[Emurlahn]

Ruse, on Oct 28 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

I would joke vote you Serc, but you have actually made the game understandable.

I'm not too sure on the bit of having the company kill it's recruits. I wonder if the players have to follow the company line while they are captured.

I guess the only role I wouldn't want is Clair's. I think I would have a nervous breakdown from everybody trying to get me.

Yeah, she does seem to be on everyone's want list. I especially do not envy Peter as his victory rests solely on her survival. Actually, I think Peter is worse off than Claire. Sure, Claire has to be careful, but is in the end in control of how she plays. Peter on the other hand can only hope that Claire plays properly.

I think Sylar is the hardest role to play though, when all is said and done, yet also I think the one most amusing to play.

[Serc]

the company recruit players, they are a team and you get recruited by them and retain your powers but aren't able to use them. It is effectively joining a town, you have a leader, a vig, a guard and the recruiter. You can break free from them by giving up your powers for a day and night following your escape, but if you are in the same boat i am were you need to join a faction to win why would you escape? At the end of the day the company have the biggest task to complete - removing four players, but the biggest chances of being successful. Peter has the advantage of growing his cult and them retaining their power. While sylar is never going to have followers, but will grow in strength. You can pretty much guarantee that if sylar is alive by day 5 he will win as by that stage he will most likely have so many powers as to be an unkillable behemoth. there are only three players without powers on the list, with 1 player whose power is redundant (bob) but given his status must have other abilities. Effectively then there is only simone who has no power or role, but possibly knows who both peter and isaac are.

@ruse - why, because you don't want to understand the game? I am just speculating from what gem has gotten, i am sure everyone who watches the show could hazard a worthy guess but i know for a fact that a few players don't watch the show and given that all character names and winning conditions are given its only fair to discuss it so those who are uninformed can get a read on the game.

[Emurlahn]

Didn't he say that you helped him understand the game, not that he didn't want to understand it?

[Emurlahn]

Also, though I generally agree with your assessment Serc, I would expect there to be some kind of incentive for players not to be with the company too. If there isn', why would they ever want to escape? Some probably wants to retain their powers, but roles like Simeone, Ando, the indian guy.. and perhaps Isaac who's role must surely be pretty passive and thus not linked to survival as such, for them I just don't see an incentive.

[Emurlahn]

pah, you guys are so dull

[Serc]

I wasn't given an incentive to escape from the factions, i was told if i didn't get their attention and join one i would lose. So unless that changes when you get recruited (which i seriously doubt) i cant see any reason beyond having a useful power and hoping to exploit it. frankly i am confused, my assumption is that out of 16 players, we should have ten who need to be recruited so why is everyone so coy about discussion? Even someone like adam who is part of the wining conditions for the company needs to be either sedated or absorbed to win as they arent given winning conditions. Claire can win by joining the company or peter.

Strangely it looks like peter can win day 1, if we lynch sylar today, peter wins and we all lose. Therefore we cant go after sylar today! How messed up is that?? In fact, looking at it, with so many of us not in a faction, i may just vote for night today as if i am not in a faction i dont want people dead until i join one.

remove vote

I will hold off on that action though for a while.

[Serc]

Actually that raises a point i think the mods should answer in thread.

@MODS - Does the game end when one faction achieves its winning conditions, or do we play on for second?

[Serc]

Emurlahn, on Oct 28 2008, 09:38 AM, said:

Serc, on Oct 28 2008, 10:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Oct 28 2008, 08:20 AM, said:

ok.. Good morning..

Now, stop discussing roles!! Gawd. We don't want anyone to be certain they've taken out the killer, the finder or whomever. Stop discussing it. IT does not benefit anyone but Sylar and other killers if any.

@omtose - yeah this advice is such crap i just didnt even recognise it. Discussing roles etc is what this sort of game is all around, you dont want us to know what the setup is because you dont want us figuring out you are sylar and lynching you before you eat our brainz.

Or I do not think that .. Wait.. erm, I suddenly realised I assumed there to be a cf providing the role of the dead player.. Did I just magically create that assumption? If I did, then yes, discussing roles don't seem to be a problem and I just had a brain fart.

If we are told whether the one who died is Hiro, Parkman or whomever, then I do not think we benefit from discussing roles. Game mechanics on the other hand, is something we should try to figure out.

I think btb that the company can communicate. Their "prisoners" do not really count as being allies I think, so they would need something to protect them.

