[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Let's not sugarcoat any of Charlie Kirk. The only good fascist Nazi theocratic nationalist zealot is a...

(I also can't believe the outpouring of tears and sadness from Democrats. The sanewashing from every corner of the center and moderate left about what has been happening in this country sinks to new lows every day.)

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[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

[Nicodimas]

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left. They have to realize now after multiple times against Trump and the murder of Charlie Kirk. They have often times said they support killing Musk! Murdering over thought. Ill never understand the hate over time that has been embraced this last decade.

I've been saying for years now the embrace from the left calling people they disagree with naming them Nazis is outright one of the worst shifts they have embraced. That's actual hate. Remember that. Hate in your heart if you think that.

Now we got people getting murdered for it.

This isn't some conspiracy theory. This is what actual radicilzation looks like..

Many on the right are VERY afraid of what occurs next.

[Briar King]

I’ve had many thoughts on it over the years. I think it was probably enemy influenced and most certainly enemy applauded.

I kinda hope this piece of shit is a righty.

[Nicodimas]

The hardest part about this if Trump wasn't president this guy would be alive. Now that he is dead..I'm calling it now 4 more years of Republicans no matter what Trump does. I'm out for a bit after this and very disappointed this person didn't think that through. The next guy up may be way way worse too. /Sigh


Again Reddit says this the way people thought of this guy. And everything bad he said well JK Rowling has basically said similar thoughts.

"This man never even used a bad word. All He did was go around debating politely. Always spoke out against violence"

[worry]

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 September 2025 - 12:02 AM, said:

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MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

Wow, if they're this mad about the death of one grown man, I can't imagine what they'd be saying and doing if the same thing happened to an actual kid. Or let's say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 kids in like maybe a school in a peaceful little town like Uvalde, TX. Or like 20 first graders in Newtown, CT. Imagine what they'd have to say to the survivors of such a shooting, like maybe Parkland, FL How they'd treat the kids who lived through it and were inspired to make change. --Just imagine the outpouring of emotion, earnest sympathy, and good will they would show the dead, the survivors, and the affected families in any such event like that. Imagine what Charlie Kirk himself would have said.

Unfortunately, time just began today so we don't have records of any of that, but just imagine.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

 Nicodimas, on 11 September 2025 - 01:07 AM, said:

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left.

Wow, the right has really embraced assassination culture!

[Tiste Simeon]

Hmm I notice Nico didn't get all pearl clutchy when those politicians were murdered in Minnesota by a MAGA nutter a couple of months ago, but now it's one of his side suddenly there's a violence problem?

[Macros]

I think its time to start racially profiling white men, they're clearly the most dangerous people in the US, get them deported ICE!

[Tsundoku]

worry, on 11 September 2025 - 02:00 AM, said:

Azath Vitr (D, on 11 September 2025 - 12:02 AM, said:

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MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems

A Republican congresswoman yelled and cursed at her Democratic colleagues on Thursday afternoon at the end of a silent prayer for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [...] shouting "Y'all caused this!" at her colleagues [...] "You f---ing own this!" [... her shouting] drowned out Speaker Johnson fecklessly banging his gavel and saying, "The House will be in order! The House will be in order!"

[... She tweeted] "Charlie was shot at an event where he was speaking out against trans shooting violence." [And later tweeted]: "EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.

You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate."

[...] Her fealty to the president earned her a parody on a South Park episode last month, in which her character was introduced after character Randy Marsh asked, "What's a sycophant?"

MAGA Reps End Prayer for Charlie Kirk by Swearing at Dems - The Daily Beast

Wow, if they're this mad about the death of one grown man, I can't imagine what they'd be saying and doing if the same thing happened to an actual kid. Or let's say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 kids in like maybe a school in a peaceful little town like Uvalde, TX. Or like 20 first graders in Newtown, CT. Imagine what they'd have to say to the survivors of such a shooting, like maybe Parkland, FL How they'd treat the kids who lived through it and were inspired to make change. --Just imagine the outpouring of emotion, earnest sympathy, and good will they would show the dead, the survivors, and the affected families in any such event like that. Imagine what Charlie Kirk himself would have said.

Unfortunately, time just began today so we don't have records of any of that, but just imagine.

