[Kessobahn]

I won't be on then, I need to be in bed in little over an hour. I wouldn't call anything that's been said about Emu so far to be a case, nor do I really believe I understand the motivations for wanting to lynch him. It seems to me he's being accused of not being scummy because he didn't vote? I don't get it.

[Kessobahn]

Huh, 15 minutes and no answer. Well, I'm going to leave now, probably for the night. I may check back before heading for bed. I doubt if I'll be casting a vote this day, as there has been nothing to vote on. I still think Meanas has been symping Silanah, but I have no evidence to back up a vote. Which means, probably no lynch. I'm gonna go pray for a more productive day tomorrow. Adios muchachos.

[Mockra]

Well we have approx. 4 Hours left I believe and are nowhere near a lynch. For now im going to leave my vote on Emur unless something with substance turns up...
Vote Emurlahn

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Huh, 15 minutes and no answer. Well, I'm going to leave now, probably for the night. I may check back before heading for bed. I doubt if I'll be casting a vote this day, as there has been nothing to vote on. I still think Meanas has been symping Silanah, but I have no evidence to back up a vote. Which means, probably no lynch. I'm gonna go pray for a more productive day tomorrow. Adios muchachos.

Well I find it interesting that you don't want to cast a vote on Emur but you won't cast it on anybody else..
If you don't like the case in front of you, vote for someone else..

[Hood's Path]

D'riss, on May 28 2009, 06:37 PM, said:

Busy day and pretty tied up tonight, so I can't offer much, but I should be on before the lynch.

I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?

Vote Emurlahn

Echoing what Mockra says, too, if all roles played the game you thought it should be played, we'd win the game easy every time over scum.

Okay, this vote rubbed me all kinds of wrong ways. I know time is getting late, but it looks like you're trying to power a train on pure bullshit. Emur voted for Sil because of the way he worded his vote yesterday, something you already pointed out as scummy:

D'riss, on May 27 2009, 08:25 AM, said:

Most of the Telas votes are pretty simple... it starts around his semi-useless posts (acts helpful but then isn't?), gains momentum from people who want to make sure we get a lynch and from simple self-preservation.

Only thing I saw that interested me in the votes so far is:

Silanah, on May 27 2009, 06:56 AM, said:

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.


Edit: Sil, a speed lynch might be possible if we had a remotely active game, but it's pretty slow.

Edit: Sil, if what you say is correct, I think we would get most information from lynching Telas then, would you agree?

Hmm fair enough. I gotta go, so just in case

Vote Telas

Hopefully I won't regret this.

Underlined a pretty odd thing to say, as others have already pointed out.

Looking through the rest of your posts, I find a lot of nothing, a couple posts trying hard to convince people the second kill was a vig (slightly suspicious, though I also threw out a theory on that), and then you get into a random fight with Emur, at the end of which you call him a symp, and then...vote for him? 'Cause voting for symps gets us somewhere?

Ugh, I feel like I am going to look like I'm symping Emur now, but it's getting late in the day, and it's the only thing I've found after a lot of looking.

Vote D'riss

edit: and cross-post with a continuation of the train...I type slowly

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 29 May 2009 - 02:20 AM

[Silanah]

Hood's Path, on May 28 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

I am one of those anons. I've been reading through the thread to come up with something, but this has yielded a frustratingly small amount of fruit. After seeing Sil's vote on Emur, I went back and looked at his posts again...

Do you have anything on Emur aside from his protest of the Telas lynch, Sil?

The only thing I found odd was this:

Emurlahn, on May 28 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 28 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

Also, based on what the Shadow case indicates, Kesso would have to be the master for Shadow to have known to respond. Were he the symp, how would Shadow have known to make this "signaling" response?

edit: durr got names backward.

Of course, none of this makes sense - who Symps openly on Day 1, such that we wind up noticing? No one - it's all interplay, a lot of it spam, a bit more of it meta, and none of it adds up to guilt.

Good Symps stir shit up, clutter the thread with stuff that's on-topic but utter nonsense, and lead people down bad lines of reasoning. I had Tennes and Korlat pegged for that on Day 1, and Ruse is giving that vibe now.

