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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:49 PM

I love dynasty warriors.

Yeh I have a PS2 available and have alwas wanted to play ROTK but didnt know it was released for PS2. Did anyone ever play Dynasty Tactics that was good.

Just checked Kingdom of Fire and t looks very similar to a game called Bladestorm for the xbox360 thats very similar to DW and made by the same people.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:19 PM

View PostFriendly Neighbourhood Spider-tiam, on 19 March 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

So ive done some reading and it seems the CandC games plus Halo Wars and Middle Earth 2 are the only games that are available. I shouldnt be surprised given the awkwardness of putting a PC format onto a console, where the money is, but there isnt really anything.

Anyone know of any old PC RTS/ strategy games with low specs that I could sink some time into


Empire Earth!

avqilable on GoG.com, it's basically another Age of Empires clone, with a bit of Civilization thrown in. VERY undemanding on PC, and if you head over to http://ee.heavengame...eeh/index.shtml, there is a TON of custom scenarios and campaigns to download for free, which can keep you entertained for days.

My absolute favourite would be Cossacks: European wars. It's also an AoE derivative, based around 16-18th Century European warfare. Despite being really old now, it was one of the first RTSs to really use the concept of formations, and it has superb naval combat (comparable to Empire: TW). Also now available on GoG, and alsofairly light on resources. I'd recommend grabbing the first expansion for it as well, since that comes with the scenario editor, and adds more single player campaighns. The second expansion is pretty "meh" though.

Also, try Age of Empires II.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

GoG is amazing for the stuff that they have on there. I'm not sure whether or not it's been brought up yet, but if you have Steam then I would really recommend Sins of a Solar Empire: Trinity. It's a fantastic space based rts.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

View PostTrull, on 28 March 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Has anyone managed to get a hold of Shogun 2 Fall of the samurai (TW stand-alone expansion)? I loved Shogun 2 (my second favorite in the series, after Rome of course). I'm not sure if I should dish out cash right away for this, as there seems to be a lot of change in terms of tech and political management. Less politics and more guns by the looks of it. To the players of TWEmpire, you understand how guns can fundamentally change the feel of the game. Looks good overall I guess, but I was hoping to get an opinion from the malazans if possible.

I bought it and have so far spent 15 minutes on it.
It seems both Imperialists and Shogun-supporters are going to tech up to guns, which was a bit of a pity. I also thought the amount of different units at your disposal is rather slim (1 each of sword, spear, bow foot units, several tiers of gun units including skirmishers, and each side a mounted gun men and a lancer unit, plus 3 or 4 foreign units which are basically all the same apart from a few point spreads (French foreign legion, British marines, US Marines). Fleets are likewise the same for each faction - Imperial factions have 1 "unique" elite gun unit each - I guess the same is true for the Shogunate factions, or maybe they have sword units to reflect a more traditional approach).

In vanilla Shogun 2, the lack of clan-unique units was fine because there was such an intricate balance between different type of units, but it seems in the add-on guns > other units. Which just calls for gun-toting units-spamming for your front line with maybe a unit or 3 of swordsmen to give you the edge if it comes to melee.

Imho, after the very little bit I've seen of it € 9.99 like the Napoleon add-on Spanish campaign would have been a decent price, certainly not € 29.99.

But, like I said, I played 2 turns and checked the tech tree and the upgrade tree for generals and the available agents. Once I sink some decent time into it, I may know more. Gotta finish Napoleon first to unlock several achievements, though - and maybe try and see if Empire looks better after Napoleon than it did before.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:50 PM

View PostMentalist, on 28 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

View PostFriendly Neighbourhood Spider-tiam, on 19 March 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

So ive done some reading and it seems the CandC games plus Halo Wars and Middle Earth 2 are the only games that are available. I shouldnt be surprised given the awkwardness of putting a PC format onto a console, where the money is, but there isnt really anything.

Anyone know of any old PC RTS/ strategy games with low specs that I could sink some time into


Empire Earth!

avqilable on GoG.com, it's basically another Age of Empires clone, with a bit of Civilization thrown in. VERY undemanding on PC, and if you head over to http://ee.heavengame...eeh/index.shtml, there is a TON of custom scenarios and campaigns to download for free, which can keep you entertained for days.

