[Hetan]

Just trying to remember if there was anything about the sword belonging to Faradan Sort? I don't think so but remember there being a reference to the Stormwall about it.

[beru]

it was a storwall sword

i think its more of a special swordmarking that says more about the bearer than the sword

[Binder of Demons]

I thought that it was the Scabbard of her sword seemed to indicate she had been on the Stormwall, whereas the sword itself was something pretty standard. But I could be remembering wrong?

[blackzoid]

Don't forget Skinner's poisoned sword from RoTCG.
Also Greymane had a regular sword and some sort of special "Burn sword" as well.

[Animace]

An interesting point about Ruthan Gudds sword is that he seemed to have never before experienced it "Manifesting" its powers, as he seems bemused by what was happening with it.

There's a mention in Dust of Dreams to weapons wielded on the stormwall being etched in some way by the Stormrider's power/attacks, and this is what marked Sorts blade.

[Illuyankas]

Oh yeah, the wandmagic stuff.

[Abyss]

Hetan, on 29 October 2009 - 08:54 AM, said:

Just trying to remember if there was anything about the sword belonging to Faradan Sort? I don't think so but remember there being a reference to the Stormwall about it.

Binder of Demons, on 29 October 2009 - 11:59 AM, said:

I thought that it was the Scabbard of her sword seemed to indicate she had been on the Stormwall, whereas the sword itself was something pretty standard. But I could be remembering wrong?

BoD got it - she tells Bottle in TB that she left the original sword stuck inside an enemy.

blackzoid, on 29 October 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

Don't forget Skinner's poisoned sword from RoTCG.
Also Greymane had a regular sword and some sort of special "Burn sword" as well.

Both good points, list updated below...




Dragnipur - made by Draconus, taken by Rake, broken by Brood. Had the gate to Mommy D and a small world inside it, powered by souls, frikkin heavy. may kill with just a scratch.

Chance - wielded by Paran, invested by Oponn, acquired by Cotillion. was lucky for the wielder until it wasn't.

Otataral sword - wielded by Adjunct Lorn, broken by Paran, shard used against Poliel, Trygalle took the rest. negates magic. tavore has the same kind of sword, tho' not the same one Lorn used. can nullify warren magic (tho not Elder warrens). tends to give the bearer healing and some kind of 'awareness'.

Tool's sword - his original sword and his later one were both two handed Imass stone swords, invested by Kilava to be unbreakable. The suggestion is that all Imass weapons are similarly invested, tho' we don't actually know if that's true. It was hinted that the knife and arrows Tool made for Toc were 'special'.

Icarium's single edged sword - not really clear if the sword itself is special, other than being really old. It did cut through Karsa's second wood sword in one swipe.

Mappo's Mace - basically an invested t-rex thigh bone.

Brood's Hammer - can wake Burn. Which is apparently a bad thing. Also, smashes stuff real good.

Kallor's Big Ass Sword - It's big, it can cut through dragons, and it's as old as he is, which is saying alot.

Vengeance/Grief - belonged to Rake, then Andarist, then Dessembrae. Makes a wielder of 'singular will' almost invulnerable. Still impressive for lesser people.

Bairoth Delum - two handed stone sword made by Karsa. Invested by the Unbound to be unbreakable. Karsa's original two companions' ghosts live in it. so to speak.

Kalam's long knives - Acquired in HoC, the Wickan long knives are described as being as big as a short sword, so here they are. One has otataral and was invested/made by Bellurdan. Stabs things really well. Negates magic.

Rhulad's sword - made by Withal from shards of Silchas Ruin's two short swords that were shattered by a Matron just before he was betrayed by Scabby Bloodeye, this fine piece of work fights for the wielder, and links them to the Crippled God so that they die and come back to life, each time stronger and more skilled. And crazy. Presumably broken by Withal at the end of RG.

Glory Goat and Sarat Wept - two 'cursed' Letherii blue steel swords Brys and the Ceda gave to Silchas Ruin. They 'moan' when struck on steel - Goat apprently sounds like adying goat, go figure. Self-sharpening and self-healing of nicks and dents as long as they have enough material. Sarat was supposed to shatter when its wielder died, but didn't.

Greymane's stone sword - appears to be linked to Burn in some way similar to Brood's hammer. Greymane can just 'summon' it from nowehere, unclear if this is an ability of him or the sword.

Kyle's first sword - an ordinary long sword but 'blessed' by an avowed mage with an air symbol. carries Osserc in it for a while before it breaks.

