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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:17 PM

A remarkable 'defense' of Trump's belligerent Tweets: https://twitter.com/...903791017885697
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:47 PM

Also, the crazy Russian ties seem to finally be dropping, including the claim that Trump hired prostitutes to pee on the bed the Obamas slept in on a previous trip to Moscow.

Video of Jake Tapper's CNN segment: https://twitter.com/...948558615412736

Buzzfeed has the document: https://www.buzzfeed...-ties-to-russia
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:22 AM

 death rattle, on 10 January 2017 - 11:47 PM, said:

Also, the crazy Russian ties seem to finally be dropping, including the claim that Trump hired prostitutes to pee on the bed the Obamas slept in on a previous trip to Moscow.

Video of Jake Tapper's CNN segment: https://twitter.com/...948558615412736

Buzzfeed has the document: https://www.buzzfeed...-ties-to-russia


What do you think about the memo CNN got?
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:24 AM

The source -- a former MI6 operative w/ a good intelligence record, who's been vetted along with his sources -- seems pretty solid. I imagine he did a lot of wide-net fishing for info, but knows how to do his job in sifting through it anyway. I think there's fair middle ground between taking every word of the report as gospel and taking it all with a grain of salt.

And besides, a lot of it isn't just plausible, it's like a hair off from being a Given. Trump bribes foreign business/gov entities to get his way. Trump hires prostitutes. Trump has mafia ties. All of this stuff was plainly true even before today.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:02 AM

Obamas fair well speech was awesome. Going to miss him a lot! Was an adult in the office.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:04 AM

I love Obama. :D

We're following one of the classiest, most eloquent speakers in political history with a trashy, loud-mouth.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:26 AM

I started watching it, and it looks like it's about an hour long.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:52 AM

So, was the golden showers thing a bit of a bad leak? :D

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:30 AM

 Captain Needa, on 11 January 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

So, was the golden showers thing a bit of a bad leak? :D

http://www.techly.co...ower-in-russia/

All the lovely puns aside, it is simply a story that cannot be verified and therefore publishing it is questionable: the Guardian for example wrote they received this report weeks ago and decided not to publish it because of this reason.

However, it has circulated through the intelligence community, apparently was included in briefs to Obama and Trump (ouch), went through high levels of government and has also not been disproved (entirely).
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:04 PM

Trump press conference right now. Popcorn popped and hot, refreshing beverage at hand (Mt. Dew in honor of Mr. Trump). Let the hilarity ensue! Posted Image
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:11 PM

 Malankazooie, on 11 January 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Trump press conference right now. Popcorn popped and hot, refreshing beverage at hand (Mt. Dew in honor of Mr. Trump). Let the hilarity ensue! Posted Image


I honestly could careless about anything that he has to say. I am much more interested in what the senate confirmation hearings. He is a wanker who has trouble putting together sentences with more then 3 syllables.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:14 PM

 death rattle, on 11 January 2017 - 03:26 AM, said:

I started watching it, and it looks like it's about an hour long.


I watched it live last night it went on for 1:14 and then several minutes of hugging and waving. For a grand total of 1:17. I watched stream live on youtube.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

Wait what does "projecting our strength and not having to use it" mean?

Rexie is just using big words.

Barrasso is a piece of shit. Tillerson is a slimy piece of shit. Holy fuck these people make my skin crawl (literally).

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:24 PM

Holy fuck which fucking treaty in the word bans the purchase of Nukes. So he basically wants to bully Iran into giving up its nuclear capabilities and then forcing us to buy anything we want. Fuck that.

What the hell does "denies them the capability to go ahead with building a bomb but doesn't deny the capability to get 1 mean?"

This meeting is a farce.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:25 PM

 EmperorMagus, on 11 January 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

Wait what does "projecting our strength and not having to use it" mean?

Rexie is just using big words.

Barrasso is a piece of shit. Tillerson is a slimy piece of shit. Holy fuck these people make my skin crawl (literally).



Yep.

Also saying that because the Kremlin said that they didn't have any compromising intel on Trump totally means that we should believe them. WTF! That is like asking a rapist if he raped someone. Of course he is going to say no or that it was consensual.

Also there is 57% of America that want to see his Tax returns. You know the Majority of the country that didn't vote for him. The press is right to keep pressuring him to show his returns and what ties he has. Until he does I just assume that he owes billions directly to Putin.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:29 PM

Portman is a Republican but at least he is asking actual, important questions.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:40 PM

 death rattle, on 10 January 2017 - 11:47 PM, said:

Also, the crazy Russian ties seem to finally be dropping, including the claim that Trump hired prostitutes to pee on the bed the Obamas slept in on a previous trip to Moscow.

Video of Jake Tapper's CNN segment: https://twitter.com/...948558615412736

Buzzfeed has the document: https://www.buzzfeed...-ties-to-russia


The funny thing about the buzzfeed story is Trump is singularly ill-positioned to defend against it.

He had denied all accusations of anything so reflexively, that his response to the report is exactly what you would expect, true or false.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:38 PM

 Cheesewiz, on 11 January 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Ivanka will be 1st female Pres and the 3rd Adams/Bush/Trump. His lawyer is going on awhile now but she made it a point that she is going to D.C. with no ties to TO.

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I don't think Ivanka wants to be president. If Kushner can enrich himself to a sufficient point, she'll be a de facto head of state by having that much money and connections without having the onerous workload.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:34 AM

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 11:03 AM

The more he talks the more worried I become. I dont believe he will destroy America. At the end of the day I believe the constition, the public, congress, having the worlds alrgest army means that after one or even two terms of Trump America wont be too different than it is now but the way he talks and the things he focuses on are just amazing. He lashes out at his countires own intelligence agencies, he lashes out at the media, he denies facts.

I think its a sad indictment on the wierd divide in american politics of republican vs democrat that allowed him to be elected.
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