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Mafia 44 Spoilers people behind bars aren't in prison

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:42 PM

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a)Well not that it matters, but I'm not gay. I'm hetero and married, you goober.

b)Second, I see your reply but I can't see why you'd accept advanced provisionals. Basically, the killers could give you a giant list of how they want to kill over the next 3 days and then non-post their way to victory.

c)Yes, late-game guards ARE valuable, especially since baudin the healer got whacked so early by accident.

d)But man, they totally are getting sucked out right now. Telas MUST find a killer tonight and hopefully tomorrow to make a case against both, and then hope the survivors can find the last guy (cuz lets face it, Telas will get killed the moment he reveals or even starts anything against the truth).



a) No I sir, am an ass

b)They can do the same thing by sending in a pm once a day, posting one time to say Real Life sucks and the same result. However, I wouldn't accept it on the fact that neither know that their first or second target won't get healed or lynched. Respectively

c) Unlucky but not unexpected

d) Not happening, I forsee one scum find, Telas revealing, getting NKed and then the innos lynching each other off.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:45 PM

Its official, Slick M. You don't know how to play finder. The thread says so.......

I disagree, you had a partner so no need to hide and keep quiet, but what do I know, I'm just a lousy mod.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:45 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

d) Not happening, I forsee one scum find, Telas revealing, getting NKed and then the innos lynching each other off.


I have told him to make sure he makes a case first and see who jumps on. Unfortunately, I think the killers are playing well enough to spot that and jump on first themselves.
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:47 PM

Also, Morgoth45 owes you an appology, you successfully investigated 3 scum. So he's wrong.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:47 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 07:45 PM, said:

Its official, Slick M. You don't know how to play finder. The thread says so.......

I disagree, you had a partner so no need to hide and keep quiet, but what do I know, I'm just a lousy mod.


It's a culture clash. Where I play regularly, i'm often attacked for being too quiet and friendly. :lol:
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:49 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

Also, Morgoth45 owes you an appology, you successfully investigated 3 scum. So he's wrong.


Yeah, finding promotable symps screws you up. But there's nothing you can do about it. The promotable symps make up for the strong good roles, if anything the innocents are overpowered.

You know, if they follow their reasoning to it's logical conclusion, i've PI'd Gamelon. So if i'm evil they should lynch him. :lol:
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:50 PM

Right now team inno has no chance unless they random guess they are on the wrong track completely... funny that the only person spouting this logic is Shadow and he's about to get lynched.

Assuming things stay as they are currently going, Shadow and Omtose go next and that puts Team Evil in a solid position because Ruse is not getting a single bit of traction from the bad guys (or the good for that matter, although that may change since Shadow has recently 'cleared' Ruse and Telas after a read-through and if Shadow comes up innocent, they may review his cases).

Anyway, after this day/night, the bad guys will be at a 3-to-7 ratio and right now Ruse/Tennes/Gamelon are at zero visibility.

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:50 PM

Have they even mentioned Shadow's pointing out of the "symp clue" to Mockra? No scum would ever do anything like that. Shadow is VPI. :lol:
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:52 PM

View PostPeanutbutta, on Apr 28 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?


I would say Ruse takes over. They have to lynch all scum to win.
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:57 PM

From the Game Thread, first hint of any read on Tennes. Will they see something alarming?

View PostSerc, on Apr 28 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

The theory amp put forward might also explain Meanas's initial code/signal thing, she was mentioning something that Shadow brought up, but let's try not to retcon info. I see Tennes hasnt had a reread done on him yet, I was going to but I think looking at Meanas's early game again might be a good move. Will check Tennes if I get time, my main motivation is that i cant really remember him saying anything significant. Not scummy in itself but he does seem to be cruising.

And the way emur keeps dropping from sight is maybe a little suspicious.


Ano sets his paired provisional on Gamelon.

