[Eltar]

Quote changed. And once again, I agree with you Loki.

The only two parts where I might - might!!! - see where people complain are

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the final bit with the armada. I would have liked to have seen at least the Destiny Ascension in the fleet... and the change from Anderson to Udina as Councilor - with NO in game explanation for it - even though I liked Anderson's role quite a bit and enjoyed getting to see Udinas die. Other than that, however, I am perfectly fine with how Bioware treated the choice system.

[Loki]

Gothos

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I didn't expect every decision my Shepard made to have everlasting consequences. Too unrealistic if that was the case. Things like the council and rachni are all things beyond my Shep's realm of influence. They didn't bother me at all.

Eltar

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The Destiny Ascension was in my fleet - you saw during the fleet cutscene

[Eltar]

Seriously? I think that I got glitched out or something, because I had the thing in my war assets but never saw it during that cutscene. Irksome.

[acesn8s]

I saw it as well.

[Eltar]

Damn my game! And on my current renegade playthrough I let the council die... dangit!

[Loki]

Go back to a previous save and head to Earth. Perhaps you just missed it the first time.

[Tapper]

Gothos, on 30 March 2012 - 06:01 AM, said:

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Rachni queen, collector base, saving the council - not so well represented as you'd think, yes?

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Rachni queen was a cop-out but it made 300 points difference if you had saved her twice. The council... there was always going to be one in place - it just determined whether or not they'd give you the Destiny Ascension. Collector Base, well, technically, that was for Cerberus, wasn't it?


I'd say the reward for the Rachni was justified considering the entire scene in ME 1 wasn't about the queen but about Berenzia. Essentially, it was a 1 click moment. Saving the Council deserved more considering it was the culmination of the first game (or a side effect of the first game), but emphasizing that by massive points or major quests would shoot people who were like 'screw the xeno's, screw the council' in the foot. As it stands, it may be that the war score of the human fleets was lowered if you did save the council, withy the Destiny as compensation?
Collector Base: yeah, a pity, but other than giving around 500 WE if you saved it, I can't see what else they should have done with it... perhaps also make Cerberus 10% stronger if you had saved it, on account of the tech they salvaged there?

In essence, the entire strength of Cerberus was perhaps due to what you did on that base, anyway. I think in one of the Codex entries in ME 2, it read that Cerberus was a very small organisation (maybe as small as 150 who were in on almost everything). You shoot around a 150 cerberus personell in a single mission, and they had at the least 1k men in the Citadel invasion, probably ten times that if you go with around 30k security forces/ military personell on the Citadel defense.

[Illuyankas]

Oh wow, I just heard about the cupcakes thing. Oh Bioware, is there nothing you can't make a PR disaster?

[Eltar]

Thanks for the heads up guys and gals. I'll check my paragon save again sometime after I finish my Renegade run through. I'm loving an evilish fem shep far too much for my own good at the moment.

And what is this about cupcakes?

[Illuyankas]

Basically, someone baked a bunch of cupcakes which (ending spoilers)

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were coloured red, green and blue but all tasted identical

and sent it to Bioware's offices. So Bioware donated them to charity but announced it in a hilariously passive agressive 'We're doing this because we don't feel this shows proper appreciation for our fine artists' way. When you can turn donating food to charity into making yourselves look like asses, you know you've got it made.

[Lucifer's Heaven]

Lol
I hadn't heard about their response. For fuck's sake they're making DLC to shut those fans up, they should have just eaten the damn cupcakes, apologised for their balls-up and gotten on with it so everyone could just get over it already...

[Loki]

Courtesy of Wolfy

[Primateus]

Loki, on 01 April 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Courtesy of Wolfy

That is just so very, very wrong while simultaneously being so very, very, very awesome!

[Eltar]

I think that the greater part of my soul cringed in horror... but the part of me that loves cheesy 80's cartoons gave a little whoop of joy.

[Eltar]

A Mass Effect 3 Tribute/Memorial video. Contains SPOILERS.

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[Aptorian]

A pretty good explanation of why the ending of Mass Effect 3 felt so disappointing. The point is made by comparing Mass Effect with the Lord of the Rings:

http://doycetesterma...tistic-process/

[Morgoth]

ahem

http://investor.ea.c...eleaseID=662095

[acesn8s]

I'm glad I procrastinated trading ME3 in this past weekend.

[Ulrik]

Am I flawed, when I actually liked ending of ME3?

[Defiance]

I think BioWare is attempting to find the middle ground by pleasing the largest number of people possible with this director's cut. People who want answers will get more of them, and people who like the original ending won't be upset because apparently they aren't changing that.

Which, to me, is bullshit. The current ending sucks, is completely nonsensical, and the only way to truly fix it so that it stays true to the other 2.99 games in the series is to change it. They're attempting to solve a problem by answering all of the questions that have arisen from it, rather than just attacking the root of the problem (the end-game sequence with the Catalyst) itself. I could be a bit premature, and BioWare could still surprise me, but I have a sinking feeling that they won't.

Good for everyone who enjoyed the ending, I guess. I don't understand you guys, but at least you can still enjoy what used to be one of the best video game series ever for me. The first 2.99 games are still fucking amazing, but damn, the ending really soured the experience for me. No matter who many times I go back and play, I'll always know what's waiting for me.

Here is a video that explains why the ending is so bad in a logical manner from not just a gaming perspective, but a storytelling one. It's 39 minutes long, but I strongly urge everyone here to watch it. If you did like the ending and do watch this video and still manage to think the ending is great, please tell me how and why.