I'm confused as to why he claimed Tennes was stirring shit up yesterday when he really only had a handful of posts. I get a small vibe that it's like he's not really looking for scum. It's like, "Who did I think were scum? Umm, oh, ah, yeah, those dead people over there. Guess I was wrong."

edit: cross-post with Mockra, wondering where I am

Um HP I mentioned exactly that a few posts further up from yours.

edit: To be specific that's post #484.

And I'm off to bed. My vote still stands; your omgus vote does nothing to refute that silly no-vote (which I admit is not exactly scummy). Tbh I don't like it that much, but it's the most I can come up with at the moment.

This post has been edited by Silanah: 29 May 2009 - 02:23 AM

[Meanas]

Silanah, on May 28 2009, 10:20 PM, said:

Um HP I mentioned exactly that a few posts further up from yours.

edit: To be specific that's post #484.

And I'm off to bed. My vote still stands; your omgus vote does nothing to refute that silly no-vote (which I admit is not exactly scummy). Tbh I don't like it that much, but it's the most I can come up with at the moment.

Now see, thats fucking twice you've said that shit. I caught up, don't think Emur is a better candidate than Sil, going to bed, be back in 10 hours or so. Kess, your OMGUS case on me symping Sil is weak, and this is why

Vote Sil

HP, thats twice you have dropped my name as if I am scum, make a case or something, the name dropping shit is getting old, Night guys.

Editted to remove the HP quote.

Later

This post has been edited by Meanas: 29 May 2009 - 02:33 AM

[Hood's Path]

Silanah, on May 28 2009, 07:20 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 28 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

I am one of those anons. I've been reading through the thread to come up with something, but this has yielded a frustratingly small amount of fruit. After seeing Sil's vote on Emur, I went back and looked at his posts again...

Do you have anything on Emur aside from his protest of the Telas lynch, Sil?

The only thing I found odd was this:

Emurlahn, on May 28 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 28 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

Also, based on what the Shadow case indicates, Kesso would have to be the master for Shadow to have known to respond. Were he the symp, how would Shadow have known to make this "signaling" response?

edit: durr got names backward.

Of course, none of this makes sense - who Symps openly on Day 1, such that we wind up noticing? No one - it's all interplay, a lot of it spam, a bit more of it meta, and none of it adds up to guilt.

Good Symps stir shit up, clutter the thread with stuff that's on-topic but utter nonsense, and lead people down bad lines of reasoning. I had Tennes and Korlat pegged for that on Day 1, and Ruse is giving that vibe now.

I'm confused as to why he claimed Tennes was stirring shit up yesterday when he really only had a handful of posts. I get a small vibe that it's like he's not really looking for scum. It's like, "Who did I think were scum? Umm, oh, ah, yeah, those dead people over there. Guess I was wrong."

edit: cross-post with Mockra, wondering where I am

Um HP I mentioned exactly that a few posts further up from yours.

edit: To be specific that's post #484.

And I'm off to bed. My vote still stands; your omgus vote does nothing to refute that silly no-vote (which I admit is not exactly scummy). Tbh I don't like it that much, but it's the most I can come up with at the moment.

Hmm, so you did.

To be honest, I've been focusing more on posts from the lower posters, as that is where it seems like the scum is more likely to hide in the given circumstances, so I guess I've glossed over a couple of your posts. Whoops.

edit: extra comma

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 29 May 2009 - 02:34 AM

[Meanas]

That was a cross post HP, Im still here for a minute if you want to discuss. Quickly though, I need to get laid in a minute and the door to that may close quickly if I am still on the comp

[Meanas]

Ok then sex > mafia

[Hood's Path]

Well, the second name drop was used as more of a demonstration as to the weirdness of mention Tennes as a big shit-stirrer-upper. I was following Emur's argument that people that stir things up are scum, not necessarily agreeing with it.