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if the lynch starts really rushing even before shadow gets back we should remove our votes, not sure how much i will be on but dont let him lynch without talking, cause i want to see his claim. not only that he may givce us some useful info


Okay if it really starts going I will do my best to slow it down a bit. I was almost wondering if he buggered off just to avoid having to defend himself. I could be wrong, but it would be good to hear what he has to say.


i will leave it in your capable hands, dont slow it down, just remove your vote and say you want to hear from him, if everyone else jumps on the so be it. i am more confident about this one than the rest, but if shadow is scum i think we need to block gamelon. so provisional block gamelon?


I will assume Omtose will agree with you and have you set to provisionally guard Gamelon.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:12 PM

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

View PostPeanutbutta, on Apr 28 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?


I would say Ruse takes over. They have to lynch all scum to win.



Nope - Ruse will not get promoted until Tennes dies. since I made team inno so powerful I made sure that all team evil has to be lynched. either way, it will work out. But Ruse is Tennes's back up not Gamelons. Make sense?
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:17 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

View PostPeanutbutta, on Apr 28 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?


I would say Ruse takes over. They have to lynch all scum to win.



Nope - Ruse will not get promoted until Tennes dies. since I made team inno so powerful I made sure that all team evil has to be lynched. either way, it will work out. But Ruse is Tennes's back up not Gamelons. Make sense?


Yeah, makes sense. :lol:
"pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us – then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:29 PM

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 03:17 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

View PostPeanutbutta, on Apr 28 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?


I would say Ruse takes over. They have to lynch all scum to win.



Nope - Ruse will not get promoted until Tennes dies. since I made team inno so powerful I made sure that all team evil has to be lynched. either way, it will work out. But Ruse is Tennes's back up not Gamelons. Make sense?


Yeah, makes sense. :lol:


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Yes, the reason I asked is that if somehow Gamelon gets killed, the guards are suddenly super strong. Well, guard, since it will be down to Ano... and he's very likely to die tomorrow.

Also, does symp promotion happen immediately upon the master's death? Reason I ask is let's say Gamelon is targetted for guard and Tennes gets lynched today. Ruse isn't going to have a provisional in (ok he may target Shadow again) and what happens at night? Does Ruse automatically become the second in the pair and the provisional already in place from the previous pair will go through (meaning the guard doesn't do anything)?
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:44 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 03:29 PM, said:

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 03:17 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 28 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

View PostSlick Mongoose, on Apr 28 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

View PostPeanutbutta, on Apr 28 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

What happens if Gamelon is lynched? Does it then go down to 1 killer 1 symp or does Ruse take over the job?


I would say Ruse takes over. They have to lynch all scum to win.



Nope - Ruse will not get promoted until Tennes dies. since I made team inno so powerful I made sure that all team evil has to be lynched. either way, it will work out. But Ruse is Tennes's back up not Gamelons. Make sense?


Yeah, makes sense. :lol:


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Yes, the reason I asked is that if somehow Gamelon gets killed, the guards are suddenly super strong. Well, guard, since it will be down to Ano... and he's very likely to die tomorrow.

Also, does symp promotion happen immediately upon the master's death? Reason I ask is let's say Gamelon is targetted for guard and Tennes gets lynched today. Ruse isn't going to have a provisional in (ok he may target Shadow again) and what happens at night? Does Ruse automatically become the second in the pair and the provisional already in place from the previous pair will go through (meaning the guard doesn't do anything)?


The gaurd would not take. The killer gets lynched and that night the symp becomes the killer. The provisional by the gaurded killer would be in effect. So no kill would happen.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:45 PM

Ano thinks that Slick is chatting him up... I wonder if he'll get my seekrit G-14 classified coded message.

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if the lynch starts really rushing even before shadow gets back we should remove our votes, not sure how much i will be on but dont let him lynch without talking, cause i want to see his claim. not only that he may givce us some useful info


Okay if it really starts going I will do my best to slow it down a bit. I was almost wondering if he buggered off just to avoid having to defend himself. I could be wrong, but it would be good to hear what he has to say.


i will leave it in your capable hands, dont slow it down, just remove your vote and say you want to hear from him, if everyone else jumps on the so be it. i am more confident about this one than the rest, but if shadow is scum i think we need to block gamelon. so provisional block gamelon?


