[Abyss]

Among various silliness, the best thing Bay did with the movies was establish that humans aren't just ineffectual little victims who can't do squat against the big bad angry robots.

Shockwave riding a laser chain gun... fuck it... call in a flight of Predator drones... (the F22s didn't do so good last time)...

- Abyss, notes GI Joe shot up Bumblebee real good back in the 80s...

[Darkwatch]

So someone has written a kind of apology (in the philosophical sense) for Transformers 3:

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[Aptorian]

Damn that looks awesome.

[QuickTidal]

What I like best about that trailer is it gives credit to Michael Bay as a good director. I have always liked Michael Bay's movies....pretty much every last one of them in fact....though TF 2 is probably his worst.

I mean this is the guy that gave us gems like BAD BOYS, THE ROCK, ARMAGEDDON (I don't care, I like it), yeah, he also did less awesome stuff like THE ISLAND and BAD BOYS 2, but even those have redeeming qualities.

Basically if you want badass action sequences, and someone who can blow up a city block and make it look like a symphony, you call fucking Michael Bay.

I'm excited for TF3, hoping it's better than 2.

[Macros]

Best part in that masterclass video (we get the point, micheal can blow shit up, so can al-Qaeda et al but they arent winning any awards) is when its listing the qualities, blowing shit up, action, then the real gem "people looking up" this si supposed two be a selling point but it was jsut too funny for me, I actually burst out laughing at that part, comedy genious

[tiam]

not as fit as megan fox though...

I dont have any childhood dreams to destroy as I never really watched transformers but as a standard film goer the second one was all sorts of shite. Ill still watch this one though for 2 hours of brain shutdown time

[QuickTidal]

Oh my god. Would you guys believe me if I told you that this is the best of the 3?

fuck me, this movie was OODLES better than I could have hoped for.

The entire last hour is battle and it is done SO well.

The 3D is really well done.

There are no stupid twins!

Mirage is badass Italian Ferrari with long curved sickle blades up his arms....that he can shoot our to grapple and attack....seriously!

Rose Huntington Whitley can actually act and deliver lines (unlike Megan Fox).

The human storyline is actually interesting here.

You get to see the waning years of the war on Cybertron....and it is about as glorious looking as you can imagine.

Bay let's the Transformers out to play in this one.

I honestly can't say enough good things. After TF 2 was pretty lame, TF 3 totally redeems the franchise.

Worth every giant robot 'splodey penny!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 29 June 2011 - 03:53 AM

[QuickTidal]

My full thoughts on this awesome and redeeming third film here:

http://icebergink.bl...rk-of-moon.html

[Abyss]

YES

[champ]

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

[QuickTidal]

Expect a Michael Bay movie still, just one at the top of his game. I loved it. Even the quirky John Turturo stuff.

Beyond that don't expect Carly to be any roaring hell acting wise...she's just better than Fox is all. She's still a model posing as an actress.

[QuickTidal]

This is funny. Critics don't usually like Michael Bay's flicks...at least not recent ones...and this Critic rating certainly reflects that...but...

90% amongst actual movie going public (audience) based on like 60,000 people's ratings is pretty damn good and shows you a movie that critics will hate, but movie-goers may love...like me.

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[Salt-Man Z]

I cut out of work early to catch this with a buddy. It was pretty awesome. For background, I pretty much loved the first movie, but hated the second. TF3 falls somewhere in the middle for me. The first had more heart than either of the others (my favorite part is the first half with Spike, Bumblebee and Barricade, cut with Scorponok chasing Lennox through the desert.) But TF3 delivers on the sheer spectacle. The plot is great in theory, but in execution almost none of it makes a lick of sense. It's very dark, and VERY violent--my son won't be seeing this one--but it's thankfully lacking most of the toilet humor that plagued RotF. And the humor that is there mostly avoids the groan-worthy attempts of the previous movie.

Turn your brain off at the door and be prepared to be blown away. And go ahead and cough up the extra $3 (or whatevs) and catch the 3-D; it's extremely well-done.

[Cause]

Movie is terrible! I understand its a movie about giant robots but I would still like it to be a bit more serious in character. Some of the humor is absurd. The plot is also paper thin and while I enjoyed watching the action scenes if that was all a movie was then the movie would be 45 minutes instead of three hours.

My opinion 2/5

[Imperial Historian]

I enjoyed it. The plot of the film isn't great, but it does a great job of setting up a solid hour of robots blowing shit up, robots blowing people up, people blowing robots up, robots blowing robots up and optimus prime blowing everything up in glorious 3D which is pretty much what I go to a Transformers 3 film to see.

[blackzoid]

Garbage. Complete and utter garbage. Film makers should be able to create a film with both robots blowing each other up and an emotional centre. I liked the first one because it was transformers and because you could see Spielberg reined in Bay. The last 2, pah. When you get this on DVD, you will skip to the fight scenes. Will you ever rewatch the entire film from start to finish again? Don't think so.


