[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 29 November 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

There are absolutely excellent interwub columnists out there including many who do it for free.
It's when we see the example in question that it's reminder that some sites go for quantity over quality.

And there's a bit of a Howard Stern thing going... even the bad ones draw attention.

Indeed, I guess the masses are the masses and love drama.

[Beezulbubba]

Holy shit! Boardwalk Empire took it to where Game of Thrones took it! Whaaaaaaa!

[Abyss]

MODGOD NOTICE OF THREAD SPLIT

ONCE UPON A TIME DISCUSSION OFF INTO ITS OWN THREAD WITH THE LAST DOZEN OR SO POSTS DEDICATED SOLELY TO THAT SHOW.

CARRY ON.

[McLovin]

Abyss, on 06 December 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

MODGOD NOTICE OF THREAD SPLIT

ONCE UPON A TIME DISCUSSION OFF INTO ITS OWN THREAD WITH THE LAST DOZEN OR SO POSTS DEDICATED SOLELY TO THAT SHOW.

CARRY ON.

That kind of power must be intoxicating.

[Abyss]

McLovin, on 06 December 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

Abyss, on 06 December 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

MODGOD NOTICE OF THREAD SPLIT

ONCE UPON A TIME DISCUSSION OFF INTO ITS OWN THREAD WITH THE LAST DOZEN OR SO POSTS DEDICATED SOLELY TO THAT SHOW.

CARRY ON.

That kind of power must be intoxicating.

Not at all. Whatever do you mean?

[Abyss]

PERSONS OF INTEREST was back last week, and i can't quite make up my mind about the ep. Either it was clever, multi-layered and interesting and moved the Elias subplot along, or it was trite, predictable and boderline insulting to the viewerbrain.

GRIMM - The last two eps were just mediocre at best. The pigs vs wolves thing had potential but ended up silly, and the rat thing was just a complete mess made worse by some thinly veilied ref to DJ Deadmaus that completely failed at relevance to the story and seemed more like them trying and failing to be clever.

ONCE UPON A TIME was solid.

[amphibian]

Abyss, on 12 December 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

GRIMM - The last two eps were just mediocre at best. The pigs vs wolves thing had potential but ended up silly, and the rat thing was just a complete mess made worse by some thinly veilied ref to DJ Deadmaus that completely failed at relevance to the story and seemed more like them trying and failing to be clever.

ONCE UPON A TIME was solid.

Disagree with both these things.

Grimm - Monroe is easily the strongest and best character. Hap and Angelina were excellent ways to explore his character some more, as well as throwing in a genuinely unique take on the big bad wolves vs. three little pigs dynamic. It was refreshing how they basically skipped to the aftermath and had the pigs on the offensive. Also, there was plot progression in Burkhardt's girlfriend, Juliette, finding some more weird shit about Nick directly through the refrigerator repairman and in Schade making the slow creep on Hank. I also really like the actor who plays Hap. He's been on a few other shows I like and did a good job of being the fuzzy idiot.

The Deadmaus episode was kinda uneven. The actual DJ kid was great. One "bad guy" was good, but the other three parts of the crew weren't as impressive. It was an interesting take on the "hero solves crime" angle, as Burkhardt didn't actually solve the crime and basically had to let a morally grey character get away with no punishment.

Once Upon a Time - Other than Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin, Prince Charming/Kathryn, the Sheriff and Emma, none of these characters are good. All of them are uneven, have shitty lines and the story is fast approaching a trainwreck of Lost-like proportions. It is blatantly veering into Desperate Housewives territory with the plot contrivances and the illogic that remains just soapy enough to retain the middle America female audiences that Desperate Housewives had for a while.

I'm seriously out. I wish I could cut down the show to just the Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold parts and leave it at that.

[Abyss]

amphibian, on 12 December 2011 - 09:05 PM, said:

Abyss, on 12 December 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

GRIMM - The last two eps were just mediocre at best. The pigs vs wolves thing had potential but ended up silly, and the rat thing was just a complete mess made worse by some thinly veilied ref to DJ Deadmaus that completely failed at relevance to the story and seemed more like them trying and failing to be clever.

Disagree with both these things.

