[mocker]

lol yeah im trying to get on for longer periods of time so i can post more substance. its been hard up till now!! started new job last week, miss the student life lol

im torn between tapper and dibs

dam dam dam

swaying towards tappers train of thoughts

EDIT: dammit now im just stuck in the middle again. i hate fence sittin. i wana go apocolyptic lol. but there's so little to go on!!

a lot of these theories are based on very little and as such it'll come down to a stab in the dark (so to speak lol) to determine where we shud go next.

low posters could be up to anythin

This post has been edited by mocker: 20 October 2008 - 07:05 PM

[Lisheo]

I'm not voting DiBs, he's the only one getting anywhere, despite accuseing me of being a symp lol. I'm sticking with my vote on Vengeance for a while. Still seems his knowledge of Alt's innocence was a little odd, as he then lynched him.

[Gem Windcaster]

drinksinbars, on Oct 20 2008, 05:32 PM, said:

@gem - if you aren't interested in playing modkill yourself, if you are inno us wasting a lynch on you hrts the team even more so telling people you don't mind dying is a bit of a cop out.

Of course I don't want to be lynched - I never said that. The only case anyone has mentioned on me is that there's some sort of mystical connection between me and Tapper? Which is ridiculous, because all that happened was that I said I was willing to switch, and when enough people had voted, I hammered. That Tapper voted around that time had nothing to do with me - all I know is that I voted when I had promised I was going to vote. Everything else us just make belief.

[The Dude]

I also think we should hold off on Gem. If she doesn't want to play, she should mod suicide herself. If she wants to continue, I will then look at her. In the mean time it looks like the other 2 possibilities are Morgy and Venge. Venge hasn't struck me as particularly scummy, with the exception of the non hammer throw. The case on Morgy, seems very weak. (Yes I understand that I am still seeming sympish towards Morgy) But alas it is a case. and more of one than we have on anyone else. so for now:

vote morgoth

If Gem comes on and says she won't mod kill herself, then I would be willing to switch to her. We still have very little info to go on.

[mocker]

if you think the case on morgy is weak then why vote it? Venge is a weird one i agree with ya!

i wana vote for him but it doesnt seem right

am rereadin at the mo tho so hopefully will be enlightened soon lol

[Vengeance]

Jump Around, on Oct 20 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

Vengeance, on Oct 20 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

Yeah and several of those were JA that we should have hit. I remember.... Yet another reason to Lynch JA on day one...p:

Vengeance, on Oct 20 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

Yeah and several of those were JA that we should have hit. I remember.... Yet another reason to Lynch JA on day one...p:

Arguments so good you have to say them twice

You didn't provide a hammer vote on Alt with minutes left, you were in the middle of the lynch train and started harassing the voters for railroading an inno before the lynch was even over. Difference.

My vote was about 10 minutes before the hammer vote. I had gone back and looked harder at Alt. I wasn't in the middle of the train I was down at the caboose. I didn't harass anyone but myself. It was basically me having a conversation with myself and Dibs. Who did I harass nobody. I did say that I thought that he was going to come up innocent. Which seems to be the whole argument against me. Sweet jesus how many times have we lynched people who turned up innocent. If you can't make a guess that a person who doesn't have anyone defending them and is about to get lynched in the last half of an hour on day one is in all probability going to be innocent you need serious help.

[Jump Around]

Hmmm, tough position.

I have to go now, and there's no clear picture. My number 1 choice, Vengeance, still has a good chance of getting lynched, so even though I said I would switch to Gem, I won't. I'm quite sure there's enough players around, and time, to finish the lynch on Gem. As for Morgoth, I still don't see it.

[Vengeance]

Lisheo, on Oct 20 2008, 01:56 PM, said:

Its pretty much everyone at this point. Im not sure about you, either, you pop in and out, but so far you haven't seemed to be manipulating trains as I expect a killer would, so you ain't on my radar yet.

Killers don't have to manipulate trains that is a symps job. Killers just have to make sure they aren't on very many trains and if they are give good reasons for being on them.

[Gem Windcaster]

Guys, I never said I wanted to quit, I never said I wanted to die, and you guys haven't even got a case on me. Good diverting attention away from Lace though. Dunno if that means he's a good guy or bad though.

[Tapper]

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

lol yeah im trying to get on for longer periods of time so i can post more substance. its been hard up till now!! started new job last week, miss the student life lol

im torn between tapper and dibs

dam dam dam

swaying towards tappers train of thoughts

EDIT: dammit now im just stuck in the middle again. i hate fence sittin. i wana go apocolyptic lol. but there's so little to go on!!

a lot of these theories are based on very little and as such it'll come down to a stab in the dark (so to speak lol) to determine where we shud go next.

low posters could be up to anythin

The main point of my post is the first part. I don't care if you vote for Gem or for me or for whoever: that's short-term effects. I think the connection between Gem and me is pretty solid and will be a convenient start for whoever wants us lynched, hence me voting for her now: we're pretty much sitting ducks. Probably unlucky timing due to timezones or whatever, but dragged out because we were both on in the weekend and voting for Lace.
A 12 year old can make the obvious link.
Hence me voting for her: I know I am inno, she might be, but I'd rather not take chances and this way, I can prove that I'm not beyond sacrificing my faithful companion for the greater good. Of course, that's a double edged sword, cause if she comes up inno, I just might be a killer using her lynch to plead innocent myself. So, I pretty much think that both her days and mine are numbered and that we doomed one another throughout the weekend. Sorry for that, Gem
As said, it is NOT what I want to bring across primarily.

