[Fener]

Mockra:

Recently, lots of "oh, nothing is happening posts" - can't blame you there, we've all been moaning about it.Though "Oh, nothing is happening, said I'd check back, leaving now" is not exactly encouraging participation!

Mockra, on May 29 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

Shadow, on May 30 2009, 12:12 AM, said:

Hi, I'm here! Seems yesterday was pretty eventful, I'm sorry I wasn't my usual overactive self! Nothing much I can say about the deceased that hasn't already been said, so on to the curretn stuff! I'm somewhat down with the starting of this Mockra case, he really doesn't seem to match his actions to his words very well, like he's saying whatever necessary to avoid suspicion but voting the way he wants to to fulfill his own agenda.

Oh and for Liosan I'd point out that Sil only had 2 votes when you claim the big "switcheroo" forced you to switch to him, the other 3 that came in rapid succession all came after your switch! There was only 2 hours on the clock though, so for now this isn't really that indicative of anything malicious, I'm just pointing it out.

I don't match my actions to my words?.. What do you mean by that..
You say I want to fulfil my own agenda.. do you think my voting for Telas then going offline and Telas being lynched was of my own agenda? Do you think voting for Sil as my Emur case wasn't going anywhere was my agenda? You don't seem to make much sense.. right now all I see if you making noise about nothing to make it seem like you are doing something productive..
There seems to be alot of talk about me and many of you say you are going to read my posts etc but im not sure how many of you have..

Moaning post.

Mockra, on May 29 2009, 07:55 AM, said:

Well I see there has been much discussion around my suspicions tongue.gif
I can't help it if scum feels the people I find suspicious are more innocent..
I was planning to go after Emur today but since he has been picked off, I might read into this Amp case

Says he'll look at Amp, nothing happens. But yeah, a bit of fuss has been made over the fact that everyone you suspect has died.

Mockra, on May 29 2009, 04:56 AM, said:

Ruse, on May 29 2009, 08:50 PM, said:

Going through mockras posts one thing i noticed is that he has voted for Ehmur, telas and silanah. And his only other two main suspects have been Tellan and korlat.

anyone else see the trend?


other than that he has been pretty quiet and not really confrontational.
Dunno...

Tennes? I don't remember that...
So far all my suspects have been lynched or nkd.. Im at a loss. I had a feeling that Emur was a symp so I might look into his posts.

This is interesting, because once again, Mockra didn't follow up on his "I'll look into..." statement.

Mockra, on May 29 2009, 12:52 AM, said:

Time is against us.. seems I must change my vote for a chance of a lynch.
Remove Vote
Vote Silanah

Didn't want to vote Silanah, but changed to get lynch.

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 10:15 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Huh, 15 minutes and no answer. Well, I'm going to leave now, probably for the night. I may check back before heading for bed. I doubt if I'll be casting a vote this day, as there has been nothing to vote on. I still think Meanas has been symping Silanah, but I have no evidence to back up a vote. Which means, probably no lynch. I'm gonna go pray for a more productive day tomorrow. Adios muchachos.

Well I find it interesting that you don't want to cast a vote on Emur but you won't cast it on anybody else..
If you don't like the case in front of you, vote for someone else..

Fair enough, this is a good point. Then again, there is nothing wrong with pointing out that all the existing cases are shit.

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

Well we have approx. 4 Hours left I believe and are nowhere near a lynch. For now im going to leave my vote on Emur unless something with substance turns up...
Vote Emurlahn

More of Mockra's belief that you should vote for someone no matter what. Would have to check where other people had votes at the time to see if this was trying for a lynch or not.

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 07:57 PM, said:

Wow this game does not have much activity...
Not sure when the last time was that we heard from HP...
Somehow I feel we are getting nowhere with all this discussion, it seems everyone is suspicious of those who attack them. Right now I am more inclined to vote for Emur for stiring shit up and thinking he knows what everything should be like.. If everyone played a certain role the same way, every game would be the same. His constant talking of symps may also be him signaling his role to his masters.

But hey, at least he had a reason to vote Emur. Same reason I didn't like Emur's posts. Though his later post above could be considered to say this has no substance, I don't think that's what Mockra meant - just that if there was something with "more" substance.

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 03:53 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 28 2009, 07:25 PM, said:

You showed up in time for me to be pretty much worthless, Ruse. But, I've got a little bit of time left to talk.

Also, I'm not pleased with the Mockra bail.

Oh im sorry that I don't have the time to sit around on a computer waiting for posts on a forum.. I have better things to do.
I don't care much for any case right now, slow game is slow.

You, sir, had better have had a vote on someone when you said this!

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 02:37 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 28 2009, 06:29 PM, said:

That comment being?

"Hope I'm not wrong?"? That one?

Edit: You are not alone (for now), but I'm going to be reading other stuff on the forum while I'm waiting to discuss.

Yes that one.
It seems like extra effort to ride off his train vote to make a bad lynch have nothing to do with him. Either a scum tactic or just wants to stay out of the limelight by not providing any original thoughts.

