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#13501 User is offline   QuickTidal 

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Posted 09 March 2023 - 02:00 PM

McConnell fell and is in hospital.

There are very few people I lack sympathy for in this world, but he is one.

I hope it hurt, the evil motherfucker.
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Posted 09 March 2023 - 07:27 PM

McConell is a piece of shit but at least he and the senate have taken a stance against house republicans loonies of late. The republican house and senate currently seem very far apart. I hope he steps down (wishful thinking), I also hope his eventual replacement can keep mcarthy and Greene and boebert etc in check
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Posted 11 March 2023 - 07:12 AM

Thays5hkw fucked up Yankee doodle land is.
That piese if shit is keeping the fuck wits in check
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Posted 11 March 2023 - 07:44 AM

View PostMacros, on 11 March 2023 - 07:12 AM, said:

Thays5hkw fucked up Yankee doodle land is.
That piese if shit is keeping the fuck wits in check


Mac it ain't 8am yet how long were you drinking
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Posted 11 March 2023 - 01:24 PM

He never stopped.
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Posted 12 March 2023 - 09:29 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 11 March 2023 - 07:44 AM, said:

View PostMacros, on 11 March 2023 - 07:12 AM, said:

Thays5hkw fucked up Yankee doodle land is.
That piese if shit is keeping the fuck wits in check


Mac it ain't 8am yet how long were you drinking

Holidays, 2 hours ahead.
So how this make it worse
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Posted 13 March 2023 - 05:31 AM

Government decided to backstop the 93% of uninsured deposits on the recent bank collapses./bailouts

So the system can’t handle 5% interest… /yikes

So more inflation is in the books..if the political party in charge can’t raise the interest above the actual inflation rates the next decades will be 10% + 1% /year.

How long can a modern family get bled like that ? Tough choices as a decade+ of ZIRP is going to be hell of a hangover either way.

No easy way out. Prepare accordingly as this will affect you day to day.

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Posted 13 March 2023 - 05:50 AM

Btw a simpler system would say it’s fraud. Again.

However we will bail out people and paper it over. Again.

It’s disappointing. Why can’t a party (either one) have balls and you know throw these guys in jail.
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Posted 13 March 2023 - 06:34 AM

View PostMacros, on 12 March 2023 - 09:29 PM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 11 March 2023 - 07:44 AM, said:

View PostMacros, on 11 March 2023 - 07:12 AM, said:

Thays5hkw fucked up Yankee doodle land is.
That piese if shit is keeping the fuck wits in check


Mac it ain't 8am yet how long were you drinking

Holidays, 2 hours ahead.
So how this make it worse


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Posted 15 March 2023 - 07:06 PM

https://www.salon.co...-what-it-means/

You know what always amuses me about these American Conservative idiots? They contort themselves into a tonne of different shapes to try to NOT define WOKE as simply "giving a shit about other people"....which is broadly the right answer, but people like this clown KNOW they can't say that out loud without getting raked over the coals for it...so she says anything but.....and even funnier is she gets like halfway to ACTUALLY defining it at the end, and then bails out, drops back to "hard to define" and shoves in more buzzword bullshit to deflect. It would be funny, if it weren't so sad.

Like she says: “It is sort of the understanding that we need to totally reimagine and redo society in order to.... create hierarchies of oppression. Sorry I, it’s hard to explain in a 15-second sound bite.”

The bolded bit is wrong, but you could say that Woke is “It is sort of the understanding that we need to totally reimagine and redo society in order to care about other cultures, races, and preferences”...like she's almost there, and then just buckles. Talk about being right up against the point and missing it (intentionally in this case).

They know that they can't define it without admitting they just want to shit on minorities. It's bafflingly obvious.
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Posted 15 March 2023 - 08:00 PM

It's just a change in the dogwhistle. It's still a dogwhistle, just sounds different. They've been doing it for decades. And they've been doing it that long because it works. Most Americans couldn't tell you the difference between a communist, a socialist, and a fascist and conflate them all. It's why "progressive", "liberal", "leftist", "radical left" all equal some centrist Democrat that isn't even pro national healthcare, just reform; not redistributing the means of production.

"Woke" = "change", and that "change" is by default "change for the worse" because.... reasons.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:19 PM

So I’m reading that a judge in Texas may have the power and choose to ban nationwide an FDA approval of the morning after pill which will make it impossible to get nationwide. WTF?

Can I buy this thing and stockpile it just in case?
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:28 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 15 March 2023 - 08:00 PM, said:

It's just a change in the dogwhistle. It's still a dogwhistle, just sounds different. They've been doing it for decades. And they've been doing it that long because it works. Most Americans couldn't tell you the difference between a communist, a socialist, and a fascist and conflate them all. It's why "progressive", "liberal", "leftist", "radical left" all equal some centrist Democrat that isn't even pro national healthcare, just reform; not redistributing the means of production.

"Woke" = "change", and that "change" is by default "change for the worse" because.... reasons.

It always makes me laugh and then despair when I hear ignorant Americans call Joe Biden "extreme left"
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:35 PM

View PostCause, on 17 March 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

So I'm reading that a judge in Texas may have the power and choose to ban nationwide an FDA approval of the morning after pill which will make it impossible to get nationwide. WTF?

Can I buy this thing and stockpile it just in case?


You have a link?
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:39 PM

Just a bit of clearing up details: It's not exactly the specific drug we call the 'morning after pill' (which is a contraceptive), it's one of a couple pills used relatively later to safely terminate an early-stage pregnancy.
But in terms of the sentiment of your post, your bafflement is warranted -- the judge should in no way have the authority to rule on this matter, it's outrageous on its face that the case was even heard, let alone that he's likely to rule with the plaintiffs. No self-respecting federal government would be letting this run its course, which of course means that it's running its course.