My absolute favourite would be Cossacks: European wars. It's also an AoE derivative, based around 16-18th Century European warfare. Despite being really old now, it was one of the first RTSs to really use the concept of formations, and it has superb naval combat (comparable to Empire: TW). Also now available on GoG, and alsofairly light on resources. I'd recommend grabbing the first expansion for it as well, since that comes with the scenario editor, and adds more single player campaighns. The second expansion is pretty "meh" though.

Also, try Age of Empires II.

Galactic Civilizations 2. If it's not on GoG, just create a Gamestop/ Impulse account and get it there. It is really, really awesome.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:48 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Europa Universalis 3 + expansions. when you've mastered that, get the magna mundi mod, which adds another ten layers of complexity.

I'm trying to follow the path of Peter the Great, but those mongolian Khanates and their fucking cavalry. And now the Swedes are all up in my face too!

At least I got to marry the last heir to the Byzantine empire and entrench my position as the last bastion of the Orthodox faith.


I saved the Byzantines from oblivion- and ousted the Pope as head of christianity by reestablishing the Pentarchy.

Now I'm about halfway through converting Europe back to Orthodoxy.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

View PostTapper, on 30 March 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

View PostTrull, on 28 March 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Has anyone managed to get a hold of Shogun 2 Fall of the samurai (TW stand-alone expansion)? I loved Shogun 2 (my second favorite in the series, after Rome of course). I'm not sure if I should dish out cash right away for this, as there seems to be a lot of change in terms of tech and political management. Less politics and more guns by the looks of it. To the players of TWEmpire, you understand how guns can fundamentally change the feel of the game. Looks good overall I guess, but I was hoping to get an opinion from the malazans if possible.
I bought it and have so far spent 15 minutes on it. It seems both Imperialists and Shogun-supporters are going to tech up to guns, which was a bit of a pity. I also thought the amount of different units at your disposal is rather slim (1 each of sword, spear, bow foot units, several tiers of gun units including skirmishers, and each side a mounted gun men and a lancer unit, plus 3 or 4 foreign units which are basically all the same apart from a few point spreads (French foreign legion, British marines, US Marines). Fleets are likewise the same for each faction - Imperial factions have 1 "unique" elite gun unit each - I guess the same is true for the Shogunate factions, or maybe they have sword units to reflect a more traditional approach). In vanilla Shogun 2, the lack of clan-unique units was fine because there was such an intricate balance between different type of units, but it seems in the add-on guns > other units. Which just calls for gun-toting units-spamming for your front line with maybe a unit or 3 of swordsmen to give you the edge if it comes to melee. Imho, after the very little bit I've seen of it € 9.99 like the Napoleon add-on Spanish campaign would have been a decent price, certainly not € 29.99.But, like I said, I played 2 turns and checked the tech tree and the upgrade tree for generals and the available agents. Once I sink some decent time into it, I may know more. Gotta finish Napoleon first to unlock several achievements, though - and maybe try and see if Empire looks better after Napoleon than it did before.


Ah thanks for the info. I'll probably buy it during a steam sale. I've read people defending the 29.99 price tag because it is a stand alone expansion, and not necessarily a traditional 'dlc' sort of deal; I'm still not entirely sure that it justifies the price. I had some fun with empire, though I've only played one faction and spent maybe 10 hours in game. It had a huge map, and the diplomacy was alright. I've never played napoleon but I heard it was similar to Empire,so it's also on my 'to play' list.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:29 PM

Our interview about Rome II Total War...dev has some interesting info (czech subtitles as bonus!:))




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Posted 06 October 2012 - 05:56 AM

Been playing HOMM3 recently.
That games like crack.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:22 AM

View PostHomer, on 06 October 2012 - 05:56 AM, said:

Been playing HOMM3 recently.
That games like crack.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 03:10 PM

As someone else said earlier, Empire Earth. But Empire Earth 1 with the expansion. Personally loved all the mechs and the whole space battles, planet ships e.t.c I've tried 2 and 3. 2 is more of a Rise of Nations inspired game and has no mechs. 3 has good graphics but lacks the gameplay of 1.