Sorry dude, out of rep today. I'll get you later.

Yeah, I can never understand even polite discourse when it comes to the fetishisation of 2A in the US. Earlier I said I liked his politeness and he was interesting, but I guess his death is quite ironic given his 2A comments. No death is acceptable when it comes to protecting your "right" to have high-powered weapons specifically designed to kill lots of people in a short space of time. I know this wasn't a mass casualty incident, but it very well could have been. Like Vegas a few years ago. The only difference is intent, and if it's all the same to you, I'd rather not rely on that.

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Cause, on 10 September 2025 - 08:46 PM, said:

Kirk didn’t deserve to be shot but his whole stick is rage baiting the leftist, liberal, woke college elite who he drips with disdain for.

He didn't deserve to die.

It is however interesting to watch the pearls get clutched when he made a literal career out of being divisive, ghoulish, professional troll who said things like a few deaths is worth the price of having the 2nd amendment, that if his daughter was one day R**** he would make her bring the baby to term, that women should obey their husbands and submit, and saying that the children of Gaza brought the reign of fire of Israel onto themselves...ect. Like he made money off pumping constant negativity and divisiveness into the ether.

The US is filled with a lot of old people...old people have nothing much to lose a lot of the time...old people who (like everyone else) are struggling to keep their heads above economic and social water due to the current administrations policies...and the US is awash in guns...

The math maths itself.

Tsundoku, on 10 September 2025 - 08:50 PM, said:

I wonder if the shooter was left or right wing?
I've read around the traps there's a few right wingers who aren't happy with Trump's restricting of freedoms in the name of protecting freedom ...

Most times it's a Republican/Right Winger...FFS Laura Loomer posted like days ago that Charlie Kirk was a betrayer of Trump....

It could be anyone (though I tink it's widely agreed that a single shot murk from 200 yards away smacks of Military veteran at the very least), but it should not surprise anyone if it turns out to be a Trumper or Right Winger who has lost faith in their cult.

Nicodimas, on 10 September 2025 - 08:52 PM, said:

Hint: They are much much worse than the left believe. I'm left of center compared to these peeps !

Good luck all.

Oh look, Nico showed up to voice a thinly-veiled threat. Never change dude.

Briar King, on 10 September 2025 - 09:23 PM, said:

Better keep an eye on Russia/China taking advantage in any fallout from this.

Bro, China has no reasons to take advantage of anything. They are the world leader now, the US isn't. They can sit back and watch your country implode into fascism and do nothing.

Briar King, on 10 September 2025 - 09:23 PM, said:

Killer still on the loose. Something like this was easy to see coming when so many lefties have been calling for arming up but to choose a guy who might not say something you agree with that let’s you say your piece in a true back and forth debate seems weird.

I ll be extremely surprised if this turns out to be a righty.

Historically it's been right wingers doing shit like this...so I fail to see why you'd think it would be a Left Winger.

Tiste Simeon, on 10 September 2025 - 10:48 PM, said:

"interesting and polite" is certainly a choice. He was awful and I'm not going to sugar coat it. It is tricky sad that gun violence continues to read its ugly head, and indeed there was apparently another school shooting in Colorado today but no one will be talking about that.

Also it doesn't matter who's my done it, the government and the media will(and already are) claim that it's "the left" who have done this and use it as an excuse for hunting down political opposition.

And if it turns out it was a disgruntled Trumper or a Right Winger who did it, they will either claim it's a false flag or they will treat it like school shootings and move past it quickly to avoid talking about gun control.

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 10 September 2025 - 11:22 PM, said:

Let's not sugarcoat any of Charlie Kirk. The only good fascist Nazi theocratic nationalist zealot is a...

(I also can't believe the outpouring of tears and sadness from Democrats. The sanewashing from every corner of the center and moderate left about what has been happening in this country sinks to new lows every day.)

I could pull up at least 10 quotes pretty easily, things he said that are straight terrible and evil.....but the most relevant would be:

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"I can't stand the word empathy, actually, I think empathy is a made-up, new-age term that does a lot of damage." ~ Charlie Kirk

Make no mistake, if you or I were the ones laying dead, or one of the umpteen kids who die in school shootings every week in the States (including yesterday afternoon in Colorado FFS!) and Kirk was still here, he would be either making a joke about it, or telling ppl that it was a small price to pay to have the 2nd amendment...

