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#11641 User is offline   Cyphon 

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 05:49 PM

Quick question, US population for adults is 245ish, so with current vote of 70m for Biden and 67m for Trunp, where is the other 100m?
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 05:57 PM

View PostCyphon, on 04 November 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

Quick question, US population for adults is 245ish, so with current vote of 70m for Biden and 67m for Trunp, where is the other 100m?


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Posted 04 November 2020 - 06:00 PM

Thinking about it that's about a 60% turnout which isn't dramatically off democratic norms. I guess I got skewed by the sheer numbers of Americans.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 06:49 PM

Was winsconsin called? I haven’t seen it.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:02 PM

View PostCause, on 04 November 2020 - 06:49 PM, said:

Was winsconsin called? I haven’t seen it.


I think it was and Trump about 4 seconds later demanded a recount. Put on your surprised face.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:17 PM

Except even Walker said 20,000 isn't going to be overturned.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:20 PM

I keep watching the live coverage for the latest news even though I know we won't really know anything for certain before tomorrow. I'm amazed at how good these journalists are at spinning their wheels.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:39 PM

I was thinking all this chat is fun, shall we do this election thing every few months? ;)
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:40 PM

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 07:59 PM

if 20K for Wisconsin is enough, surely we can put Michigan to bed with 32 37K difference?

Then we can all just wait for Nevada tomorrow morning to make it official.

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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 08:06 PM

View PostCyphon, on 04 November 2020 - 07:39 PM, said:

I was thinking all this chat is fun, shall we do this election thing every few months? ;)

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 08:14 PM

I still can't believe more people voted for Trump this year than in 2016...

The last four years was a total shit show and yet he still gets more support... madness!

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 08:21 PM

View Postchamp, on 04 November 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

I still can't believe more people voted for Trump this year than in 2016...

The last four years was a total shit show and yet he still gets more support... madness!



I am utterly (pleasantly) surprised there seems to be enough people with common sense to vote him out.

our standards for humans clearly vary.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 08:35 PM

Wow Jaime Harrison raised beaucoup $$. That's got to be a horrible feeling to lose to "overcome by the vapors, southern belle". Saw parts of his concession speech. He's a class act.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 08:41 PM

There were a lot of polling misses, but I think it's hard to argue that the Bradley Effect wasn't at play in some of the southern states this cycle. It got Jamie Harrison, but we saw it even with Mike Espy in MS who never really had much of a chance; there was a big disparity in polling between his race and the presidential election in MS, and that disparity almost disappeared in the end.

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Posted 04 November 2020 - 09:21 PM

CNN just called Michigan for Biden. I’ll celebrate when the AP calls.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 09:38 PM

View PostSlow Ben, on 04 November 2020 - 09:21 PM, said:

CNN just called Michigan for Biden. I’ll celebrate when the AP calls.


As has been true in every state so far, Biden's numbers swing hard upwards when counting mail-in ballots. It's why a lot of people are pretty sure that Biden has MI, NV, and AZ, but we'll have to wait it out.

We are watching Trump's lead in PA tick down extremely fast every time they update their mail in numbers, if they keep going at this rate Biden might actually win PA as well, as a number of people were suggesting this morning.

But holy fuck is it hard to believe anything 'projected' at this point...
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 09:41 PM

Right?! He’s up 78000 in GA now also.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 09:43 PM

View PostTerez, on 04 November 2020 - 08:41 PM, said:

There were a lot of polling misses, but I think it's hard to argue that the Bradley Effect wasn't at play in some of the southern states this cycle. It got Jamie Harrison, but we saw it even with Mike Espy in MS who never really had much of a chance; there was a big disparity in polling between his race and the presidential election in MS, and that disparity almost disappeared in the end.



There are other things in play, continued election bullshit in GA, Florida GOP refusing to re-enfranchise up to 1.4 million felons, and the subtle whisper of 'Socialism' to scare cuban-americans with horror stories of their parents losing it all.

Lets be honest, there were a lot of misses from Joe and his campaign, and honestly he doesn't inspire much of anyone. I really think this election was decided more on love/hate Donald Trump than anything else, and that wont work for Dems in 2022 or 2024 if Trump isn't around.

The Pelosi/Schumer and their ilk really do need to retire, and stop trying to appeal to 'conservative voters who are left behind by the GOP moving further right'. That still doesn't fucking work, because all those voters are sprinting towards fascism with them. This election pretty obviously proves it, since both candidates put up crazy high numbers, and it has the highest participation rate since 1900. And it's still this close.
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Posted 04 November 2020 - 09:52 PM

View PostSlow Ben, on 04 November 2020 - 09:41 PM, said:

Right?! He’s up 78000 in GA now also.


Well.. Trump's still ahead in GA and its very close at 96% reporting, but I believe the majority of the outstanding votes are from the Atlanta metro area, so theres a chance, but I'm not holding my breath.

I really wish Stacey Abrahms hadn't lost in 2018, and I wish SCOTUS hadn't ruled the 1965 Voting Rights Act as 'to old'(which let Stacey's opponent kick over 500,000 people off the eligible voter roll - https://www.apmrepor...records-removed), yet they attempt to adhere to the constitution? Fucking bullshit front to back.
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