I will assume Omtose will agree with you and have you set to provisionally guard Gamelon.


slick hanving fun up there, he posts a few minutes after i pm you, wonder if i am a twit or a git :lol:


I have all the elite, young, over-achievers under discussion in backroom spoilers :p
Listening obviously, very eagerly, postmortem buddy.


Tennes and Gamelon consort about their plans.

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...and looks properly rushed, too :p

If people state I'm pushing all of a sudden, defense is easy: up to a point, the lynches were necessary, and defending anyone I was not certain of, outside of myself, I could well be defending scum that associated itself with Mockra - didn't want that, but kept an eye on who was being fingered when.
I should be able to argue my way out of that.

:D

I think Shadow will swing.


We can't forget about Ruse and Telas. They are both just slidding buy and every time someone brings them up they are able to get around it. Could be very scummy behavior. :p

Oh yes :D well, after tomorrow, with Shadow gone, we need new impulses to the game :D



Amp tried to lay down that I could be a possible symp as I voted for Emu while I was role playing. That is a bit of a stretch for anyone imagination. However he could be trying to set me up for a lynching later on in the game. I am pretty sure that if I am on I will be able to get around it. That is the trick though isn't it to attack people when they aren't on and get them lynched. Might be something to take back at Serc and co over the Shadow lynch. :p

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:46 PM

Oh those killers are so happy with themselves. Damn you sneaky killers!

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Bent I hope that you are putting all of our posts in to Heaven. :lol:


This is going to be comedy gold after the game. :D

Well, the joke's on us if we lose :p


It will still be funny though...smile.gif

Also I think that Obdi or Kurt is Emu. Someone said that the American were asleep and Emu spoke up and said that it was only 5pm what were they talking about. So if we want to rush him it will have to be from your time zone rather then from mine. I always wanted to ask you how is it that you are able to post so much when I am on. Aren't you in Denmark or somewere like that. ???

I am not Bent, but your posts are being reproduced faithfully... now with color commentary!


Also, they got one thing wrong!

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Is that you Gem... :p


It might be. It might not be!

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:23 PM

Serc/alt146 and I chat up software. He also easily IDs everybody he guesses.

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So Tellan is Mental, Ano is DiBs, Tehol is Omtose and Amp I would wager is M45 cos he joined late.

Think Tennes is Vengey - since Morgy mentioned he's a dirty boy (his words not mine lol) he's a lot easier to alt :lol:

Dont really know bout any of the others, Khell disappeared as I started playing so I got no idea who he plays with and most of the others are reasonably recent imports from other boards. Must say Shin is playing way better this time, noone has come across as noob this game.

Also, any new thoughts on the manager. Sorry to keep asking, but other than Ment you're the only person who's used it for a reasonable amount of time. It's damn slow when I use it, but I cant be sure if that's not just my crappy Saffer internet.


This isn't Bent but the manager has so far been snappy and responsive (NOT slow) and easy to use. Yes it's not glamorous or anything, but it doesn't need to be.

I'm actually a computer programmer who has a morbid fascination with "sweet-looking" software but let's face it, users want software that WORKS first. The glitz and glam can come second and should be nothing more than a slick veneer on the underlying functionality.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:41 PM

Hilarious how they go back and hang on my every word. :lol: And now they are going for Shadow. :Patch: I have to wonder if they'll let Serc go, or if they'll lynch him too. Funny how they have no ideas of their own at all. :D

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:47 PM

Bent, can you please respond to Anomandaris? He has a clarification question that I am unsure if I can discuss.

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I should have asked this earlier, but was mockra actually just an evil guard or was he a killer? you told me there couldnt be an evil guard, now i think i have been bvarking up the wrong tree.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:54 PM

Will do.
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