Grimm - Monroe is easily the strongest and best character. Hap and Angelina were excellent ways to explore his character some more, as well as throwing in a genuinely unique take on the big bad wolves vs. three little pigs dynamic. It was refreshing how they basically skipped to the aftermath and had the pigs on the offensive. Also, there was plot progression in Burkhardt's girlfriend, Juliette, finding some more weird shit about Nick directly through the refrigerator repairman and in Schade making the slow creep on Hank. I also really like the actor who plays Hap. He's been on a few other shows I like and did a good job of being the fuzzy idiot.

The Deadmaus episode was kinda uneven. The actual DJ kid was great. One "bad guy" was good, but the other three parts of the crew weren't as impressive. It was an interesting take on the "hero solves crime" angle, as Burkhardt didn't actually solve the crime and basically had to let a morally grey character get away with no punishment.

While intro'ing some additional wolvenfarten might have been interesting, having them be 'big dumb party dude' and 'angry sex girl' fell into lame archetype territory. There was nothing particularly interesting about either character to bounce off Monroe. I do like Monroe generally - the bit in the hospital basement where he tore the hitman's arm off was awesome - but i have difficulty buying him as a former ravening hunter killer and very little in his performance this ep changed that. If he had gotten up in Burkhardt's face and growled at him for threatening the other wolves in a pack thing i would been more impressed than him running off into the forest for wolfsex with raw rabbit. Also, the nerve-cluster thing was lame in set-up and execution.

The Pigs Strike back... may have been more surprising if our first look at the killer didn't show an obvious glaring massive pig-nose.

And the ep was in every respect predictable. Again.

As was the Deadmaus ep... which also included too much overt plot holes and sheer stupid... Rat-kid is a hugely sucessful DJ yet he lives in a dump and is trod on by the rich kids? the teacher couldn't just gtf out of the car when the rats came in?? 'he jumped us'... there were three of you dumbass. And the kids just standing in the middle of the massive room when the rats start coming in was visually silly when the massive doors behind them ARE WIDE OPEN SO THE COPS CAN WALK IN.

It wasn't wholly fail - Monroe trying to advise the kid was funny, and Hexenbeast girl seducing partner-guy was a nice development - but too much of the espisode was spent on what felt like poorly thought out filler.

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ONCE UPON A TIME was solid.

Once Upon a Time - Other than Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin, Prince Charming/Kathryn, the Sheriff and Emma, none of these characters are good. All of them are uneven, have shitty lines and the story is fast approaching a trainwreck of Lost-like proportions. It is blatantly veering into Desperate Housewives territory with the plot contrivances and the illogic that remains just soapy enough to retain the middle America female audiences that Desperate Housewives had for a while.

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Every ep reveals more of the backstory and generally advances the main Emma vs Regina plot. I agree with you that the dialogue isn't as strong as it could be, and awful at times, but the overall stroytelling is moving forward and, so far, tighter than huge chunks of LOST and magnitudes less stupid that DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES.

[McLovin]

Abyss, on 12 December 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

PERSONS OF INTEREST was back last week, and i can't quite make up my mind about the ep. Either it was clever, multi-layered and interesting and moved the Elias subplot along, or it was trite, predictable and boderline insulting to the viewerbrain.

My vote is the latter. Seriously, Elias is just going to walk into a police station and drop flowers off at Carter's desk? Even if the police didn't recognize you as a wanted suspect, they wouldn't let you just waltz into the homicide bullpen.

Also, why did Grenade Launcher Jesus steal that car from Hector's shop and leave his motorbike at the scene? Then later he goes and gets it? Wouldn't somebody have noticed?

Somebody in the showrunning team's not paying attention.

This show is officially on warning status with me.

[JLV]

Anyone else watch the Stephen King miniseries "bag of bones" today/yesterday?

[HoosierDaddy]

Stephen King's stuff is hit and miss. Sorry to say Bag of Bones was a miss.

Pierce Brosnan never sold me on being Mike Noonan and stuff was ridiculously rushed as all bad adaptations of large books are.

[Slow Ben]

Seriously, The League.


"Whats with that outfit Andre? You look like a Deadwood character at a Justin Bieber concert."

[McLovin]

Caught up on GRIMM with the Pigs and Deadmaus eps. Barely tolerable, IMO. Dunno how this is doing ratings-wise but they seriously need to up their game.

EDIT - TVbythenumbers says renewal is likely.

