followed closely by Herbert's Dune series...

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 03:51 PM

I completly agree Duiker, what would we all prefer wait ages and get CoT (i'm not slagging Jordon off he is one of my fav but CoT was a disapointment, not a huge but it could so easily have been better) or wait a bit longer and get another great novel!
Although I do love people who can churn good books out resonable quickly like Erikson or Hobb

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Posted 11 December 2002 - 05:36 PM

Arghhh!Heres the latest message from GRRMs website.

"I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT DONE YET.

I wish I could say it was. Nothing would please me more. It would please my editors as well, and it would please my readers most of all. But the plain truth is, I am still writing A FEAST FOR CROWS, the fourth volume in A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE.

Yes, I know Amazon has announced a pubdate for the book. Yes, I know, they even have a page count. I don't have a page count yet, but they do! Amazon.UK has done the same for the British edition. They both have covers up. The covers are indeed finished. The book that goes between them is not.

I am writing as fast as I can. The moment the book is done I will announce it here. The instant. The second. So if you visit my website, and this notice is still in place, it means I'm still writing.

Why so long? I wish I knew. It is a very long book, and a very complex one... and the work is going much more slowly than anyone would like, including me... but in the end, I can only hope that all my readers will agree that A FEAST FOR CROWS was worth the wait.

Until then, I beg your kind indulgence and thank you all for your patience. "

--George R.R. Martin

We have to very patient George.Very patient indeed.
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Posted 20 March 2003 - 02:22 PM

I just read Hedge Knight and I loved itPosted Image Also read New Spring by Jordan but didnt like that on every much:/

But Hedge Kngiht is really koolPosted Image I hop ehe writes more of those short stories.

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 06:17 AM

Nah I didn't mean Goodkind™. Martin is a damn good writer, I'm not arguing that point but I think he should focus on finishing his book more than flying around the US doing all these appearances. When it takes you longer to write a book then it takes for a blockbuster movie to get greenlit, filmed, go through post-production, premier, and then go to dvd you have to start questioning what the author is struggling with.

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Posted 20 March 2003 - 05:28 PM

Good to hearPosted Image Cant wait to read it.

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Posted 02 March 2003 - 06:43 PM

I don't know if anyone else on this list feels the same way I do, but while I think A Song of Ice and Fire is one of the best fantasy series out there, I for one am not chomping at the bit to read A Feast for Crows. I am willing to wait as long as it takes for GRRM to do a great job on the book and release it. If that means an extra year, so be it. I don't mind. His work is worth waiting for.

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Posted 20 February 2003 - 11:03 AM

he has smarted himself. he doesn't know where this situation is going to. And I bet he doesn't have an idea what to do with Daenerys.

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 05:52 PM

whoah!!! that japanese cover art looks wicked!!! where can i get that!!!

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 10:30 AM

It seems to me when any book project keeps getting delayed that it's a really bad sign of what's to come (witness the last few installments of WoT). My fear for GRRM (and SE, too) is that he (like RJ) has outwritten himself, making a plot so big and complex it can't have a satisfactory pace or resolution. Hopefully I'm wrong...

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:46 AM

Apologies.

( off to read the Novella and avoid Comic Relief...yes, i have donated.Back later )

Edit

Just finished "Arms of the Kraken".I think it really sets the scene for "the Feast Of Crows".The novella mainly covers the struggle for power, on the Iron islands. And introduces a couple of new Point-Of-Views in Asha,The Priest and The Crow.( The Krakens).

Definitley worth a read ,if you can get a copy.

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[This message was edited by Pale of the Green on 14 March 2003 at 04:42 PM.]
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Posted 17 March 2004 - 12:15 AM

Ok, I'm starting to get a little irritated here.

When the fcuk is book 4 coming out? Amazon say September now, although book 5 is dated before that. This is beginning to annoy me. The lazy, bearded one is going to have to get his finger out. I can't bloody remember what happened now, its been so long (and I'm not bloody going onto that forum of his - it bugs me).

Still, I'll read my copy of "The Healthy Dead" when it arrives to pass the time. Posted Image
Maybe I'll read my copy of "Blood Follows" before I do that. Posted Image
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Posted 14 February 2004 - 06:48 PM

Well, I'm young, so I think I will live to read the end.

I'm just glad he isn't rushing and releasing material he isn't satisfied with. But then again, I've only been waiting for about eight months. Yeah, I could wait another year or two. It would, however, be nice to see a few more short stories following Dunk and Egg in the meantime.

Go ahead and take a couple years off, Georgie boy!
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Posted 15 March 2003 - 03:01 PM

Well Drake, as fantastic as it is, I'm not so sure it beats Memories Of Ice...