I just reread the rules - there is a CF in effect, no mention of strong or weak though.

@MODS - do we get alignment or role and alignment upon death?

[Emurlahn]

Serc, on Oct 28 2008, 12:01 PM, said:

I wasn't given an incentive to escape from the factions, i was told if i didn't get their attention and join one i would lose. So unless that changes when you get recruited (which i seriously doubt) i cant see any reason beyond having a useful power and hoping to exploit it. frankly i am confused, my assumption is that out of 16 players, we should have ten who need to be recruited so why is everyone so coy about discussion? Even someone like adam who is part of the wining conditions for the company needs to be either sedated or absorbed to win as they arent given winning conditions. Claire can win by joining the company or peter.

Strangely it looks like peter can win day 1, if we lynch sylar today, peter wins and we all lose. Therefore we cant go after sylar today! How messed up is that?? In fact, looking at it, with so many of us not in a faction, i may just vote for night today as if i am not in a faction i dont want people dead until i join one.

remove vote

I will hold off on that action though for a while.

Not only that. Peter wins if Sylar is slain at any point as long as Claire is alive. He doesn't even need to alive himself. I agree it's pretty weird.

And I see there are people viewing this thread, yet we're the only ones posting. Kind of annoying to be honest. I think our best bet is amusingly enough to kill Claire as soon as possible. That then allows us to kill Sylar too and win with the company. Naturally we'll have to be recruited first, but hopefully Sylar wont die right away either. I definitly do not want to win by being absorbed by Sylar, that's for sure. It'll hardly be my victory if so.

I don't think going to night is the answer though. I still believe we should aim to lynch someone, and I still think we should use this day to get the feel of each other.

[Emurlahn]

Mockra. I seeeeeeeeee you

[Serc]

so we are aiming to lynch claire then, before peter or sylar get her and then begging the company for a recruit all we need do then is find the cheerleader, mafia would be so much easier with photos of the players instead of avatars

The fact is though as we are not in any faction, i think the best idea would be to hedge your bets and hope to get recruited, we could accidentally lynch sylar and lose. Plus now everyone is going to claim sylar when they are about to get lynched today and hope for the best.

[Mockra]

Emurlahn, on Oct 28 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Mockra, on Oct 28 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

im here just catching up

There's about a full page worth of posts. And it's early early day 1 banter. Does it really take this long to catch up? Come on, I need someone apart from Serc to talk to.

yea yea i have shit to do...

[Serc]

uh oh - emurlahn is a board mod, i can't see mockra.

[Emurlahn]

Serc, on Oct 28 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

uh oh - emurlahn is a board mod, i can't see mockra.

No, if I had been a board mod I would've been able to see who the three anonymous users are. Mockra is just on and off being online I think..



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[Serc]

oh i can see him now... weird. Aha you aren't a board mod then, the plot thickens.

[Korvalain]

Well im here now, this setup seems ridiculous
I will read up later, but have work to do right now

[Emurlahn]

Mockra, on Oct 28 2008, 12:11 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Oct 28 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Mockra, on Oct 28 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

im here just catching up

There's about a full page worth of posts. And it's early early day 1 banter. Does it really take this long to catch up? Come on, I need someone apart from Serc to talk to.

yea yea i have shit to do...

But commenting on the game is beyond your busy schedule? That's a shame. I hope it gets better later in the game

[Mockra]

Serc, on Oct 28 2008, 11:01 AM, said:

I wasn't given an incentive to escape from the factions, i was told if i didn't get their attention and join one i would lose. So unless that changes when you get recruited (which i seriously doubt) i cant see any reason beyond having a useful power and hoping to exploit it. frankly i am confused, my assumption is that out of 16 players, we should have ten who need to be recruited so why is everyone so coy about discussion? Even someone like adam who is part of the wining conditions for the company needs to be either sedated or absorbed to win as they arent given winning conditions. Claire can win by joining the company or peter.

Strangely it looks like peter can win day 1, if we lynch sylar today, peter wins and we all lose. Therefore we cant go after sylar today! How messed up is that?? In fact, looking at it, with so many of us not in a faction, i may just vote for night today as if i am not in a faction i dont want people dead until i join one.

remove vote

I will hold off on that action though for a while.

yea i was just about to point this out.
It does seem that if we hit sylar today, peter will win.
Crazy...

[Mockra]

Emurlahn, on Oct 28 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

Mockra. I seeeeeeeeee you

yea..and?