This post has been edited by McLovin: 14 December 2011 - 04:38 PM

[tiam]

Watched seasons 1-2 of Sons of Anarchy. While not exactly The Wire its still very entertaining. Just need to find season 3 now as weve got season 4.

[Binder of Demons]

Just watched the most recent episode of PERSON OF INTEREST and it was really good. Nice set up for future eps with his past becoming a more present danger. Despite some serious flaws, i have to say Person of Interest is one of the few shows i actually look forward to these days.

[JLV]

H.D., on 13 December 2011 - 04:06 AM, said:

Stephen King's stuff is hit and miss. Sorry to say Bag of Bones was a miss.

Pierce Brosnan never sold me on being Mike Noonan and stuff was ridiculously rushed as all bad adaptations of large books are.

It was entertaining, but I didn't think it was particularly good.

[McLovin]

The latest ep of GRIMM was far better than the previous couple have been. It seems to be the pattern that when Monroe plays a prominent part, the episode is good. The three guys scoping out Burkhardt's house was good for a laugh. And hey, we get to see Commander Ivanova again!

[Binder of Demons]

Anyone here watch HELL ON WHEELS? Need another show to watch as several of my shows have just concluded. I enjoyed DEADWOOD, and the basic plot sounds like it could be interesting. But I don't want to start a show that is crap, or likely to get cancelled soon.

[Abyss]

McLovin, on 12 December 2011 - 09:42 PM, said:

Abyss, on 12 December 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

PERSONS OF INTEREST was back last week, and i can't quite make up my mind about the ep. Either it was clever, multi-layered and interesting and moved the Elias subplot along, or it was trite, predictable and boderline insulting to the viewerbrain.

My vote is the latter. Seriously, Elias is just going to walk into a police station and drop flowers off at Carter's desk? Even if the police didn't recognize you as a wanted suspect, they wouldn't let you just waltz into the homicide bullpen.

Also, why did Grenade Launcher Jesus steal that car from Hector's shop and leave his motorbike at the scene? Then later he goes and gets it? Wouldn't somebody have noticed?

Somebody in the showrunning team's not paying attention.

This show is officially on warning status with me.

Binder of Demons, on 16 December 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Just watched the most recent episode of PERSON OF INTEREST and it was really good. Nice set up for future eps with his past becoming a more present danger. Despite some serious flaws, i have to say Person of Interest is one of the few shows i actually look forward to these days.

This ep was WAY better than last week's. The central plotline with the coke money and the four numbers was a bit of a stretch but it played well with the CIA (or whoever) looking for Gun Jesus and the aftermath of him saving Carter. And the hairdresser scene was priceless.

McLovin, on 14 December 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Caught up on GRIMM with the Pigs and Deadmaus eps. Barely tolerable, IMO. Dunno how this is doing ratings-wise but they seriously need to up their game.

EDIT - TVbythenumbers says renewal is likely.

McLovin, on 19 December 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

The latest ep of GRIMM was far better than the previous couple have been. It seems to be the pattern that when Monroe plays a prominent part, the episode is good. The three guys scoping out Burkhardt's house was good for a laugh. And hey, we get to see Commander Ivanova again!

I suspect that the three guys' at his house is going to turn into something more sinister eventually, possibly the set of events that kills off his fiance who really does have a massive plot development driven target all over her.

While predictable this was a way better ep and played nicely off the whole 'girl raised by wolves' urban legend and other elements. I liked Monroe way more here than in the pigs ep.

Always nice to see Ivanova get work. She's really dropped to 'somewhat recognizable speaking part extra' over the years, sadly.

[Tapper]

Bought myself The Killing aka Forbrydelsen (which makes it the real Danish one, not the american spin-off) on DVD. 8 episodes in (

Spoiler

Nanna's teacher has just been arrested for talking Turkish on the phone),

and I'm hooked. If someone can wield silence like a sledgehammer, it's inspector Lund.

What impresses me most is the camera-style of the series, it is quiet, cold, very uncomfortable at times, like looking at a series of still-life paintings.
I am not too convinced on why we get all those Lund + mama Lund scenes (not to mention all the idiotic phone convo's with Bengt and him driving to Copenhagen for what seems like every two days... doesn't he have a job, as well?), and everyone in the series is a slave to their mobile phones... don't think I've ever seen anyone pick up their phone every single time ever (apart from Theis in the truck with Kemal after Nanna's funeral).