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 06:19 AM

Martin has taken way too long to produce this book, I bought book 3 in h/b when it very first came out. It's been so long for the next book that even though I read all the books 4 times I can't remember what happens in them.

Authors taking too long really get on my wick. At the rate that Martin is going he's going to be dead of fatbastrdness long before he finishes the series!!

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Posted 21 March 2003 - 10:06 AM

Posted ImageI did not know that either, Very good.

PS I liked RJ's short as I am a big fan of Lan Mandragoran.

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Posted 30 January 2003 - 01:12 PM

The "Hedge Knight" comic , is now out and can be bought here ( based on GRRMs Legends story, a prequel to SOIAF )


http://www.roaringst...nsite/news.html

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Posted 16 July 2003 - 03:18 AM

Latest on that GRRM retrospective.From the man himself...

From GRRM:
July 15, 2003

HALF A MILLION WORDS OF GRRM

These days, I am best known for the epic fantasy novels of A Song of Ice and Fire, but my longtime readers will know that wrote a lot of other things before that. Decades worth of other things. The novels Fevre Dream, Dying of the Light, and The Armageddon Rag, for three. Several feature screenplays, and a bushel of scripts for The Twilight Zone, Beauty and the Beast, and other shows. My Haviland Tuf stories, and my work for Wild Cards. And lots and lots and lots of short stories, novelettes, and novellas.

While Bantam Books is bringing my old novels back into print one by one, most of my short fiction has been unavailable in recent years, except for those lucky enough to find one of my old collections on the dusty shelves of some used paperback exchange. That's all about to change, however.

Subterranean Press has just announced the forthcoming publication of GRRM: a RRetrospective, a mammoth new hardcover collection of more than thirty years of my short fiction, lovingly produced and lavishly illustrated. The book will make its debut at this year's worldcon in Toronto, where I'm the GOH.

The RRetrospective will be a huge book, spanning my entire career from my earliest work in comics fanzines right up to the present. It includes the good stuff from all of my old collections, so it could be considered a "best of" collection, but in fact it's more than that. It also contains material never before collected, and a few pieces never published previously in any form.

"Sandkings" is included, of course; my Hugo and Nebula winner. Also the Hugo winners "The Way of Cross and Dragon" and "A Song for Lya," as well as my Nebula winning "Portraits of His Children," my Bram Stoker winner "The Pear-Shaped Man," and my World Fantasy Award-winning novella "The Skin Trade." All my awards losers will be here as well (there are lot more of those), plus a lot of personal favorites never nominated for anything. The first of my Dunk & Egg novellas, "The Hedge Knight," is reprinted here for the first time since it appeared in Legends. Haviland Tuf is on board as well, and so is the Great and Powerful Turtle from Wild Cards.

Science fiction, horror, fantasy: the RRetrospective has them all. There's a section on my years in Hollywood, featuring my only original Twilight Zone teleplay and the first draft of my ill-fated Doorways pilot (quite different from the final shooting script) And for the real completists, we've even included a juvenalia section, with two stories that I wrote in college and one that I published in high school, in a comics fanzine. In addition, I've contributed thousands of words of original commentaries to preface each section of the collection. Gardner R. Dozois has contributed an introduction, and Leslie Kay Swigart a bibliography of my work.

Phil Parks is presently painting the cover for the Rretrospective, which promises to be a knockout. I'll post it here when it's done. The collection will also feature a full-page illustration for every story, drawn by wonderful lineup of artists: Janet Aulisio, Ron Brown, Tom Mandrake, Mark Nelson, Phil Parks, and Timothy Truman. Here are three of the interiors you'll see in GRRM, by Aulisio ("Unsound Variations"), Brown ("Meathouse Man"), and Nelson ("The Way of Cross and Dragon.") You'll get thirty more with the book.

Subterranean Press will release the book in three versions: a trade hardcover, a signed numbered edition in slipcase (limited to 400 copies), and a deluxe leatherbound lettered edition in sliptray (limited to 52 copies). The lettered state will retail for $300, the numbered for $125, and the trade hardcover for $40... a real bargain, since you'll be getting more than 1200 pages of fiction and commentary. Those who have other Subterranean titles on their shelves know the care they take with every book. The production will be first-rate.

For more details -- and to place your order -- go to Subterranean's website at http://www.subterraneanpress.com/ The lettered and numbered editions are not expected to last long, so if you really want one, go at once.

Happy reading

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Posted 28 January 2003 - 12:17 PM

Martinsson is an exellent author as well as erikson but i think his books are slightly over rated. They are a little bit to slow and one might say that the evil/semievil characters are the most intressting. But its god fantacy.

Jaime is the best...
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