[Liosan]

vote Ampelas

doing the re-read of the Telas train, and Silanah's vote (number 4) comes after "convincing" by Amp. in this, he makes sure to distance himself from an inno lynch.

the second on my list would be Kesso.

[Emurlahn]

D'riss, on May 28 2009, 06:37 PM, said:

Busy day and pretty tied up tonight, so I can't offer much, but I should be on before the lynch.

I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?

Vote Emurlahn

Wow, none of that makes any sense. You really haven't read anything I've written.

I didn't vote for Telas, because it was a really stupid non-case.

I'm voting for Silanah because they pushed an asinine case at a crucial time without any substantial argument, conviction, or rationale. And now, I'm supposedly suspicious for not pretending that it was all a great thing.

I've already said all this.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 2 hours and 27 minutes are left.

15 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Silanah, Tellan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for D'riss: ( Hood's Path )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )
2 votes for Silanah: ( Emurlahn, Meanas )
1 vote for Shadow: ( Kessobahn )
3 votes for Emurlahn: ( Silanah, D'riss, Mockra )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Fener, Gamelon, Korvalain, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

-Shinrei, keeping an eye on things for a couple of hours.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 May 2009 - 03:50 AM

[Korvalain]

What in the fuck? I leave and come back and the same page is still up?

Anyways, I'm going to look at these votes, and see if any of them sing to me.

Edited: Because Shin's time lies! Liar! We only have what, two hours?

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 29 May 2009 - 03:37 AM

[Path-Shaper]

What the hell? You're right. Apparently mafia manager lies, but I swear that's what it says.

Ok, I'll do the math in my head and edit that.


Edited: The time is now correct.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 May 2009 - 03:45 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 2 hours and 15 minutes are left.

15 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Silanah, Tellan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for D'riss: ( Hood's Path )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )
2 votes for Silanah: ( Emurlahn, Meanas )
1 vote for Shadow: ( Kessobahn )
3 votes for Emurlahn: ( Silanah, D'riss, Mockra )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Fener, Gamelon, Korvalain, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

[D'riss]

Well time is winding down and no lynch seems likely. Best I can see is the current tension between Sil and Emur over Sil's case/non-case. Emur is a bit of a crybaby over my constant attention to his case, but I suppose the squeaky wheel gets the grease today.

Remove Vote
Vote Silanah

[Korvalain]

At this point, I would vote for any of the following:

1. Ampelas: If you read, right before he voted for Telas, he was talking about how stupid the case was. There was plenty of time to build a different case at that point.
2. Silanah: For underlined post which made one hell of a discordant note while I was going back through that string.

I am not going to vote for Emurlahn. His principles actually DO make sense, if you realize that earlier in the game he said he would vote for #4 on the lynch train.

I'll be on til lynch time comes. Jesus. We need some fucking activity on here.

I want to see some action by Tennes, Tellan, Hood's Path, Gamelon, and Fener. We need action from you so that we can concentrate on others without worrying about you. We cannot judge what we haven't seen.

Edited: To add after "Fener"... screwed up my post.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 29 May 2009 - 04:05 AM

[Gamelon]

Sorry I'm here! Just super busy at work unfortunately. I've read the thread at the moment.

Looking at it we have 4 cases.
Emurlahn: We both had the same position, the Telas case/lynch was a joke and weren't going to vote on it. And now apparently that makes his suspicious. Not sure why i'm not, but meh. Obviously not a voter for me.

D'riss: Slightly more interesting, but its just a not a lot on him type of thing.

Ampelas is more interesting. I thought both him and Meanas have both been a little pushy. Meanas has struck me as symp like sometimes. He's been the one trying ot get things going. If you look at Day 1, he had a case on Liosan with a vote and no one seemed to respond to it. As soon as Mockra put a vote on Telas, Meanas jumped straight on. And has been quite aggresive. Ampelas not quite as pushy but he was also going for the Telas lynch.

Silanah: There's been a couple little things on him, and if Meanas was symping him he's either bluffing dangerously and thinking we won't lynch or Meanas isn't actually symping him. I might reread him, i'm leaning his way for a vote at the moment.