I don't think many people have provided original thoughts in this game, you included. Hell, probably me included. *sigh*

Mockra, on May 28 2009, 02:13 AM, said:

Well I didn't expect to see such a large train start on Telas like that but I guess we were pressed for time. Sorry for the inactivity today, been pretty busy...
With 2 deaths, 18 players and the game being heavy roled I suspect that there are 2 killers and 1-2 symps. Symps might be all knowing or 1 for each killer. I doubt that anyone used their vig on day 1..
Tennes' kill seemed a little off but I guess the Korlat one isn't as surprising as he was pretty out there.
With Korlat and Telas gone I don't really have anything to go on..

Balance spec.
Both his suspects gone, so nothing to go on for the moment.

Mockra, on May 27 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

Well im off again and won't be back before the deadline
Vote Telas
For useless posts really...

Votes Telas for his 'useless posts'

Mockra, on May 27 2009, 08:07 AM, said:

Wow I didn't realize we only have 6 hours until day ends... it has been a really slow day 1.
I do hope we get a lynch by then but it seems we won't get enough votes in time. Right now I either wish to lynch Korlat based on a gut feeling that he is scum hiding in plain sight or Telas for his mindless posts.

Useless posts and hiding in plain sight are the offences judged unworthy by Mockra.

And that's it.

So, here's my thing with Mockra - all his suspects have died. He also has not made any cases, offered any 'original thoughts', or really done much other than complain and vote. Now, either he's 'hiding in plain sight', or is just plain lazy/bored.

I'm not sure what to make of Mockra, really. There is nothing...incriminating...in his posts. But then...I don't know. You just seem like you're doing all the stuff you tell other people not to at the same time.

[Mockra]

Well Fener that seems to be an interesting look into me. So far I have been the first vote on a lynch train and made a case on Emur which I abandoned so we could reach a lynch. I never said I didn't want to vote for Sil, I just prefered Emur. If I didn't say anything when I say I looked into someones posts, generally thats because I could not find anything... who can blame me at this point, we seem to be going around in circles. It is looking like today we will be lynching D'riss in a mad rush near the end of day though Im not too sure on what the case is...
Today I decided I wouldn't make any outstanding suspicions as it seems to be a homocide post for the one I talk of

[Fener]

Well, for the D'riss thing, find Hood's Path's last few posts - he also links to the analysis of D'riss' quotes I did.

It's not strong, and the above on you may well be stronger. I'll be back before deadline tomorrow though - I'm going for sleep now.

[Korvalain]

Mockra, on May 30 2009, 07:31 AM, said:

Well Fener that seems to be an interesting look into me. So far I have been the first vote on a lynch train and made a case on Emur which I abandoned so we could reach a lynch. I never said I didn't want to vote for Sil, I just prefered Emur. If I didn't say anything when I say I looked into someones posts, generally thats because I could not find anything... who can blame me at this point, we seem to be going around in circles. It is looking like today we will be lynching D'riss in a mad rush near the end of day though Im not too sure on what the case is...
Today I decided I wouldn't make any outstanding suspicions as it seems to be a homocide post for the one I talk of

I don't have a problem with what you have done so far, Mockra. It's what you haven't done. FFS, try to make a case on somebody, I don't care how bad it is, mine are horrific, but it provides information. That is all we want. That is all we are asking for.

[Gamelon]

Finally got some time to post now. Thread is still pretty slow, but we got about 8 or so hours to go.

I see we got cases on D'riss and Mockra. I think I prefer the Mockra one more, the D'riss one doesn't seem to have any evidence, its a lack of evidence one. Although the Mockra one is only slightly better. I still don't like his Day 1 vote on Telas which started things off.

Anyway going to go look back at Tellan first and see how my time goes. Seems a good time for case building. That said there isn't a lot of evidence on anyone.

[Gamelon]

Ok I've read through Tellan. He hasn't manage to cast a vote yet all game so hasn't been on any train.

And the only thing on note about him is he got into a pissing fight with Ruse over almost nothing. There's not a lot else though. He seemed very defensive when Ruse accused him of symping Shadow and accusing Korlat.

This is the post which started the minor spat.

Tellan said:

OK, i've tried to concentrate...there's psuedosilly-cases on Kesso and Korlat, and sort of kinda not really suspicion of Shadow from Korlat. Shadow who has the most votes so far. Well, I wouldn't say that 3 joke votes out of 9 serious ones needed is something to get uppity about, as Korlat suggest, which makes me think Korlat is trying to add more pressure to Shadow by suggesting there's actually something serious there....

And from there Ruse accused him of symping Shadow, which I'm not sure he actually does. And Tellan defends himself vigerously from Ruses accusations.

So really nothing much on Tellan No votes I don't like, Killers often do not like to vote in case it all goes wrong and they stick out.

He also doesn't have a lot of content, outside the pissing match with Ruse, there's not much else outside some suspicions of Mockra which are quite valid.

All in all not really much to go on. Would like to hear more from him though.

[Path-Shaper]

about 6 hours left

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

2 votes for D'riss: ( Hood's Path, Fener )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

[Liosan]

damn, not a lot of time left
and I must leave, b/c I have a footy game soon, and probably won't be back till deadline.

not too sure about the D'riss case, tbh.
I'l do a quick re-read of his posts, but unsure which way i'll vote yet.

