[Tiste Simeon]

QuickTidal, on 15 May 2021 - 05:26 PM, said:

Tsundoku, on 15 May 2021 - 11:00 AM, said:

Agreed. Ocean's 11 is great, 12 is utter 4th-wall breaking, smug shite and the 3rd is an insincere apology.

Counterpoint.

OCEANS 12 is a Perfect movie, and is arguably the best of the trilogy. And at no point does anyone break the 4th wall in it. It is a comfort watch, and one of my top ten best films of all time.

First thought: Oh, Apt, you're funny.
Second thought: wait, that's not Apt!

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 15 May 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

the heist is pulled off halfway through the film and no one knows and the rest is all wonderful pantomime while the true goal is to reunite Lemarc and his daughter.

See, this was my biggest problem with it. Obviously a good heist film hoodwinks the audience as well as the victim a bit but for me this hung on there just being too much we didn't know for too much of the film. Like we didn't even know reuinting Isabel with her father was even a possibility because the film told us he was dead- it made out that the main character goal for Isabel was reuiniting her with Rusty. The flipped heist too - even after LeTour says 'you talked to LaMarc' there's no chance of a dawning 'oh yeah I get it' moment as they show you.


Still, better than Ocean's 8, a highly glossy hot mess.

eta: I like 13 more but I agree it's not a great movie either. Suffers from some of the 3rd-Gentlemen-Bastards problem that it's a bunch of itty-bitty cons not one big one, and also is just a bit less joyful.

This post has been edited by polishgenius: 16 May 2021 - 09:49 AM

[QuickTidal]

I hate to say it, but Al Pacino sucks the air out of THIRTEEN.

[Aptorian]

Tiste Simeon, on 16 May 2021 - 03:32 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 15 May 2021 - 05:26 PM, said:

Tsundoku, on 15 May 2021 - 11:00 AM, said:

Agreed. Ocean's 11 is great, 12 is utter 4th-wall breaking, smug shite and the 3rd is an insincere apology.

Counterpoint.

OCEANS 12 is a Perfect movie, and is arguably the best of the trilogy. And at no point does anyone break the 4th wall in it. It is a comfort watch, and one of my top ten best films of all time.

First thought: Oh, Apt, you're funny.
Second thought: wait, that's not Apt!

I hated Oceans 12... Oh no, I've created a paradox!

[Tsundoku]

amphibian, on 16 May 2021 - 03:11 AM, said:

Laser dance scene means 12 is the best one. There is no valid counter argument.

Laserdance II: Electric Hullabaloo.

[Mezla PigDog]

I can't watch the Oceans movies as Oceans 11 reminds me of a very mortifying evening I had years ago. A housemate brought a girl home and they were going to watch Oceans 11. My housemate had a girlfriend and his guest had a boyfriend so I just assumed it was a friendship thing and hung around them all evening. After a few hours one of them went upstairs to the bathroom and didn't come back and then the other went up too. And I'm sat there watching Oceans 11 alone with the dawning realisation that I had been cock blocking them for ages. My housemate had even been dropping hints that had gone way over my head. Still, their partners would have been grateful at my naivety I assume.

[QuickTidal]

These movies are such a blast!

[Mezla PigDog]

I just watched Thunder Force on Netflix. Melissa McCarthy and Octavia Spencer. The gags aren't 100% hits but on balance it really made me laugh. Jason Bateman's character adds a layer of melted butter on top that makes it so silly. I liked it.

Four half-Korean's out of five.

Edit to add - I just read the reviews and they are really bad. And deservedly so I guess but it still made me laugh. Go into it after a long day and I think there is a lot to like.

This post has been edited by Mezla PigDog: 17 May 2021 - 09:18 PM

[Tiste Simeon]

Mezla PigDog, on 17 May 2021 - 09:12 PM, said:

I just watched Thunder Force on Netflix. Melissa McCarthy and Octavia Spencer. The gags aren't 100% hits but on balance it really made me laugh. Jason Bateman's character adds a layer of melted butter on top that makes it so silly. I liked it.

Four half-Korean's out of five.

Edit to add - I just read the reviews and they are really bad. And deservedly so I guess but it still made me laugh. Go into it after a long day and I think there is a lot to like.

I loved this film for the exact same reason. Really silly but good fun.

[QuickTidal]

ATTACK OF THE BLOCK sequel incoming! Woot! Love that movie.

https://deadline.com...sic-1234758463/

[QuickTidal]

Re-watched the 2001 TOMB RAIDER movie, and it still holds up as much as it ever did...but can we all agree that Jolie really was, at the time, the quintessential Lara Croft from a "look" angle? She also doesn't do a shabby English accent, and every outfit in the film is taken directly from the first two games. The second film is better mind you, but the first is still an enjoyable romp. Will be re-watching the second one soon too.

[paran falcon]

Briar King, on 19 May 2021 - 09:01 PM, said:

I just remembered that Revenge of the Sith came out 16 yrs ago today.

Carry on homies

Speaking of RotS, we watched someone's version of Revenge of the Sith with the final 4 Clone Wars episodes edited into it, which made it just under 4 hours. There are multiple versions of this, done by multiple people from what I understand. We had to pause just past halfway through and finish a couple nights later but I felt it was very much worth the watch. In fact, were it available to buy, I would get it and probably never watch RotS by itself again. There is a Jedi Council meeting that is edited back and forth between the show/movie more seamlessly than I would've thought possible. As I've said before, those Clone Wars eps add a ton to RotS, imo. The final scene from the Clone Wars is the final scene of the edit, as it should be.


Am I crazy for preferring the Ahsoka/Maul lightsaber duel to the Anakin/Obi Wan one?