Osserc's sword - big shiny glowing blade that cuts through just about anything. Ossi gave this to Kyle to replace his earlier sword.

Rill's two longswords - originally wielded by a champion of Li Heng, Rill took these when Rylandaras was released and carried them through the book. they don't break, which is impressive considering some of the stuff he does with them.

Skinner's poison sword - unclear whether this is actually an invested weapon similar to his armour from Ardata, or Skinner just smears poo on the blade to be extra evil. The former seems more likely.

Spinnock Durav's longsword - a Hust blade, may have been broken by Kallor, tho being a Hust blade, it may grow back.

Ruthan Gudd's Stormrider sword - appears to give the wielder 'ice' magic, tho' it is damn cold and can kill them. Seems to react to sorcery.

The Watch's Hust blade - wielded by either Rake or Ruin, tossed in the sea when it broke but it grew back and was claimed by the Watch.

Rilk - Ublala's axe. Made from dragon parts.

Draconus' sword - it's not really clear in DoD just what it does but it's described as a great big black nasty thing and he basically conjures it, so here it is.



- Abyss, fan of s-words.

[Hetan]

Gruntle's stripey cutlasses?

[Silencer]

I presume that Greymane's 'mundane' sword is rather like Ruthan Gudd's sword. He seems to know quite a bit about Grey, and both of them have 'normal' swords which have illusions on them. I got the distinct impression that Gerymane's large sword appearing out of nowhere was in fact his plain sword showing it's true colours, just like Gudd's sword suddenly changing into a ice-based magic-infused deathweapon. I'd have to look for specific references, but I was pretty sure that's how it went in both cases.

[eiji]

Abyss said:

eiji said:

dosnt Brys sword get a shout

Brys was an exceptionally talented swordman but his sword was no more special than Whiskeyjack's, by example. Why include it?

- Abyss, non-inclusive.

i only included it as it was given to all he forgotten Gods. It was returned to him when he returned in RG. I just think someting must have happend. The guardian said his sacrifice would be remembered. if i remember right he takes the sword and 'the currents' return hin to the letherii empire

This post has been edited by Abyss: 30 October 2009 - 02:11 PM
Reason for edit: You put your response inside the quotes which made it look like i was talking to myself... more than usual... what?? stopit STARING at me, or me! OR ME!!!

[Abyss]

Hetan, on 30 October 2009 - 06:51 AM, said:

Gruntle's stripey cutlasses?

Hmmm... my initial thought was 'yes', but isn't ANY weapon used by a Mortal Sword/champion/Knight by definition 'special' by way of the power a god invests in their human?
Technically Brukhalian's sword and the Second's spear would then fall in as well, but realy, anything they did with those weapons was more a function of the aspected human than the weapon itself, unlike the weapons on the list so far.
Thoughts?

Silencer, on 30 October 2009 - 07:20 AM, said:

I presume that Greymane's 'mundane' sword is rather like Ruthan Gudd's sword. He seems to know quite a bit about Grey, and both of them have 'normal' swords which have illusions on them. I got the distinct impression that Gerymane's large sword appearing out of nowhere was in fact his plain sword showing it's true colours...

I don't think so. Then it wouldn't have mattered whether Greymane used the longsword or the stonesword against Skinner.

eiji, on 30 October 2009 - 12:43 PM, said:

...i only included it as it was given to all he forgotten Gods. It was returned to him when he returned in RG. I just think someting must have happend. The guardian said his sacrifice would be remembered. if i remember right he takes the sword and 'the currents' return hin to the letherii empire

Valid point, but again, it's just an ordinary sword that was passed between some fairly powerful wielders, but not special in itself that we've ever seen. Brys gave that sword to the Guardian, and used a different sword against Rhulad at the end of MT.


- Abyss, sharpest knife in the drawers...

[Hetan]

Regarding the cutlasses - I do agree with you regarding the weapons of those in service to a God.

Of course there are two "special" spears - the one that Seren had and the one the Seguleh 2nd used.

[Malaclypse]

The weapon(s) of a Mortal Sword are presumably automatically sanctified and thus empowered - still counts I think.

Quote

Brukhalian walked to the hearth, drawing his sword once more. He set the blunt end amongst the cold embers, slowly stirred the ashes. Flames licked into life, the coals burgeoning a glowing red. The spatters and streaks of Jaghut blood on the blade sizzled black, then burned away to nothing...the unveiled power of the sanctified sword...'(MoI, UK Trade, p.250)

The title is misleading as this is no longer just about swords so don't forget about Icarium's arrows:

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'The warrens carved into their shafts could bring down a dragon...' (DG, UK MMPB, p.106-7)

Also, it is safe to assume that all Imass stone weapons are magicked to be unbreakable.

