[Vengeance]

A federal judge just put a temp ban in place. This is going to be challenged in court. In 1965 congress passed a law stating that people could not be banned from the us bases on race,sex,or religious belief. That law has been upheld and will most likely strike down trumps retarded 120 day ban.

[worry]

http://law.marquette...f-illegitimacy/

Marquette law school prof on the legalities of Trump's executive order, including SCOTUS precedent. It's not long, and well worth reading.

[EmperorMagus]

https://twitter.com/...564941587394561

This guy has a pretty good point. Although I do think that the message is not from Trump but rather Herr Bannon.

[worry]

No doubt about it it's Bannon: https://www.rawstory...curity-council/ (bolding is mine)

In another series of executive orders on Saturday, Pres. Donald Trump restructured the National Security Council (NSC) and created a position on it for senior aide and former Breitbart.com CEO Stephen K. Bannon. The Washington Post reported Saturday night that in addition to installing Bannon on the council, Trump ordered the Pentagon to come up with a strategy to defeat ISIS and conducted his first phone call with Russian Pres. Vladimir Putin and conducted calls with other heads of state.

The Post reported that Bannon has been given a regular seat on the National Security Council’s principals committee, which will include the nation’s highest ranking security officials, the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State.

Unlike previous presidential administrations, Trump’s Saturday memo specified that the director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs will only attend principals committee meetings that pertain to their specific “responsibilities and expertise.”

[worry]

The airport protests have been beautiful, a lot of great work from lawyers tonight (no lawyer jokes for the rest of January!).

Also, this is hopefully another success from tonight. Love to see people hit them where it hurts. #DeleteUber



The statement on the EO from the NY Taxi Workers Alliance was on the money:

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NYTWA STATEMENT ON MUSLIM BAN:

Professional drivers are over 20 times more likely to be murdered on the job than other workers. By sanctioning bigotry with his unconstitutional and inhumane executive order banning Muslim refugees from seven countries, the president is putting professional drivers in more danger than they have been in any time since 9/11 when hate crimes against immigrants skyrocketed.

Our 19,000-member-strong union stands firmly opposed to Donald Trump's Muslim ban. As an organization whose membership is largely Muslim, a workforce that's almost universally immigrant, and a working-class movement that is rooted in the defense of the oppressed, we say no to this inhumane and unconstitutional ban.

We know all too well that when government programs sanction outright Islamophobia, and the rhetoric of hate is spewed from the bully pulpit, hate crimes increase and drivers suffer gravely. Our Sikh and other non-Muslim brown and black members also suffer from anti-Muslim violence.

Today, drivers are joining the protest at JFK Airport in support of all those who are currently being detained at the airport because of Trump's unconstitutional executive order. Drivers stand in solidarity with refugees coming to America in search of peace and safety and with those who are simply trying to return to their homes here in America after traveling abroad. We stand in solidarity with all of our peace-loving neighbors against this inhumane, cruel, and unconstitutional act of pure bigotry.

[Gorefest]

How on earth can one man be allowed to cause this much uncontrolled mayhem so quickly? Don't the US have any safeguards in place against unconstitutional abuse of power? Is this going to be a continuous play of government versus civil rights lawyers? Scary stuff. I thought we'd at least get a few months before Trump would destroy the universe.

[MTS]

Let's not get hyperbolic here. It took a few days for a federal judge to knock back a flagrantly unconstitutional executive order, and it should be overturned. What I find most ironic is that the Party (and President) who screeched so loudly about protecting the Constitution are so unapologetic about violating it. I get it Republicans. It's like the Bible - only follow it when it gets you what you want. Allowing a democratically elected President to select a SC justice? 'No way! We have to take our country back!' Not letting Muslims into the country? 'It's all about protecting our borders guys, chill!'

In potentially good news, Trump didn't immediately put the kibosh on the refugee deal Obama negotiated with us when he spoke to our PM today. I mean, it's only 300 people, but at least they might get relief from the hellscape that is our refugee centres.

