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#11601 User is offline   Cause 

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 01:47 PM

From what I read with Nevada, winsocnsin and Michigan which are all possible, Biden wins. Michigan is currently red but I think is expected to flip.
With mail ballots? So PA might not be needed even?
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 01:49 PM

View PostCause, on 04 November 2020 - 01:47 PM, said:

From what I read with Nevada, winsocnsin and Michigan which are all possible, Biden wins. Michigan is currently red but I think is expected to flip.
With mail ballots? So PA might not be needed even?


Yeah, there are a lot of mail-in ballots for Michigan apparently. I've been hearing since earlier on last night that the current votes don't represent the final count.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:02 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 04 November 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 04 November 2020 - 01:47 PM, said:

From what I read with Nevada, winsocnsin and Michigan which are all possible, Biden wins. Michigan is currently red but I think is expected to flip.
With mail ballots? So PA might not be needed even?


Yeah, there are a lot of mail-in ballots for Michigan apparently. I've been hearing since earlier on last night that the current votes don't represent the final count.


Michigan is 20 4 thousand votes' difference right now with 92% 93% reported.

I really, really hope it flips. (EDIT: IT DID! :) )

Also 12k ppl in Michigan voted Green and 55k voted Libertarian.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:07 PM

Michigan!
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:08 PM

View PostMentalist, on 04 November 2020 - 02:02 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 04 November 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 04 November 2020 - 01:47 PM, said:

From what I read with Nevada, winsocnsin and Michigan which are all possible, Biden wins. Michigan is currently red but I think is expected to flip.
With mail ballots? So PA might not be needed even?


Yeah, there are a lot of mail-in ballots for Michigan apparently. I've been hearing since earlier on last night that the current votes don't represent the final count.


Michigan is 20 4 thousand votes' difference right now with 92% 93% reported.

I really, really hope it flips. (EDIT: IT DID! :) )

Also 12k ppl in Michigan voted Green and 55k voted Libertarian.


Just saw it flip. Damn that's the stuff.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:08 PM

Biden ahead by 1337

not even a joke

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PS: up even more now

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This post has been edited by Terez: 04 November 2020 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:08 PM

538 is reporting tweets suggesting with all the mail in counting in WI, MI, and AZ, those will probably go to Biden, but it'll be very close.

That means Biden's got to get NC, NV, GA, or PA to win, and trump has to win all of them.

I don't think Biden'll get NC or GA.

Philly still has hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots to count, and those have been heavily democratic, but I guess we'll see what happens.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:17 PM

As long as he holds on to the leads he's got now (Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin), we should be in the clear.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:19 PM

View PostMentalist, on 04 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

As long as he holds on to the leads he's got now (Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin), we should be in the clear.





NV is 8k vote diff. with less than 70% reporting... I'm not sure I'd count that one in the bag.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:21 PM

It's pretty well in the bag considering that 100% of their election day votes are counted and reported, and 100% of the mail-in votes that arrived by the weekend. The 70% is an estimate from the beginning of the night and that can change too depending on how many votes are actually still outstanding, and most are anticipated to be in Clark County which is the home of Las Vegas and unlikely to break for Trump.

We just won't find out for sure until tomorrow morning because state regulations don't allow them to report on today's count until then.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:23 PM

View PostTerez, on 04 November 2020 - 02:21 PM, said:

It's pretty well in the bag considering that 100% of their election day votes are counted and reported, and 100% of the mail-in votes that arrived by the weekend. The 70% is an estimate from the beginning of the night and that can change too depending on how many votes are actually still outstanding, and most are anticipated to be in Clark County which is the home of Las Vegas and unlikely to break for Trump.

We just won't find out for sure until tomorrow morning because state regulations don't allow them to report on today's count until then.


My understanding is Clark was about 50/50 split, but jesus I've been trying to not get super worked up about this in the expectation that my fellow Americans are going to elect a tinpot dictator again.

Here is a tweet re: when Biden Campaign expects results
https://twitter.com/...4819000320?s=20

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:27 PM

So do we talk about that speech overnight where Trump DEMANDED that vote counting be stopped in states in which he is in front, and continue in states in which he is behind?

Or is this kind of bullshit just par for the course of the terrible reality we've found ourselves in for the past 5 years?
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:30 PM

It's definitely just par for the course. After a while you just get tired of expressing outrage because his cult is both terrible and delusional so it doesn't do any good. If we don't fire him, we're fucked, and that's all there is to it.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:30 PM

Also, 3rd post in a row because I'm like that, hows the Senate looking? I saw Harrison lost and expected the turtle to win, so it looks like a GOP senate or no?
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:30 PM

Seems like AZ was just called officially for Biden? Can't corroborate though...

EDIT: and WI is either 97% in or 99% in with Biden ahead by 20k votes?

eDIT 2: and MI just got 25k more votes and pushed Biden ahead to 0.2 from 0.1 ahead.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:32 PM

Fox News called AZ for Biden many hours ago, I think around midnight. AP followed them a couple of hours later. No one else has called AZ for Biden that I am aware of.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:33 PM

WI has Biden up over 20k votes with 97-99% of the vote in.

I think we can feel safe calling that one for Biden.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:34 PM

View PostObdigore, on 04 November 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

So do we talk about that speech overnight where Trump DEMANDED that vote counting be stopped in states in which he is in front, and continue in states in which he is behind?

Or is this kind of bullshit just par for the course of the terrible reality we've found ourselves in for the past 5 years?


I expect him to say this kind of stuff and much, much worse things even if he wins and definitely if he loses.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:35 PM

View PostTerez, on 04 November 2020 - 02:32 PM, said:

Fox News called AZ for Biden many hours ago, I think around midnight. AP followed them a couple of hours later. No one else has called AZ for Biden that I am aware of.


Ah, it must be the AP report that I saw. I missed that Fox was calling it....also Fox called it for Biden? Really?

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View PostObdigore, on 04 November 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

So do we talk about that speech overnight where Trump DEMANDED that vote counting be stopped in states in which he is in front, and continue in states in which he is behind?

Or is this kind of bullshit just par for the course of the terrible reality we've found ourselves in for the past 5 years?


I expect him to say this kind of stuff and much, much worse things even if he wins and definitely if he loses.



I saw many people say that while they expected it or something like it...that to actually hear him say it out loud was bone chilling.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 02:35 PM

View PostObdigore, on 04 November 2020 - 02:33 PM, said:

WI has Biden up over 20k votes with 97-99% of the vote in.

I think we can feel safe calling that one for Biden.

Yeah I felt safe on that one a few hours ago. It's just a matter of waiting for them to call it, which should happen today. The Biden campaign is pressuring them to call it.

MI also expects to be reporting enough to be called by about "midday".

GA will start to move within the next couple of hours, and PA will continue to move all day.

Again, NV won't move until tomorrow. Not sure about when we can expect those final AZ votes. Not sure about NC either; I've dismissed that as an option for Biden even though he still technically has a chance.

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