Smoky scribbling a sigil on a weapon to give it cool aspected powers is awesome - I wonder what the range of choices is? he seemed pretty nonchalant about it like it was no big deal...

Also, Grief/Vengeance was forged by Anomander Rake, if you're interested in that level of detail for your list

Cheers

[Cougar]

Malaclypse, on 30 October 2009 - 03:38 PM, said:

Smoky scribbling a sigil on a weapon to give it cool aspected powers is awesome - I wonder what the range of choices is? he seemed pretty nonchalant about it like it was no big deal...

Is it possible that smoky scribbling on it actually had very little effect, but rather, due to the nature of the sigil, drew the attention of Osric?

[Abyss]

Hetan, on 30 October 2009 - 03:18 PM, said:

...there are two "special" spears - the one that Seren had and the one the Seguleh 2nd used.

i'm drawing a blank here - what was 'special' about Seren's spear?


- Abyss, pointedly.

[Hetan]

Abyss... perhaps we should change the title to "Weapons of Wu"?

[Abyss]

Updated again... we've gone from swords into 'special' weapons of all kinds but i'm having fun so hey, why stop at swords... i've stuck to invested or ascpedted weapons that actually have 'power', as opposed to weapons which may have been used to significant/cool effect but aren't known to be anything special (Brys' sword, Leoman's flails, etc)...



Dragnipur - Made by Draconus, taken by Rake, broken by Brood. Had the gate to Mommy D and a small world inside it, powered by souls, frikkin heavy. May kill with just a scratch.

Chance - Wielded by Paran, invested by Oponn, acquired by Cotillion. Was lucky for the wielder until it wasn't.

Otataral sword - Wielded by Adjunct Lorn, broken by Paran, shard used against Poliel, Trygalle took the rest. Negates magic. Tavore has the same kind of sword, tho' not the same one Lorn used. Can nullify warren magic (tho not Elder warrens). Tends to give the bearer healing and some kind of 'awareness'.

Tool's sword - His original sword and his later one were both two handed Imass stone swords, invested by Kilava to be unbreakable. The suggestion is made a few times that all Imass weapons are similarly invested, tho' we don't actually know if that's true. It was hinted that the knife and arrows Tool made for Toc were 'special'. If true, then any Imass weapon including Toc's, Stormy/Legana Breed's, Onrack's and so on might fit on this list... but i'm lazy so just take it as inferred...

Galayn Lord's sword - It didn't break going up against Dragnipur, which is saying something. Didn't help him much, mind you...

Icarium's single edged sword - It's not really clear if the sword itself is special, other than being really old. It did cut through Karsa's second wood sword in one swipe.

Icarium's arrows - Made from the Jaghut tree's branches, each arrow has a warren carved into it. We're not really clear on what this means other than being shot by one would suck.

Mappo's Mace - Basically an invested t-rex thigh bone. Smashes stuff real good.

Brood's Hammer - Can wake Burn. Which is apparently a bad thing. Also, smashes stuff real good.

Kallor's Big Ass Sword - It's big, it can cut through dragons, and it's as old as he is, which is saying alot.

Bauchelain and Korbal Broach's two handed swords - We don't really learn much about these but they use them efectively aaginst undead Kell Hunters and honestly, would you expect these two to carry 'normal' weapons?

Brukhalian's sword - Empowered by Fener, it can cut a Jaghut/Herald of Death in the face.

Gethol's swords - It's not really clear whether these were empowered by Hood or Gethol himself, but since a 'Herald of Death' wouldn't be carrying around 'ordinary' big ass Jaghut weapons, here they are.

Gruntle's cutlasses - They're big. They cut stuff. They have tiger stripes!

Karsa's Bloodwood sword - sort of a catch-all for any Teblor weapons, kind of like Tool's sword for the Imass weapons. They are big sharp pieces of wood made from trees that grow in otataral-rich soil. For good measure they're smeared in bloodoil, which means MORE otataral. Self-repairs nicks and dents and does really weird things to horses and people who smell them. We won't dwell on just who is standing around sniffing Teblor swords...

The Rope's rope - This is a tricky one. technically the 'rope' we see in HoC is a shadowstuff construct, but Dancer used a rope as a weapon before he ever ascended, so it's here but it's sort of a shady entry (heehee, see what i did there?).

Vengeance/Grief - Forged by Rake, then went to Andarist, then Traveller/Dessembrae. Makes a wielder of 'singular will' almost invulnerable. Still impressive for lesser people.