What I do want to say is this: there was a lynch train there consisting of 5 applied votes and 2 more promised if we could make the lynch. That's Morgoth at L-3, which, with 3 hours on the clock and probably less, should be a dead Morgoth, normally.
Then a second train starts on a guy voting in the first. It builds speed pretty fast and the people who vote for it from L-5 up are the ones under suspicion right now: the ones for who the target did not really matter and the ones who changed votes for it. The people who were lynching for the lynch.
Yet the start and build-up was before they came in the picture.

The starters of both the Morgy-train and the alt-train haven't been questioned/ scrutinized yet aside from a mention by DiBs on the possibility of Gavin being a killer, and The Dude. Neither got a lot of attention, which is weird. especially if you see how much attention the possible lynch of Lace and the people on that train got.

Instead, the middle part has been enlargened: Venge, Gem, me as diverting attention away from Morgoth. Never mind that two of the three had pledged their vote in the exact same way as they did on Morgoth: show us the lynch, and we vote. The mercenaries, the ones who want a lynch and didn't care who.
So, either the ones enlargening this middle/second part of the second train wanted to divert attention from the train starters or from the first train, and/or the starters of the second train wanted a diversion resulting in a lynch/ no lynch at all, or they were using the presence of certain individuals on the second train to push for a lynch. Your call.

[Lisheo]

Lmao at your last message Vengeance. Alright, I can understand your point now.
remove vote

And Tapper, shhh, I remove vote and vote again with every second breath lmao. Sorry, its just this is a confusing situation we've got goin on here, I'm still not sure where things are going, and the lines keep getting drawn, erased and redrawn again and again. Although The Dude, are you just voting Morgy so you don't appear to be a Morgy symp?

[Vengeance]

Jump Around, on Oct 20 2008, 02:21 PM, said:

Hmmm, tough position.

I have to go now, and there's no clear picture. My number 1 choice, Vengeance, still has a good chance of getting lynched, so even though I said I would switch to Gem, I won't. I'm quite sure there's enough players around, and time, to finish the lynch on Gem. As for Morgoth, I still don't see it.

You are such an OMGUS....

[Jump Around]

Vengeance, on Oct 20 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

My vote was about 10 minutes before the hammer vote. I had gone back and looked harder at Alt. I wasn't in the middle of the train I was down at the caboose. I didn't harass anyone but myself. It was basically me having a conversation with myself and Dibs. Who did I harass nobody. I did say that I thought that he was going to come up innocent. Which seems to be the whole argument against me. Sweet jesus how many times have we lynched people who turned up innocent. If you can't make a guess that a person who doesn't have anyone defending them and is about to get lynched in the last half of an hour on day one is in all probability going to be innocent you need serious help.

Cross-post.

Call me naive, then, whenever I vote someone I hope for a guilty CF.

And this is a CF game, I'm amazed at how many times I read "X defends Y so X might be partner/symp of Y". It also applies to your comment about nobody defending alt. The fact that no-one defended Alt didn't mean, to me, that alt was inno, just that if he was guilty his partners must already be on the train and voting for him. You are just trying to justify why you "felt" (i.e. knew) he would come up inno.

Anyways, I leave my vote there, and off to DiscoDreams I go.

[Gem Windcaster]

What are you on about Tapper, there's no connection, just because someone says there are doesn't mean there are any, or even that there are any real signs of it. Trying to get an easy inno lynch?

[The Dude]

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 17 2008, 05:50 AM, said:

I'm totally fine with you lynching me, I said in the sign up thread, that my goal is to get lynched/killed the first couple of days, and then help modding.

I don't know.. to me that sounds like you want to get lynched. It is, after all, your goal.

[Jump Around]

Vengeance, on Oct 20 2008, 10:25 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 20 2008, 02:21 PM, said:

Hmmm, tough position.

I have to go now, and there's no clear picture. My number 1 choice, Vengeance, still has a good chance of getting lynched, so even though I said I would switch to Gem, I won't. I'm quite sure there's enough players around, and time, to finish the lynch on Gem. As for Morgoth, I still don't see it.

You are such an OMGUS....

NO U!

[Gem Windcaster]

The Dude, on Oct 20 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 17 2008, 05:50 AM, said:

I'm totally fine with you lynching me, I said in the sign up thread, that my goal is to get lynched/killed the first couple of days, and then help modding.

I don't know.. to me that sounds like you want to get lynched. It is, after all, your goal.

Man, I was being sarcastic. Didn't know that could be lethal. Besides, if I didn't want to play, I wouldn't have signed up. If we'd lynch everybody that was fooling around the first day, we'd have no players left.

[Grief]

It is day two. There are 3 hours, 30 minutes remaining.

16 dancers still getting down: Baudin,Dktorode, DrinksinBars, Gavin, Gem, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Obdigore Silencer, Tapper, The Dude,Vengeance, Yellow,

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

4 Votes Morgoth: DiBs, Lacedaemonian, Baudin, The Dude
2 Votes Lacedaemonian: Vengeance, Gem Windcaster
4 Votes Gem: Silencer, Yellow, Gavin, Tapper
2 votes Vengeance: Jump Around, Dktorode
1 vote Drinksinbars : Morgoth

Players yet to vote: Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore,

[Obdigore]

Spam Spam wham diddly spam.

Honestly, there isn't a solid case at all at this point, and I'm not sure I want to vote for any of the people being brought forward since almost none of them have any defenders.

I skimmed what I missed (all 30 or so pages), and found nothing super-out-there, so I suppose I should read again more deeply, but I can't do it right now.

[Gem Windcaster]

Thank heavens for the pros... (<--that's not sarcastic by the way - I better be clear from now on.)



Edit: grammar

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 20 October 2008 - 07:34 PM