A much forgotten game built on the AoE engine is Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds with Clone Campaigns expansion. A must play for AoE AND Star Wars fans.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

View PostOtataral Toblakai, on 06 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

As someone else said earlier, Empire Earth. But Empire Earth 1 with the expansion. Personally loved all the mechs and the whole space battles, planet ships e.t.c I've tried 2 and 3. 2 is more of a Rise of Nations inspired game and has no mechs. 3 has good graphics but lacks the gameplay of 1.

A much forgotten game built on the AoE engine is Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds with Clone Campaigns expansion. A must play for AoE AND Star Wars fans.


I dunno. I played Galactic Battlegrounds, but I found it to be an exact AoE clone. I don't think it had a single original idea, aside from aerial units.

That massive battle where you lead the Empire to wipe out Rebel base on Hoth was pretty freaking epic, though.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostMentalist, on 06 October 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostOtataral Toblakai, on 06 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

As someone else said earlier, Empire Earth. But Empire Earth 1 with the expansion. Personally loved all the mechs and the whole space battles, planet ships e.t.c I've tried 2 and 3. 2 is more of a Rise of Nations inspired game and has no mechs. 3 has good graphics but lacks the gameplay of 1.

A much forgotten game built on the AoE engine is Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds with Clone Campaigns expansion. A must play for AoE AND Star Wars fans.


I dunno. I played Galactic Battlegrounds, but I found it to be an exact AoE clone. I don't think it had a single original idea, aside from aerial units.

That massive battle where you lead the Empire to wipe out Rebel base on Hoth was pretty freaking epic, though.


It is an exact clone but a really entertaining one. Try it with the expansion. New units, new civilisations. The campaigns are also good though I tend to play skirmish/single player vs PC matches mostly in most RTSs I play. Campaigns, I personally loved when I was Darth Maul and led the Trade Federation against the Gungans, Naboo et al.
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 05:29 PM

Back on Rome total war killing time (and computer people) at work.
Started a.new one with Parthia today Man are the Selucids dumb.
They keep trying to take Artaxeta, and I keep absolutely stomping them, then they demand I become their protectorate.
Intend to take Selucia soon to gain that sweet Babylonian gardens bonus then proceed to piss all over the east.

Swarm of horse archers, then bam with the catapharacts
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 06:04 PM

View PostMacros, on 07 December 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

Back on Rome total war killing time (and computer people) at work.
Started a.new one with Parthia today Man are the Selucids dumb.
They keep trying to take Artaxeta, and I keep absolutely stomping them, then they demand I become their protectorate.
Intend to take Selucia soon to gain that sweet Babylonian gardens bonus then proceed to piss all over the east.

Swarm of horse archers, then bam with the catapharacts


All well and good, but how do you rate your cavalry against Egyptian pikemen? Plus Parthia is really bad at sieges
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 06:16 PM

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View PostMacros, on 07 December 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

Back on Rome total war killing time (and computer people) at work.
Started a.new one with Parthia today Man are the Selucids dumb.
They keep trying to take Artaxeta, and I keep absolutely stomping them, then they demand I become their protectorate.
Intend to take Selucia soon to gain that sweet Babylonian gardens bonus then proceed to piss all over the east.

Swarm of horse archers, then bam with the catapharacts


All well and good, but how do you rate your cavalry against Egyptian pikemen? Plus Parthia is really bad at sieges


Horse archers will toxophile the dick out of pikemen every time.
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostMaark, on 07 December 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

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View PostMacros, on 07 December 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

Back on Rome total war killing time (and computer people) at work.
Started a.new one with Parthia today Man are the Selucids dumb.
They keep trying to take Artaxeta, and I keep absolutely stomping them, then they demand I become their protectorate.
Intend to take Selucia soon to gain that sweet Babylonian gardens bonus then proceed to piss all over the east.