That said, you definitely CAN stockpile this pill if you wish. This website is a good resource (on the two medications usually involved in this process, not on this court case which involves one of the two): https://www.plancpills.org/ -- See the "Pills in Advance" section.

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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:47 PM

View PostPrimateus, on 17 March 2023 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 17 March 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

So I'm reading that a judge in Texas may have the power and choose to ban nationwide an FDA approval of the morning after pill which will make it impossible to get nationwide. WTF?

Can I buy this thing and stockpile it just in case?


You have a link?


This is one specific aspect of the case, but it has embedded links to further details:

https://slate.com/ne...n-pill-lie.html
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:47 PM

View PostCause, on 17 March 2023 - 02:19 PM, said:

So I'm reading that a judge in Texas may have the power and choose to ban nationwide an FDA approval of the morning after pill which will make it impossible to get nationwide. WTF?

Can I buy this thing and stockpile it just in case?


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'The Abortion Pill Case Is About Who Makes the Rules in America

[...] It's hard to describe how fundamentally absurd and dishonest these arguments are, but several of my colleagues have tried. [...]

More important than the terrible arguments being proffered here is the technical question of why a single judge in Texas might even have the right to overrule the FDA on a question that is ostensibly a medical one. [... Legally] he really can't.'

Ignore Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk's abortion pill ruling


... but the 'logic' of 'the law' is not the reality of 'the law' (and its effects)... especially after Trump. Logical consistency only prevails if physically enacted.

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'Like any judge, Kacsmaryk has no direct authority to order the FDA to withdraw the drug's approval—instead, "he should only be able to order the agency to start the congressionally mandated process, which involves public hearings and new agency deliberations. This could take months or years [...]" [...] The agency could also pretty easily circumnavigate the restriction by noting that they have made an exception for enforcing the use of this drug due to its safety profile, allowing it to continue to be prescribed around the country. In the meantime, they can appeal the decision up through an appeals court.

If Kacsmaryk does rule against mifepristone, and if the FDA responds by telling people it will effectively not enforce that ruling on the judge's behalf, it will be a real situation of conflicting orders from two opposing powerful entities. So far, when this has happened in the situations surrounding abortion, the threat being scared up by anti-abortion forces has won out. [...] can only hope that the mifepristone case stands to be different, partly because Judge Kacsmaryk's ruling will apply to the entire country, including blue states (and red states) that have overwhelmingly voted or legislated to keep abortion accessible. [...] Biden administration will likely have to figure out how to respond, and possibly even how to intervene. There will be a jousting, and attempts to determine whose rules are the rules we all have to live by[...]

"What's happening is not mere "judge-shopping," as many have called it. That term is traditionally used to describe an individual's search for a nearby court inclined to rule favorably.

By contrast, here there's a coordinated national strategy, enabled by a district court federal bench, to bring right-wing legal causes into a single courtroom where a favorable result is a sure thing and where fair-minded appellate review has also been hijacked."'

Ignore Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk's abortion pill ruling

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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:53 PM

The US is a frightening place to raise a daughter at this time…
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Posted 17 March 2023 - 02:59 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 15 March 2023 - 07:06 PM, said:

https://www.salon.co...-what-it-means/

You know what always amuses me about these American Conservative idiots? They contort themselves into a tonne of different shapes to try to NOT define WOKE as simply "giving a shit about other people"....which is broadly the right answer, but people like this clown KNOW they can't say that out loud without getting raked over the coals for it...so she says anything but.....and even funnier is she gets like halfway to ACTUALLY defining it at the end, and then bails out, drops back to "hard to define" and shoves in more buzzword bullshit to deflect. It would be funny, if it weren't so sad.


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'This is why I tell journalism students that open-ended questions are better than questions that sound tough. When conservatives first hijacked "woke," every journalist should have asked them to define it. Cause these meltdowns would have happened a lot.'

Jemele Hill on Twitter


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'Textbook Cuts Race from Rosa Parks Story Amid "Anti-Woke" Florida Push

[...] all mentions of race and segregation have been removed. "She was told to move to a different seat," the lesson reads [...] Another textbook was apparently rewritten to include a tortured passage on slavery that also removed any mention of race—claiming it was illegal for "men of certain groups" to be unemployed.'

Textbook Cuts Race from Rosa Parks Story Amid 'Anti-Woke' Florida Push: NYT




Ah right, race had nothing to do with it, she was a champion of sovereign citizens' rights, and the best way we could honor her memory is to be sure everybody has a gun to defend their bus seat?

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DeSantis[...] signed a law last year known as the Stop W.O.K.E. Act, which prohibits instruction that would compel students to feel responsibility, guilt or anguish for what other members of their race did in the past, among other limits. [...]

In the current lesson on Rosa Parks, segregation is clearly explained: "The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down."


[...] In the updated version, race is not mentioned at all.

"She was told to move to a different seat," the lesson said, without an explanation of segregation.


[...] Studies Weekly made similar changes to a fourth-grade lesson about segregation laws that arose after the Civil War.

In the initial version for the textbook review, the text routinely refers to African Americans, explaining how they were affected by the laws. The second version eliminates nearly all direct mentions of race, saying that it was illegal for "men of certain groups" to be unemployed and that "certain groups of people" were prevented from serving on a jury.'

Florida Will Review Social Studies Textbooks for 'Prohibited Topics' - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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Posted 17 March 2023 - 04:18 PM

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