People who saw the close up video of him being shot were horrified, and the best comment I saw was "Okay, now picture the kids at Sandy Hook, or any of the other school shootings being taken out as gruesomely in the last 30 years in the USA" That since they didn't see video they can disconnect it to clutch their guns like toys...but SEEING it changes the view doesn't it?

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Nicodimas, on 11 September 2025 - 01:07 AM, said:

Assassination culture has now officially been embraced by the left. They have to realize now after multiple times against Trump and the murder of Charlie Kirk. They have often times said they support killing Musk! Murdering over thought. Ill never understand the hate over time that has been embraced this last decade.

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Kirk expressed openly bigoted views and was an unabashed homophobe and Islamophobe. As recently as Tuesday of this week he tweeted: "Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America."

[...] During an appearance with Trump [...] he claimed that Democrats "stand for everything God hates", adding: "This is a Christian state. I'd like to see it stay that way."

[...] During the pandemic he [...] called vaccine requirements "medical apartheid". [...]

Kirk denied the climate crisis, supported fossil fuels and [...] labelled the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a "huge mistake"

Charlie Kirk: Trump ally and divisive provocateur who became US right's 'youth whisperer' | Charlie Kirk shooting | The Guardian

Influential figures on the right are already calling for my earlier prediction to come true:

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"The Left are terrorists," posted far-right political activist[, Trump confidante,] and conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer. Loomer added that Kirk's death only portends "more targeted" assassinations. "You could be next," she warned. "We must shut these lunatic leftists down. Once and for all. The Left is a national security threat," she said [...]

Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of right-wing media outlet the Federalist, focused blame on the Democratic Party, which he called "a domestic terrorist organization whose most fanatics will not hesitate to murder their political opponents."

"The Democrat Party must be classified as a domestic terror organization and their members & leaders treated accordingly," posted conservative political strategist Joey Mannarino.

'This Is War': Right Blames Left for Charlie Kirk Death | TIME

But wait, there's worse:

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Chaya Raichik, who runs the pro-Trump, anti-left account "Libs of TikTok," posted, "THIS IS WAR."

[...] Far-right influencer Andrew Tate, a self-described "misogynist," posted on X: "Civil war."

Kristan Hawkins, founder of anti-abortion group Students for Life of America, posted: "This is a new civil war."

"I'm ready for civil war," Brian Eastwood, another conservative influencer, posted. "You want a fight and you're going to get it."

"They've declared war," conservative political commentator David Freeman, who goes by the social media handle Gunther Eagleman, posted.

Fox News host Jesse Watters said, "Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate?"

[...] "Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire," Matt Forney, a right-wing journalist and influencer, posted [...] "It is time for a complete crackdown on the left. Every Democratic politician must be arrested [...]"

'This Is War': Right Blames Left for Charlie Kirk Death | TIME

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Dave Portnoy (yesterday): "Absolutely disgusting and disturbing video from Charlie Kirk shooting today. Hoping for the best for him and his family. Anybody who is happy about this is a disgusting human."

Dave Portnoy (June 2025; on Greta Thunberg attempting to bring aid to Gaza): "I hope they hit a fucking, like, massive missile on her boat. Knock that boat down. Greta or whatever her name is."

Thoughts and Prayers for me, but not for thee...apparently.

[amphibian]

Murder is awful. Kirk was awful. We are probably at a point of Balkanization level spark plug violence that's been primarily driven by far right wing people who want the targets of violence only to be left wing people and/or brown/black people.

I am not surprised some right wing people are reacting to the sudden loss of impunity for saying and doing the awful things they do. I am also not surprised some right wing people are immediately trying to use this as a cover for violent oppression and occupation. Everything is content grist for their mill of exerting what is an unpopular government that's sliding further into a faux dictatorship with a figurehead who's happy to pocket money while others do unconstitutional and dangerous violence in his name.

[HoosierDaddy]

"It's probably a lefty because they've talked about getting armed as a result to perceived threats to their liberties."

Maybe? Maybe it doesn't matter what the political bent of the person is? Guns don't discriminate, unlike human beings. Which is why traditionally the left wants to get rid of them.