Swarm of horse archers, then bam with the catapharacts


All well and good, but how do you rate your cavalry against Egyptian pikemen? Plus Parthia is really bad at sieges


Horse archers will toxophile the dick out of pikemen every time.


Egyptian foot archers are pretty good and usually have greater very volley density
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 08:35 PM

Against pikes, I've always tended towards hit and run. Foot archers are a bit slow for that. And anyway, don't the Egyptians have chariot archers?
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Posted 07 December 2015 - 09:22 PM

Haven't faced off against the gyptos yet.
But my army in artaxarta is nigh on invincible now. 9 units of cavalry archers, all with 3 silver chevrons (just cant seem to get any up to gold) destroy all comers.
For sieges I always sally out immediately with Parthia, tear shit up with the archers.
My main mobile force is currently out with the faction leader, 4 units of cataphracts and about 10 horse archers, nit 3 silvered yet but getting close.
Selucia and Armenia are destroyed so all I need to do now is nick a few more territories and its done.

Laying siege with parthia is a more painful affair, especially on stone walls. I generally fire a units on the walls to capture the towers then test shit up with my horse archers.

Just broke my truce with the Greeks, laid siege to.....the city directly west of Palmyra (just took palmyra and in the process demolished the selucids. Had to lift the siege, three armies thrown at me, withdrew then hammered 2 of them in separate battles. Greek hoplites can take a lot of punishment when in phalanx, so I use my archers to strip then off their artillery and cavalry then turn off skirmish and lure the hoolites into marching at my archers, then flank or tea smash with the heavy cavalry. Heroic victory, still no bloody gold chevrons for any of my units, its coming though.
Was struggling financially early doors because pontus and selucia were taking it in turns to hammer at me, all monies on retraining and very hard to get the economy built up, and some kind of recurring plague up in the shitty territory very north east of the map, but taking Selucia gives you the 20% farm bonus and the extra cash gave me the breathing space to piss all over the selucids.
I could take the easy route and smash scythia to get me up to my 15 territories for the scenario win, but I've a real desire to humble Pontis for being such dicks when I was up against it with the selucids.
Gods I love this game.

When I wrap the Parthia campaign who would you recommend playing out next? (I do the short campaigns, not imperial, unless Im playing the Julii, then I play for it all!!)
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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:35 AM

Have you tried to fight a siege against defending heavy infantry? I find that its almost impossible to get those lightly armoured eastern infantry to take the walls if the defending heavies even come close to numerical parity. Your Greek tactics sound great though.

Territory North-East of the map - one of those huge Scythian territories? Those are almost impossible to hold.

The only non-Roman civ I have ever used in an Imperial campaign are the Egyptians, And they are awesome if you can just get their more advanced units. I wiped out the Parthians easily, the Seleucids gave me a little more trouble, Pontus and Armenia were no match, Greece fell after a rather long fight. But then I was up against the Brutii who were holding Eastern Europe in strength. Never invade Europe by way of Contantinople if you are fighting romans, they will have 2-3 armies on the way. I won the siege but ended up fighting two more full strength armies with no time to retrain. The losses in that campaign put me on the defensive.

Meanwhile in Africa I weakened Carthage, but this just made it easier for the Scipii to invade. But fighting Romans in the desert is easy. I sent out my cavalry on very wide flanking manuevers, kept my infantry on the defensive and let my archers shoot off as many arrows as they could. The marching romans got weakened with arrow fire, then I fixed them with my central units of pikemen, wheeled my desert infantry on either flank and started rolling up the weaker units. Meanwhile my cavalry had wheeled back, smashed their archers and skirmishers and hit their heavies in the rear.

I must have won 7 or so heroic victories and finished off a dozen armies. I think I broke the Scipii because after that last battle it was a rather easy march up the African coast to Morocco. I used my navy to leapfrog smaller units ahead of my main army as well. But after that the campaign stalemated. I was facing the Brutii on the Constantinople front and the Julii on the Spanish front. Both had parity or superiority in navies so I didn't have a lot of room for manuever.
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