[QuickTidal]

paran falcon, on 20 May 2021 - 12:56 PM, said:

Briar King, on 19 May 2021 - 09:01 PM, said:

I just remembered that Revenge of the Sith came out 16 yrs ago today.

Carry on homies

Speaking of RotS, we watched someone's version of Revenge of the Sith with the final 4 Clone Wars episodes edited into it, which made it just under 4 hours. There are multiple versions of this, done by multiple people from what I understand. We had to pause just past halfway through and finish a couple nights later but I felt it was very much worth the watch. In fact, were it available to buy, I would get it and probably never watch RotS by itself again. There is a Jedi Council meeting that is edited back and forth between the show/movie more seamlessly than I would've thought possible. As I've said before, those Clone Wars eps add a ton to RotS, imo. The final scene from the Clone Wars is the final scene of the edit, as it should be.


Am I crazy for preferring the Ahsoka/Maul lightsaber duel to the Anakin/Obi Wan one?

I would also buy it if available. SO GOOD.

The Maul Vs Ahsoka fight is easily better choreographed and has a weight to it from how threatened each feels in it...Obi-Wan VS Anakin has a weight of emotions if not the choreography. For me at least. So they are different fights with different stakes.

I LOVE the Maul VS Ahsoka fight though.

[paran falcon]

QuickTidal, on 20 May 2021 - 01:14 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 20 May 2021 - 12:56 PM, said:

Briar King, on 19 May 2021 - 09:01 PM, said:

I just remembered that Revenge of the Sith came out 16 yrs ago today.

Carry on homies

Speaking of RotS, we watched someone's version of Revenge of the Sith with the final 4 Clone Wars episodes edited into it, which made it just under 4 hours. There are multiple versions of this, done by multiple people from what I understand. We had to pause just past halfway through and finish a couple nights later but I felt it was very much worth the watch. In fact, were it available to buy, I would get it and probably never watch RotS by itself again. There is a Jedi Council meeting that is edited back and forth between the show/movie more seamlessly than I would've thought possible. As I've said before, those Clone Wars eps add a ton to RotS, imo. The final scene from the Clone Wars is the final scene of the edit, as it should be.


Am I crazy for preferring the Ahsoka/Maul lightsaber duel to the Anakin/Obi Wan one?

I would also buy it if available. SO GOOD.

The Maul Vs Ahsoka fight is easily better choreographed and has a weight to it from how threatened each feels in it...Obi-Wan VS Anakin has a weight of emotions if not the choreography. For me at least. So they are different fights with different stakes.

I LOVE the Maul VS Ahsoka fight though.

I had to ask. I'm such an Ahsoka fan that I couldn't tell if I was just being biased in her favor. As you say, the extenuating circumstances are different in the 2 duels. It is amazing that Ahsoka was willing to go up against Sidious WITH Maul, until he answered her Anakin question with the accusation that Anakin was the new apprentice. Another turning point that could've altered everything, much like Windu's "Citizen" crack prevented Ahsoka from revealing what she had learned to the Council...

[Slow Ben]

Duiuude. Either of you gotta link? I wanna watch that.

This post has been edited by Slow Ben: 20 May 2021 - 08:21 PM

[paran falcon]

Slow Ben, on 20 May 2021 - 08:21 PM, said:

Duiuude. Either of you gotta link? I wanna watch that.

I believe my daughter had to message or email the person that made the edit and they sent a link back to her. I can find out and will post.

[Slow Ben]

Sweet. Thanks PF

[paran falcon]

paran falcon, on 20 May 2021 - 08:30 PM, said:

Slow Ben, on 20 May 2021 - 08:21 PM, said:

Duiuude. Either of you gotta link? I wanna watch that.

I believe my daughter had to message or email the person that made the edit and they sent a link back to her. I can find out and will post.

As I understand it, send an email to

Spoiler

justiceforct5555@gmail.com

and an auto reply will have a link to access through google drive?

This post has been edited by paran falcon: 20 May 2021 - 11:02 PM

[Macros]

Briar King, on 20 May 2021 - 10:43 PM, said:

Is A Bridge To Far good?

Hmmm, yes and no.

A classic for sure with a fucking stellar class, held up against modern war films it can feel dated, with a few weak sections.

Still very much worth watching

[worry]

Army of the Dead:

Spoiler

Sorry to say, this was pretty bad overall. While the first half builds a lot of potential, the second half squanders payoffs at (nearly) every turn. Most ideas in this movie -- and there are some good ones to be sure -- start at Point A and end at Point A (while a few just fizzle out all together, like the social media thing). There are some laughably good comic moments (Tig Notaro is great, as are Raul Castillo and Omari Hardwick), and numerous laughably bad moments (any time the 'serious' score plays) -- and those aren't a matter of the acting, but the writing and other film-making decisions. I wouldn't fault anyone in the cast for how bad this movie gets in the second half.

That's because the worst aspect of this movie is the zombies -- absolutely awful in conception and execution. Not scary, not exciting, not interesting. They move around crouched or hopping on things like the background dancers in CATS, and they make pterodactyl noises. If they had been better antagonists, a lot of the other flaws could have been forgiven -- like who minds sketches of good ideas in an otherwise great action movie -- but they weren't.
One thing I genuinely appreciated (though sadly its among those A-->A ideas) was the internment camp. ZS didn't have to go there but he did. Maybe it's a low bar, but ZS going "I love guns and explosions in movies as much as next fella, but I'm not one of you T**mp sickos" is commendable. And there's kind of an unremarked upon inclusivity to the whole affair.
Anyway, maybe nobody's surprised to read my reaction if you got this far, but I was surprised, because I went in hoping to finally enjoy a ZS movie again.