[Shadow]

Let's try and establish victory conditions. It may bring us closer to an answer/ strategy.
Omtose says there may be a cult. However, amongst the list of roles, there's no recruiter or deprogrammer, so I'll ignore that option for now. Incidentally, it casts suspicion on Omtose

Town needs to get rid of all who aren't town.
Ivets will probably have to kill everyone who's not an Ivet.
The possessed? Possess everyone? They would be a cult, but with a different mechanic.

Since the Ivets seem to be a different species (anyone able to confirm?), I doubt they can be possessed.
So, possessed and town share a goal there: lynch the Ivets.
Town needs to get rid of possessed, as do the Ivets? Question mark there, that can maybe be answered by the writer's fans amongst us.

The trick to counter the possessed will be to spot differences in alt's playing styles, I guess. The silent guys will definately get my attention, as they'll be the easiest to take over without us noticing.

[Shadow]

Actually, my assumption of the Ivets and town sharing a goal in getting rid of the possessed may be wrong... as that tale of Quinn spun by someone being so strong as a returned spirit can attest.
Also, see the story posted by P-S, did that priest call down a spirit into the body of the boy?

Confused Shadow is confused.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 10 November 2008 - 03:51 PM

[Ruse]

D'riss, on Nov 10 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

Ok...well from the opening post there are three clear "teams" to begin with.
There is Camilla, she is could also be the cult. these guys are renegade Edenist and if i remember correctly they do look to recruit people. Laton is there leader.

Then there is Quin, this is one bad mutha fucker. He is the guy that triggers the first possesion to come into being.
His personality is so strong that he suppresses the consciousness of the "spirit" that is possessing him, which gives him the possessor's super natuaral powers while not actually being possessed himself.
So in fact the guy that does the initial killing/torture and caused the first possessed to come into being, in a sense doesnt actually become possessed, well not for very long in any case.
Anyways...these guys are like satanists and therefore could also be considered a cult. As Quinn regularly recruits people aswell.

And then there is joshua calvert and co. that is the town.

Cool - Like I said earlier, when I asked PS about Ivets, he told me they were the killers and that the edenists are the cult. Is it safe to assume that quinn will somehow be involved in the first possession event? I doubt it would be as straightforward as him killing people, since it seems he cant be possessed.

Also, @ shadow - it's been confirmed by PS both in the playing tips and in pm conversation that there is a cult.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on Nov 10 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

D'riss, on Nov 10 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

Ok...well from the opening post there are three clear "teams" to begin with.
There is Camilla, she is could also be the cult. these guys are renegade Edenist and if i remember correctly they do look to recruit people. Laton is there leader.

Then there is Quin, this is one bad mutha fucker. He is the guy that triggers the first possesion to come into being.
His personality is so strong that he suppresses the consciousness of the "spirit" that is possessing him, which gives him the possessor's super natuaral powers while not actually being possessed himself.
So in fact the guy that does the initial killing/torture and caused the first possessed to come into being, in a sense doesnt actually become possessed, well not for very long in any case.
Anyways...these guys are like satanists and therefore could also be considered a cult. As Quinn regularly recruits people aswell.

And then there is joshua calvert and co. that is the town.

Cool - Like I said earlier, when I asked PS about Ivets, he told me they were the killers and that the edenists are the cult. Is it safe to assume that quinn will somehow be involved in the first possession event? I doubt it would be as straightforward as him killing people, since it seems he cant be possessed.

Also, @ shadow - it's been confirmed by PS both in the playing tips and in pm conversation that there is a cult.

Were does it say that Quinn can't be possessed. That is information that I don't have.

[Ruse]

Someone said in the story quinn was possessed but then willed the spirit away. Or at least that's how I understood it. I could be completely wrong though. Let me go find the quote.

[Ruse]

D'riss, on Nov 10 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

Ok...well from the opening post there are three clear "teams" to begin with.
There is Camilla, she is could also be the cult. these guys are renegade Edenist and if i remember correctly they do look to recruit people. Laton is there leader.

Then there is Quin, this is one bad mutha fucker. He is the guy that triggers the first possesion to come into being.
His personality is so strong that he suppresses the consciousness of the "spirit" that is possessing him, which gives him the possessor's super natuaral powers while not actually being possessed himself.
So in fact the guy that does the initial killing/torture and caused the first possessed to come into being, in a sense doesnt actually become possessed, well not for very long in any case.
Anyways...these guys are like satanists and therefore could also be considered a cult. As Quinn regularly recruits people aswell.

And then there is joshua calvert and co. that is the town.

That's the quote I was referring to. If this is true to the book, then can we assume quinn cannot be possessed? It would make sense that not every person in the game can be possessed. I would also think that the recruiting mechanics for the edenists probably arent that straightforward, or that the deprogrammer is a hidden/activatable role.

[Meanas]

Hmmm.... a slow start for once

Ok to whoever asked about Quinn being unpossessable.
In the book, he got possessed and then at a later date scared the possessing soul into submission.

[Omtose]

checking in briefly
I got the cult info from the sign-up page, didn't make it up

as others before me have said, the posessions won't start till people start dying.
and there are two spoiler heavens--one here and one on the temp board.

