[Cause]

The next few hours/days are already written. The extreme right maga crowd will go on the news and speak out of both sides of their mouths lambasting us all for this unamerican <deport everyone> and unacceptable <fuck the left> extremism {we need to crack down on civil unrest with the guard} that is pervading politics [gerrymander everything]. All while pretending butter won’t melt in their mouths.

Kirk didn’t deserve to be shot but his whole stick is rage baiting the leftist, liberal, woke college elite who he drips with disdain for.

This post has been edited by Cause: 10 September 2025 - 08:47 PM

[Tsundoku]

I wonder if the shooter was left or right wing?
I've read around the traps there's a few right wingers who aren't happy with Trump's restricting of freedoms in the name of protecting freedom ...
I mean, isn't that what they claim the 2nd amendment is for? Defending freedom against Govt overreach?

The trouble with almost anyone being able to get their hands on a high-powered weapon (especially those designed to kill lots of people in a short space of time) is that almost anyone can get their hands on a high-powered weapon (especially those designed to kill lots of people in a short space of time).

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 10 September 2025 - 08:50 PM

[Nicodimas]

Sad about Kirk./rip

The funniest thing about all this is 99% percent of the left thinks they know what the American right wing really looks like. I pray they never find out as this may just have them come out of the woodwork. Hint: They are much much worse than the left believe. I'm left of center compared to these peeps !

Good luck all.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 10 September 2025 - 08:54 PM

[Tsundoku]

Wondering if or when there's going to be a retaliation against a more liberal commentator? I do not see this getting any better any time soon.

Kirk didn't deserve to die, he at least was one of the more interesting and polite ones. But I can't say I'm overly surprised.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 10 September 2025 - 09:00 PM

[Macros]

Who would have thought a lack of regulation on guns would make it easy to shoot someone?

[Cause]

Nicodimas, on 10 September 2025 - 08:52 PM, said:

Sad about Kirk./rip

The funniest thing about all this is 99% percent of the left thinks they know what the American right wing really looks like. I pray they never find out as this may just have them come out of the woodwork. Hint: They are much much worse than the left believe. I'm left of center compared to these peeps !

Good luck all.

Don’t worry the wonderful things about guns and civil wars is they don’t separate the wheat from the chaff, just the lucky from the unlucky.

[Briar King]

Better keep an eye on Russia/China taking advantage in any fallout from this.

Killer still on the loose. Something like this was easy to see coming when so many lefties have been calling for arming up but to choose a guy who might not say something you agree with that let’s you say your piece in a true back and forth debate seems weird.

I ll be extremely surprised if this turns out to be a righty.

[Nicodimas]

Cause, on 10 September 2025 - 09:03 PM, said:

Nicodimas, on 10 September 2025 - 08:52 PM, said:

Sad about Kirk./rip

The funniest thing about all this is 99% percent of the left thinks they know what the American right wing really looks like. I pray they never find out as this may just have them come out of the woodwork. Hint: They are much much worse than the left believe. I'm left of center compared to these peeps !

Good luck all.

Don’t worry the wonderful things about guns and civil wars is they don’t separate the wheat from the chaff, just the lucky from the unlucky.

Want to cry watch this

https://x.com/Teslac...lley-university

People forget hate has very real consequences. This one really hurt some as they felt he was a everyday American trying to live life.

[Tiste Simeon]

Tsundoku, on 10 September 2025 - 08:58 PM, said:

Wondering if or when there's going to be a retaliation against a more liberal commentator? I do not see this getting any better any time soon.

Kirk didn't deserve to die, he at least was one of the more interesting and polite ones. But I can't say I'm overly surprised.

"interesting and polite" is certainly a choice. He was awful and I'm not going to sugar coat it. It is tricky sad that gun violence continues to read its ugly head, and indeed there was apparently another school shooting in Colorado today but no one will be talking about that.

Also it doesn't matter who's my done it, the government and the media will(and already are) claim that it's "the left" who have done this and use it as an excuse for hunting down political opposition.

Tin foil hat time, part of me wonders if Kirk is a martyr for the cause, because he's a useful person to have die in this way. If they are going to use it to crack down on opposition, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was his own side that ordered the hit.

I've no evidence at all for this of course but it's a thought I had.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Let's not sugarcoat any of Charlie Kirk. The only good fascist Nazi theocratic nationalist zealot is a...

(I also can't believe the outpouring of tears and sadness from Democrats. The sanewashing from every corner of the center and moderate left about what has been happening in this country sinks to new lows every day.)

This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: 10 September 2025 - 11:28 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

[Nicodimas]

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left. They have to realize now after multiple times against Trump and the murder of Charlie Kirk. They have often times said they support killing Musk! Murdering over thought. Ill never understand the hate over time that has been embraced this last decade.

I've been saying for years now the embrace from the left calling people they disagree with naming them Nazis is outright one of the worst shifts they have embraced. That's actual hate. Remember that. Hate in your heart if you think that.

Now we got people getting murdered for it.

This isn't some conspiracy theory. This is what actual radicilzation looks like..

Many on the right are VERY afraid of what occurs next.

[Briar King]

I’ve had many thoughts on it over the years. I think it was probably enemy influenced and most certainly enemy applauded.

I kinda hope this piece of shit is a righty.