This post has been edited by MTS: 29 January 2017 - 09:28 AM

[QuickTidal]

Our prime minister, Trudeau, has said we will take refugeees booted or refused from the US. He also gave a strongly worded speech aimed at Trump and "fear" at the UN.

Have I mentioned yet how I dig our PM?

[EmperorMagus]

QuickTidal, on 29 January 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

Our prime minister, Trudeau, has said we will take refugeees booted or refused from the US. He also gave a strongly worded speech aimed at Trump and "fear" at the UN.

Have I mentioned yet how I dig our PM?

I go "splooosh" every time I see him talk.

I wish he would actually fulfill his promise of PR though.

[Cause]

EmperorMagus, on 29 January 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 29 January 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

Our prime minister, Trudeau, has said we will take refugeees booted or refused from the US. He also gave a strongly worded speech aimed at Trump and "fear" at the UN.

Have I mentioned yet how I dig our PM?

I go "splooosh" every time I see him talk.

I wish he would actually fulfill his promise of PR though.

PR?

[Macros]

Proportional representation.

[Cause]

Macros, on 29 January 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

Proportional representation.

Okay had to google the issue. Yeah this first past the post nonsense confused me. Hopefully it will be fixed. The electoral college of the united states also bizarre. Of course in my country we dont even vote for our president directly. It amazes me how poorly thought out these systems so often appear to be.

[amphibian]

MTS, on 29 January 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

Let's not get hyperbolic here. It took a few days for a federal judge to knock back a flagrantly unconstitutional executive order, and it should be overturned.

This is thousands of people all of a sudden incurring costs, lost time, stress, and being detained or deported. It's non hyperbolic awfulness.

[Tiste Simeon]

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[worry]

Any hints as to how Trudeau will react to Trump trying to negotiate NAFTA through bilateral agreements? (Presumably to give Mexico the shaft.)

[EmperorMagus]

death rattle, on 30 January 2017 - 12:21 AM, said:

Any hints as to how Trudeau will react to Trump trying to negotiate NAFTA through bilateral agreements? (Presumably to give Mexico the shaft.)

He hasn't said anything about it directly. His government's rhetoric has been all "protecting the interests of Canadians and Canadian businesses" so I assume he is ready to scapegoat Mexico.

[MTS]

amphibian, on 29 January 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

MTS, on 29 January 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

Let's not get hyperbolic here. It took a few days for a federal judge to knock back a flagrantly unconstitutional executive order, and it should be overturned.

This is thousands of people all of a sudden incurring costs, lost time, stress, and being detained or deported. It's non hyperbolic awfulness.

I wasn't saying it's not awful. I was reacting to Gorefest's exclamation that this was 'uncontrolled mayhem' and that Trump is '[destroying] the universe', the latter in particular.

This order was ill-thought out, won't do what it's ostensibly meant to and others are paying the price for it. It's also a troubling indication that this admin. is treating government like the campaign and just making policy up on the fly. Who needs the State Department, the Justice Department and the Office of Legal Counsel anyway?

[Vengeance]

I expected nothing else from someone who has absolutely no idea what government is about. Has never been in government in any kind capacity and promotes a neonazi conspiracy nut as his advisor. The question really become how long before we are talking about president pence. A fuck head who couldn't get reelected to his own state.

[LinearPhilosopher]

death rattle, on 30 January 2017 - 12:21 AM, said:

Any hints as to how Trudeau will react to Trump trying to negotiate NAFTA through bilateral agreements? (Presumably to give Mexico the shaft.)

smart money says nothing. Trudeaus not going to put canada in his crosshairs after all the ridiculousness of week 1.

If im not mistaken hes still touring the country trying to draw attention away from some conflict of itnerest stuff over the holidays.

Either way i canèt see canada stepping up and looking out for mexico.

[worry]

Shooting in Quebec City mosque, 5 dead. http://www.reuters.c...g-idUSKBN15E04S

I know that's not the USA, but can't be divorced from USA politics. The monsters are loose.