2 quotes from some reviews (don't ask me to quote the links, I don't remember where I found them from. Just the lines were so apt.)
1: "Its one thing to go see a film and not think and leave your brain at the door. This film assumes that you CANT think"
2: "Its like a dog squeezed into a garbage bin, ate everything in plain sight and then vomited all over the bin. Then restarted eating"

Plus a relevant link I believe
http://www.empireonl...ates/post/p1094

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[QuickTidal]

blackzoid, on 30 June 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

Film makers should be able to create a film with both robots blowing each other up and an emotional centre.

Think about what you are saying here. Like REALLY think about it. LOL

This is a movie based on a 1980's after school TV series invented for toys that are basically at eternal war with each other so little boys and girls could smash the robots together....with the added cool factor of being able to transform them.

emotional centre....pah...LOL

This movie is good because it sets out to be exactly what it is....if that's not your forte, I'm cool with that....but I think if you are looking for an "emotional centre" then you should be watching A.I. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE and not TRANSFORMERS.

TRANSFORMERS is about the 'splodey and the fun, always has been, always will be. If you went in looking for something else I am afraid your childhood didn't inform you well about the source material.

[blackzoid]

Nope, Transformers can also be deep. If the film makers took more than the lowest commen denominator.
This is like the contrast between Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight. Both based on the silly premise of a man dressing up as a bat to fight crime. But what a contrast in film!

Transformers can be deep. Just use more than just the original cartoon as a source. The Marvel comics, DW comics, IDW comics, Transformers animated tv show. Some deep themes can be addressed while also having robot battles. It takes more work, but surely a fraction of the special effects budget could be spared for creating a good story to facilitate the action?

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[QuickTidal]

blackzoid, on 30 June 2011 - 12:25 PM, said:

Nope, Transfores can also be deep. If the film makers took more than the lowest commen denominator.
This is like the contrast between Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight. Both based on the silly premise of a man dressing up as a bat to fight crime. But what a contrast in film!

Transformers can be deep. Just use more than just the original cartoon as a source. The Marvel comics, DW comics, IDW comics, Transformers animated tv show. Some deep themes can be addressed while also having robot battles. It takes more work, but surely a fraction of the special effects budget could be spared for creating a good story to facilitate the action?

Yes but WHY? Why on earth would you need to do that? Why does it HAVE to be deep for you to enjoy it? I certainly don't want Emo Transformers.

This isn't comic books. The comic books have a different feel because they are significantly darker. One where a decepticon with grab a human in his hand and crush him until blood leaks out of his cold metal fingers....eff that, I don't watch Transformers for that sort of darkness sorry.

This also isn't Batman. That's apples and oranges.

Besides which, this one deals with loss, it deals with having to let things happen because you can't stop them happening, it deals with humans overcoming adversity and taking on giant effing robots when they barely stand a chance, it deals with death, it deals with love, it deals with trust. It actually deals with far more levels of emotion than you seem to ascribe to it, it just does them in a way that isn't overly dark and foreboding. Duhamel in particular gives a speech that is really emotional before sending his men off to pretty much die in combat against an implacable foe. How about Epps dealing with the equivalent of Decepticon PTSD?

Or how about Optimus

Spoiler

having to deal with the betrayal of his mentor, and not only that but having to drop the bullets into that mentor's head? That's heavy to me.

But like I said above, if you went in looking for TDK then you went to see the wrong movie and expect way too much of TF.

[blackzoid]

"Expect way too much of transfomrers" Wny NOT demand the best of transformers. I just gave The Dark Knight as an example of something which contains the same characters as a film that is utterly rubbish. Another example would be Aliens/Predator and the combined AVP films. Huge change in standards but containing the same characters. Its the difference between bad films and good films.

Transfomers doesn't have to be the next Citzen Kane, but we as consumers should demand that it be competant. That the characters and story engage us. That there not be jumpy editing and nonsensical continuity. That the characters not act like complete numbskulls.

I don't want to get into spoiler territory, but taken as a whole the film was mishapen junk. I felt no connection with anything. I didn't care if any character lived or died. What does it matter if Megatron or Op Prime won if I didn't care? At some points humans are killed. I openly laughed out loud in the cinema. Thats not a good sign.
You say you don't want Emo transfomrers, neither do I. I do want some depth however. That doesn't have to involve Emo.

For all the blathering on that Bay said that this film would be darker than the others, it was all false. There was no darkness, it was cheesy battle-porn mixed with female body lingering. Thats it.

"This isn't comic books. The comic books have a different feel because they are significantly darker. One where a decepticon with grab a human in his hand and crush him until blood leaks out of his cold metal fingers....eff that, I don't watch Transformers for that sort of darkness sorry."

I don't want that sort of story either. Robot on Robot violence by itself is fine. But just imagine a film version of IDW's Last Stand of the Wreckers.
Lots of robot violence, but plenty of heart too. The robots are actual characters. It means something if they die.

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