[Nicodimas]

The hardest part about this if Trump wasn't president this guy would be alive. Now that he is dead..I'm calling it now 4 more years of Republicans no matter what Trump does. I'm out for a bit after this and very disappointed this person didn't think that through. The next guy up may be way way worse too. /Sigh


Again Reddit says this the way people thought of this guy. And everything bad he said well JK Rowling has basically said similar thoughts.

"This man never even used a bad word. All He did was go around debating politely. Always spoke out against violence"

[worry]

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 September 2025 - 12:02 AM, said:

Quote

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

Wow, if they're this mad about the death of one grown man, I can't imagine what they'd be saying and doing if the same thing happened to an actual kid. Or let's say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 kids in like maybe a school in a peaceful little town like Uvalde, TX. Or like 20 first graders in Newtown, CT. Imagine what they'd have to say to the survivors of such a shooting, like maybe Parkland, FL How they'd treat the kids who lived through it and were inspired to make change. --Just imagine the outpouring of emotion, earnest sympathy, and good will they would show the dead, the survivors, and the affected families in any such event like that. Imagine what Charlie Kirk himself would have said.

Unfortunately, time just began today so we don't have records of any of that, but just imagine.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Nicodimas, on 11 September 2025 - 01:07 AM, said:

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left.

Wow, the right has really embraced assassination culture!

[Tiste Simeon]

Hmm I notice Nico didn't get all pearl clutchy when those politicians were murdered in Minnesota by a MAGA nutter a couple of months ago, but now it's one of his side suddenly there's a violence problem?

[Macros]

I think its time to start racially profiling white men, they're clearly the most dangerous people in the US, get them deported ICE!

[Tsundoku]

worry, on 11 September 2025 - 02:00 AM, said:

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 September 2025 - 12:02 AM, said:

Quote

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

Wow, if they're this mad about the death of one grown man, I can't imagine what they'd be saying and doing if the same thing happened to an actual kid. Or let's say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 kids in like maybe a school in a peaceful little town like Uvalde, TX. Or like 20 first graders in Newtown, CT. Imagine what they'd have to say to the survivors of such a shooting, like maybe Parkland, FL How they'd treat the kids who lived through it and were inspired to make change. --Just imagine the outpouring of emotion, earnest sympathy, and good will they would show the dead, the survivors, and the affected families in any such event like that. Imagine what Charlie Kirk himself would have said.

Unfortunately, time just began today so we don't have records of any of that, but just imagine.

Sorry dude, out of rep today. I'll get you later.

Yeah, I can never understand even polite discourse when it comes to the fetishisation of 2A in the US. Earlier I said I liked his politeness and he was interesting, but I guess his death is quite ironic given his 2A comments. No death is acceptable when it comes to protecting your "right" to have high-powered weapons specifically designed to kill lots of people in a short space of time. I know this wasn't a mass casualty incident, but it very well could have been. Like Vegas a few years ago. The only difference is intent, and if it's all the same to you, I'd rather not rely on that.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Nicodimas, on 11 September 2025 - 01:07 AM, said:

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left. They have to realize now after multiple times against Trump and the murder of Charlie Kirk. They have often times said they support killing Musk! Murdering over thought. Ill never understand the hate over time that has been embraced this last decade.

Quote

Kirk expressed openly bigoted views and was an unabashed homophobe and Islamophobe. As recently as Tuesday of this week he tweeted: "Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America."

[...] During an appearance with Trump [...] he claimed that Democrats "stand for everything God hates", adding: "This is a Christian state. I'd like to see it stay that way."

[...] During the pandemic he [...] called vaccine requirements "medical apartheid". [...]

Kirk denied the climate crisis, supported fossil fuels and [...] labelled the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a "huge mistake"

Charlie Kirk: Trump ally and divisive provocateur who became US right's 'youth whisperer' | Charlie Kirk shooting | The Guardian

Influential figures on the right are already calling for my earlier prediction to come true:

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"The Left are terrorists," posted far-right political activist[, Trump confidante,] and conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer. Loomer added that Kirk's death only portends "more targeted" assassinations. "You could be next," she warned. "We must shut these lunatic leftists down. Once and for all. The Left is a national security threat," she said [...]

Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of right-wing media outlet the Federalist, focused blame on the Democratic Party, which he called "a domestic terrorist organization whose most fanatics will not hesitate to murder their political opponents."

"The Democrat Party must be classified as a domestic terror organization and their members & leaders treated accordingly," posted conservative political strategist Joey Mannarino.

'This Is War': Right Blames Left for Charlie Kirk Death | TIME

But wait, there's worse:

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Chaya Raichik, who runs the pro-Trump, anti-left account "Libs of TikTok," posted, "THIS IS WAR."

[...] Far-right influencer Andrew Tate, a self-described "misogynist," posted on X: "Civil war."

Kristan Hawkins, founder of anti-abortion group Students for Life of America, posted: "This is a new civil war."

"I'm ready for civil war," Brian Eastwood, another conservative influencer, posted. "You want a fight and you're going to get it."

"They've declared war," conservative political commentator David Freeman, who goes by the social media handle Gunther Eagleman, posted.

Fox News host Jesse Watters said, "Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate?"

[...] "Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire," Matt Forney, a right-wing journalist and influencer, posted [...] "It is time for a complete crackdown on the left. Every Democratic politician must be arrested [...]"

'This Is War': Right Blames Left for Charlie Kirk Death | TIME