[Liosan]

ok, having re-read D'riss, don't really see anything spectacularly lynch worthy there.

think I'll keep my vote on Amp.

back at some point later in the day.

[Gamelon]

I think I'm going to have to go Mockra, time is running out. There's not a lot in either really or anyone else for that matter.
I didn't like Mockras day 1 Telas vote, and outside that there is not a lot else but its just slightly more than D'riss


I'll be around for a little bit longer and see if anything else comes out. I've done some rereads but I haven't managed to find anything at the moment.


Vote Mockra

[Korvalain]

Just sliding by, contributing some, without causing any problems. A perfect slide-by killer.

Vote Fener

[Gamelon]

Do you have anything to back that up Korv in a case? The voting is currently very split and we haven't got much chance of a lynch at this rate. I have been uhmming about Fener for a little bit he was my next reread. I presume you've just reread him, so is there a case, or more gut?

[D'riss]

Morning all. I see I have two votes. I have read over all of the cases and don't think the case on Ampelas is strong enough to vote.

Both Mockra and Fener have played the 'busy and skirting' cards, so I would not be opposed at all to voting either. Obviously the Mockra case from Fener is fairly well developed but the Korv vote on Fener is little more than a one-liner.

So for the time being

Vote Mockra

[Korvalain]

Gamelon, on May 30 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Do you have anything to back that up Korv in a case? The voting is currently very split and we haven't got much chance of a lynch at this rate. I have been uhmming about Fener for a little bit he was my next reread. I presume you've just reread him, so is there a case, or more gut?

It comes from simply playing clean. Fener has researched players. I'll give him/her that, but has not really weighed in on them, or anything else as well. Slightly helpful, makes no waves.... it is just perfect killer behavior.

[Korvalain]

Mockra has been pushed into confrontations, and has not shied away from them. As inno, do we look for confrontational players? No. We look for smooth operators. People who hide in the mix without making too much noise.

[Tellan]

Gamelon, on May 30 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

Ok I've read through Tellan. He hasn't manage to cast a vote yet all game so hasn't been on any train.

And the only thing on note about him is he got into a pissing fight with Ruse over almost nothing. There's not a lot else though. He seemed very defensive when Ruse accused him of symping Shadow and accusing Korlat.

This is the post which started the minor spat.

Tellan said:

OK, i've tried to concentrate...there's psuedosilly-cases on Kesso and Korlat, and sort of kinda not really suspicion of Shadow from Korlat. Shadow who has the most votes so far. Well, I wouldn't say that 3 joke votes out of 9 serious ones needed is something to get uppity about, as Korlat suggest, which makes me think Korlat is trying to add more pressure to Shadow by suggesting there's actually something serious there....

And from there Ruse accused him of symping Shadow, which I'm not sure he actually does. And Tellan defends himself vigerously from Ruses accusations.

So really nothing much on Tellan No votes I don't like, Killers often do not like to vote in case it all goes wrong and they stick out.

He also doesn't have a lot of content, outside the pissing match with Ruse, there's not much else outside some suspicions of Mockra which are quite valid.

All in all not really much to go on. Would like to hear more from him though.

Yes, I haven't had much opportunity to be online recently, unfortunately. Normally I've been on during the beginning part of the day and at night, which is my explanation for not placing a single vote yet. Having said that, I will do so now. I have a suspicion that Emur was killed because he was getting far too close to nailing the killers with his guesses, and I think those people were Lio, D'riss and Ruse. Out of those, it's D'riss and Ruse which stick out for me (and no, Ruse not only for my arguments with him).

As there is a case on D'riss which suggests Ruse is his symp, I will

Vote D'riss

[Tellan]

Korvalain, on May 30 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

Gamelon, on May 30 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Do you have anything to back that up Korv in a case? The voting is currently very split and we haven't got much chance of a lynch at this rate. I have been uhmming about Fener for a little bit he was my next reread. I presume you've just reread him, so is there a case, or more gut?

It comes from simply playing clean. Fener has researched players. I'll give him/her that, but has not really weighed in on them, or anything else as well. Slightly helpful, makes no waves.... it is just perfect killer behavior.

Well, the only reason Fener raised my eyebrows is from the below post. Made me think for a second that he was just pretending - 'oh, someone died, as an inno I have no interest in killing people and therefore don't remember who was killed.' But for the moment my gut says there's something in the D'riss/Ruse thing.

Fener, on May 30 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

Wait....Korlat died? Fuck. This is what happens to me when I develop memory loss at 18.

Scratch him off my list of looking-ats then. XD

[Korvalain]

Remove Vote.

I'm on my own again.

Between Mockra and D'riss, I side on D'riss.

[Tellan]

Yes, though I brought up the point about Mockra, his association with all the people who have died would be fairly silly scum behaviour....or genius!

[Korvalain]

Silly. Scum wouldn't do that, knowingly. Especially, considering I think there are multiple killers, and therefore, they could interchange on trains.

Edit: I might still be drunk. Ok. Check that. Yes... I'm still drunk.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 30 May 2009 - 04:10 PM