Bairoth Delum - Two handed stone sword made by Karsa. Invested by the Unbound to be unbreakable. Karsa's original two companions' ghosts live in it. so to speak.

Kalam's long knives - Acquired in HoC, the Wickan long knives are described as being as big as a short sword, so here they are. One has otataral and was invested/made by Bellurdan. Stabs things really well. Negates magic.

Rhulad's sword - Made by Withal from shards of Silchas Ruin's two short swords that were shattered by a Matron just before he was betrayed by Scabby Bloodeye, this fine piece of work fights for the wielder, and links them to the Crippled God so that they die and come back to life, each time stronger and more skilled. And crazy. Presumably broken by Withal at the end of RG.

The Seguleh Second/Soldier(Knight) of Death's spear - It 'sweats' when a convergence is happening (ew) and can pierce a Hound of Shadow. Apparently also serves as a homing beacon for the Soldier/Knight.

Glory Goat and Sarat Wept - two 'cursed' Letherii blue steel swords Brys and the Ceda gave to Silchas Ruin. They 'moan' when struck on steel - Goat apprently sounds like adying goat, go figure. Self-sharpening and self-healing of nicks and dents as long as they have enough material. Sarat was supposed to shatter when its wielder died, but didn't.

Greymane's stone sword - appears to be linked to Burn in some way similar to Brood's hammer. Greymane can just 'summon' it from nowehere, unclear if this is an ability of him or the sword.

Kyle's first sword - an ordinary long sword but 'blessed' by an avowed mage with an air symbol. carries Osserc in it for a while before it breaks.

Osserc's sword - big shiny glowing blade that cuts through just about anything. Ossi gave this to Kyle to replace his earlier sword.

Rill's two longswords - originally wielded by a champion of Li Heng, Rill took these when Rylandaras was released and carried them through the book. they don't break, which is impressive considering some of the stuff he does with them.

Skinner's poison sword - unclear whether this is actually an invested weapon similar to his armour from Ardata, or Skinner just smears poo on the blade to be extra evil. The former seems more likely.

Spinnock Durav's longsword - a Hust blade, may have been broken by Kallor, tho being a Hust blade, it may grow back.

Ruthan Gudd's Stormrider sword - appears to give the wielder 'ice' magic, tho' it is damn cold and can kill them. Seems to react to sorcery.

The Watch's Hust blade - wielded by either Rake or Ruin, tossed in the sea when it broke but it grew back and was claimed by the Watch.

Rilk - Ublala's axe. Made from dragon parts.

Draconus' sword - it's not really clear in DoD just what it does but it's described as a great big black nasty thing and he basically conjures it, so here it is.

[Malaclypse]

Cougar, on 30 October 2009 - 03:56 PM, said:

Malaclypse, on 30 October 2009 - 03:38 PM, said:

Smoky scribbling a sigil on a weapon to give it cool aspected powers is awesome - I wonder what the range of choices is? he seemed pretty nonchalant about it like it was no big deal...

Is it possible that smoky scribbling on it actually had very little effect, but rather, due to the nature of the sigil, drew the attention of Osric?

Possible, but decidedly less fun than the alternative...Of course it was a special situation with Osserc being in the immediate vicinity but even a minor enchantment applied so easily is a cool addition to the repertoire of mages in the Malazan world.

@Abyss: That Galayn Lord used an axe. Just because I like the description, here's the quote:

Quote

A twelve-foot-tall creature shambled down the middle of the road,
hunched shoulders wrapped in a glittering cape with a high cowl. A
two-bladed axe was slung in its wide dragon-hide belt, its handle as
long as Kalam was tall. The creature’s wide, squat face held two slitted
eyes.

[Hetan]

Just re-read the bit about the Seguleh 2nd's lance (not spear) - it flares with heat, sweats and trembles in Cutter's hand.

Also looking at the bit about Seren and the Imass spear. It is indicated that it is special, but in the end it doesn't appear to do anything except get buried with Trull.

[Mael]

Did Tool switch weapons when he became mortal or does he still carry the same sword he did before?

In MoI Lady Envy tells Toc the younger that Tools sword is invested to "an appalling degree" (By Kilava Oonass, a mortal bonecaster)making it unbreakable and it can cut through wards as though they didn't exist. She then goes on to talk about how Tool is far more powerful then your average T'lan Imass. Tools Sword is far more powerful then your average Imass weapon. Toc's stone weapons were made by Tool which probably accounts for them being more powerful then your standard Imass stone weapon as well.