"Charlie Kirk just debated with politeness and was actually face to face with people. I can't believe this happened to him!"

Shit-stirrer gets his shit stirred in response! More breaking news at 11!

It's sad. It shouldn't happen.

But it continuously does. If only we could find a way to reduce this gun violence....

Maybe open up both eyes and realize violence can come for you just as easy as it comes to others and right now there's nothing stopping it but chance. AND YOUR GUNS WON'T HELP YOU EITHER.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 11 September 2025 - 12:15 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

HoosierDaddy, on 11 September 2025 - 12:14 PM, said:

Maybe open up both eyes and realize violence can come for you just as easy as it comes to others and right now there's nothing stopping it but chance. AND YOUR GUNS WON'T HELP YOU EITHER.

Yes, unfortunately even the fastest draw and the most precise marksperson won't realistically be able to parry a bullet with bullets. But what will help people? Body armor. Full body armor is best. Bullet-proof space suits for all---space suits so they're also good against pollution and airborne diseases.

But perhaps then people will move on to explosives and rocket launchers... in which case we'll all need very large heavily armored mechs to stroll around. Or more realistically: virtual reality. From our heavily armored bunkers.

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 11 September 2025 - 12:49 PM

[worry]

It sucks that any of us even know who Charlie Kirk is.

Is it worth noting that near simultaneous to when Kirk got shot in the middle of his racist, transphobic remarks defending mass shootings, there were also students being shot at a high school in Colorado?

Is it worth noting that it was just a couple days ago that our child molester president Donald J. Trump's drawing (of an adolescent girl) and poem reminiscing on that child molestation with his long-time friend and co-child molester Jeffrey Epstein was made public by Epstein's estate? After months of him denying it existed. And that it was dismissed by every single person in the pro-child molestation Republican Party who is up in arms today about the mean words people say about them?

[HoosierDaddy]

worry, on 11 September 2025 - 01:10 PM, said:

It sucks that any of us even know who Charlie Kirk is.

Is it worth noting that near simultaneous to when Kirk got shot in the middle of his racist, transphobic remarks defending mass shootings, there were also students being shot at a high school in Colorado?

Is it worth noting that it was just a couple days ago that our child molester president Donald J. Trump's drawing (of an adolescent girl) and poem reminiscing on that child molestation with his long-time friend and co-child molester Jeffrey Epstein was made public by Epstein's estate? After months of him denying it existed. And that it was dismissed by every single person in the pro-child molestation Republican Party who is up in arms today about the mean words people say about them?

My social media is ablaze with fellation of Charlie Kirk and it just provides a great reminder - Social Media is made up of people. People of whom half are more ignorant and less informed than average.

And the average person is terribly uninformed about things that are not in front of their face, in their backyard, or being screamed about by their media of choice.... which is often social media.

Recursive ignorance.

[QuickTidal]

Let's not forget that above and beyond the uneducated on social media that twitter is also like half bots...which are literally designed to foster and fan the flames of such division in such instances for the further de-stabilization of the USA.

[amphibian]

 Azath Vitr (D, on 11 September 2025 - 12:48 PM, said:

 HoosierDaddy, on 11 September 2025 - 12:14 PM, said:

Maybe open up both eyes and realize violence can come for you just as easy as it comes to others and right now there's nothing stopping it but chance. AND YOUR GUNS WON'T HELP YOU EITHER.

Yes, unfortunately even the fastest draw and the most precise marksperson won't realistically be able to parry a bullet with bullets. But what will help people? Body armor. Full body armor is best. Bullet-proof space suits for all---space suits so they're also good against pollution and airborne diseases.

But perhaps then people will move on to explosives and rocket launchers... in which case we'll all need very large heavily armored mechs to stroll around. Or more realistically: virtual reality. From our heavily armored bunkers.

Oddly enough, this satire does go to the logical conclusion of the "stockpile infinite firearms" crowd - to hole up in bunkers and have food delivered in by people who take the risks of being in a society that involves that many firearms and people being horrible to each other.

The answers clearly lie in getting rid of most of the guns. So many better things flow downstream from that and we've seen it work in Australia etc. Until we develop that mass political will, the deaths will continue in a grisly march towards ruin.