Ivets, are afaik, not a separate species--they are convicts from Earth who were bought by the company runnnig the colonization of Lalaonde and are virtual slaves/serfs, forced to do most of the manual labour establishing the colony,

k, anyhow, gotta run. Busy mondays are a busy bitch.

[Rashan]

well, this game appears to be even more fucked up than I initally thought, thoroughly lost, but not liking the way telas is keeping his bullshit vote on me, my ano vote was a joke, and I thought my sword posturing comment made that fairly obvious.
Is he clutching at straws to get an early train going or just a little silly?

[Meanas]

@Ruse: having read the book, I am inclined to believe that if Quinn gets possessed he will only get scarier!

My thoughts on the setup :

The Ivets will be the killers we are looking for. Dibs said that in the beginning this will be a Town vs Scum game.
So Town = Joshua and co.
Scum = Quinn and the Ivets

Not sure where Laton fits in here, because from what I remember he did not last all that long... So if he is the cult him and the town should have the same goals, stopping Quinn.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on Nov 10 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

D'riss, on Nov 10 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

Ok...well from the opening post there are three clear "teams" to begin with.
There is Camilla, she is could also be the cult. these guys are renegade Edenist and if i remember correctly they do look to recruit people. Laton is there leader.

Then there is Quin, this is one bad mutha fucker. He is the guy that triggers the first possesion to come into being.
His personality is so strong that he suppresses the consciousness of the "spirit" that is possessing him, which gives him the possessor's super natuaral powers while not actually being possessed himself.
So in fact the guy that does the initial killing/torture and caused the first possessed to come into being, in a sense doesnt actually become possessed, well not for very long in any case.
Anyways...these guys are like satanists and therefore could also be considered a cult. As Quinn regularly recruits people aswell.

And then there is joshua calvert and co. that is the town.

That's the quote I was referring to. If this is true to the book, then can we assume quinn cannot be possessed? It would make sense that not every person in the game can be possessed. I would also think that the recruiting mechanics for the edenists probably arent that straightforward, or that the deprogrammer is a hidden/activatable role.

Thanks I missed that on my read through.

[Ruse]

So we know the Ivets are the scum and the Edenists are the cult.

There are 3 Ivets left in the OP. From peoples descriptions, Quinn is obviously a killer. Are the other two also killers, or just symps. I think 1 killer with 20+ people isnt enough, so I'm inclined to think they are also killers.

There are also presumably 2 cultists at this point. Five scum seems about right. There wouldnt be too many, as the introduction of possessed players later in the game would make it too hard for the townsfolk.

[Hood's Path]

Hello- Just checking in and reading up. Work's hell the first part of this week. I will read when I can, but the next couple of days my Posts will be on the lower side. Come wednesday though, It's ON!

[Meanas]

Hood's Path, on Nov 10 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

Hello- Just checking in and reading up. Work's hell the first part of this week. I will read when I can, but the next couple of days my Posts will be on the lower side. Come wednesday though, It's ON!

oh no! He is making himself a target for the lost souls!!!!

[Tennes]

Meanas, on Nov 10 2008, 06:06 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 10 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

Hello- Just checking in and reading up. Work's hell the first part of this week. I will read when I can, but the next couple of days my Posts will be on the lower side. Come wednesday though, It's ON!

oh no! He is making himself a target for the lost souls!!!!

Snicker

[Meanas]

oh btw:

Vote: Thyrllan

because he is not here yet or he is so inconspicuous I missed him

[Hood's Path]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 6 2008, 03:34 AM, said:

Quinn watched as the towns folk grabbed another Ivet, he couldnt tell who it was from this distance and with the failing light, but the orange jump suit was unmistakable. The other two, all that remained of his sect in the Ivets, where crouched behind him. Their serpent beast had taken full control over them, and instead of fear their felt empowered by the slaughter, for they were not weak like the others. The townsolf that hunted them had numerical advantage yes, but they were skilled killers, well practiced in deciet and murder. Quinn had taught them well.

I would think 3 killers no symps.

Also, it seems Camilla is the Cult, I believe she was just using Laton's eyes to see through. Is it possible She might have something to do with possesion?

[Hood's Path]

Meanas, on Nov 10 2008, 09:06 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 10 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

Hello- Just checking in and reading up. Work's hell the first part of this week. I will read when I can, but the next couple of days my Posts will be on the lower side. Come wednesday though, It's ON!

oh no! He is making himself a target for the lost souls!!!!

Uh-oh...what did I say wrong? Dammit 1 post in and I am boned

[Mockra]

Just checking in. Here, but not for long.

Havent read up yet but:

vote grief

Because even if hes not here, he deserves to die after last game.

Failing that:

remove vote
vote Liosan

Sorry whoever you are, but after last game, that alt should just be voted off on principle.

[Meanas]

@HP: You have it backwards, Laton was using Camilla's eyes!

Spoiler

Its part of being an Edenist, they link telepathically using a symbiote of some kind and in Laton's case its a special relationship where he has control over his clones/children

Edit: added the spoiler tags.

This post has been edited by Meanas: 12 November 2008 - 05:23 AM