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  1. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    07 November 2019 - 11:50 PM

    View Postparan falcon, on 07 November 2019 - 01:34 PM, said:

    View PostTerez, on 06 November 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

    View Postparan falcon, on 06 November 2019 - 09:59 PM, said:

    Just saw that Michael McElhatton (recently Roose Bolton on GoT) is on board to play Tam al'Thor. I can see that. It'll be strange seeing him smile, which I would think he is going to need to do as Tam is not a dour man. Possibly an expanded role for Tam, considering he is rarely seen after the early part of EotW?

    Tam is a pretty constant presence throughout the series because he's one of the Two Rivers men who leaves the Two Rivers with Perrin.

    Yes that's true. Perhaps I should've said that he's out of the picture for a good length of time, in the books. Isn't it a couple books, at least, before he reappears?

    There is some discussion of him in those books because he and Abell Cauthon went to Tar Valon to try to find the Two Rivers folk. That was off-screen, but they could easily make it on-screen. Perrin returns to the Two Rivers in The Shadow Rising (book 4), but we're not expecting them to do one book per season. Once Perrin returns to the Two Rivers, Tam is a constant in his plotline; he had a leadership role and they can make him a very important and visible character without straying very much from the books at all.
  2. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    06 November 2019 - 10:03 PM

    View Postparan falcon, on 06 November 2019 - 09:59 PM, said:

    Just saw that Michael McElhatton (recently Roose Bolton on GoT) is on board to play Tam al'Thor. I can see that. It'll be strange seeing him smile, which I would think he is going to need to do as Tam is not a dour man. Possibly an expanded role for Tam, considering he is rarely seen after the early part of EotW?

    Tam is a pretty constant presence throughout the series because he's one of the Two Rivers men who leaves the Two Rivers with Perrin.
  3. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    16 August 2019 - 11:58 AM

    View PostCause, on 16 August 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

    The two rivers were black this whole time, I need to go rethink my life! I'm not sure how to interrupt those quotes though. The Aiel are extremely pale, not being as pale as them doesn't mean your not Caucasian.

    I didn't say it did. In fact I said it would require a headcanon shift, but it's not that extreme so it's not anything we can't deal with as a fandom.

    View PostCause, on 16 August 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

    Elaida also needs to look at Rands untanned skin to point out the difference.

    She wouldn't have pushed back his sleeve if she didn't notice his skin was different already.

    View PostCause, on 16 August 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

    Once we met greater Andor which is undoubtedly 'British' so to speak the idea of all Andor being Caucasian was definitely cemented for me.

    Andor isn't British. They have British accents. The Aiel have Slavic accents, according to RJ, but (stereotypical) Irish coloring, Native American culture (to name one), etc. The WoT cultures are each drawn fro several cultures. Ishara was as dark as any of the Sea Folk. Modern-day Andorans are described as being "as dark as" other WoT ethnicities occasionally.
  4. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    16 August 2019 - 10:07 AM

    I haven't been glued to the discussions like I would have been back in the day, but I did jump in a bit more today because I saw some people arguing that RJ said in multiple interviews/signing reports that the Andorans were supposed to be English in ethnicity. And apparently not even the hardcore fans felt confident enough that they could prove that negative. I built the interview database, though, at least as far as research and data entry go - the only person who really helped me with that was my roommate - so I was pretty confident he'd never said that. He only said their accents were British/English. Anyway, I did some searches to verify that and chimed in, and I also dropped a bunch of quotes from the books. These two explicitly say the Two Rivers folk have dark skin, in RJ's first book, and his last:

    TEOTW 40 said:

    Elaida had put down her knitting, Rand realized, and was studying him. She rose from her stool and slowly came down from the dais to stand before him. "From the Two Rivers?" she said. She reached a hand toward his head; he pulled away from her touch, and she let her hand drop. "With that red in his hair, and gray eyes? Two Rivers people are dark of hair and eye, and they seldom have such height." Her hand darted out to push back his coat sleeve, exposing lighter skin the sun had not reached so often. "Or such skin."

    TEOTW 29 said:

    Tam was on the slope, now, and more Two Rivers men were pouring out of the fog with longbows in hand. Some tried to mingle with the men who had followed Perrin, to reunite with brothers, sons, nephews, friends, but Tam chivvied them away, trotting his black gelding up and down as he arranged them in three ever-expanding ranks to either side of the horsemen. Perrin spotted Hu Barran and his equally lanky brother Tad, the stablemen from the Winespring Inn, and square-faced Bar Dowtry, only a few years older than he himself was, who was making a name for himself as a cabinetmaker, and skinny Thad Torfinn, who seldom left his farm except to come into Emond's Field. Oren Dautry. lean and tall, stood between Jon Ayellin. who was hulking and bald, and Kev Barstere, who finally had gotten out from under his mother's thumb if he was here. There were Marwins and al'-Dais, al'Seens and Coles. Thanes and al'Caars and Crawes, men from every family he knew, men he did not recognize, from down to Deven Ride or up to Watch Hill or Taren Ferry, all grim-faced and burdened with pairs of bristling quivers and extra sheaves of arrows. And among them stood others, men with coppery skins, men with transparent veils across the lower half of their faces, fair-skinned men who just did not have the look of the Two Rivers.

    There are a lot of generalized quotes about Two Rivers people being darker than the average Andoran, and Andorans being darker than the average Cairhienin, etc. I think it was headcanon for most people that African features were limited to Shara (Africa) and Seanchan (American melting pot), while Randland is some kind of rigid European parallel with plenty of dark-skinned races but nothing African. So it's a bit of a headcanon shift, but nothing too extreme.

    There are a lot of quotes supporting diversity in skin color in the Two Rivers and in Andor, but I think skin-color diversity is not really what the controversy is about. It's about other African features, like facial features and hair texture, and also Aboriginal Australian features, which in the case of Madeleine Madden (Egwene) strike me as being closer to Indian than African stereotypes. Barney Harris (Mat) has a Mesopotamian look which seems a bit whitewashed in some of his headshots. It's a lot more obvious in his candid shots.
  5. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    15 August 2019 - 04:17 AM

    It's not anyone I know; just randos on public Facebook pages and Twitter and YouTube. There was this one dude on Facebook who was like "they look like crap except matt" and then he went on this rant about how he's read the books 10 times and we need to reread them and I was like "dude you read the books 10 times and you can't even spell Mat".

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    Gem Windcaster 

    26 May 2019 - 23:08
    Happy birthday! <3
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    Tsundoku 

    26 May 2019 - 20:15
    Happy 39th ;)
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    Gem Windcaster 

    14 May 2019 - 14:40
    Sweden is good - how are you?
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    Gem Windcaster 

    14 May 2019 - 09:32
    Hello woman, how've you been? <3
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    Tsundoku 

    02 Jun 2018 - 09:57
    Well it's nice to know you're still around and hopefully doing well. :)
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    Tsundoku 

    27 May 2018 - 03:52
    Happy birthday. I won't mention what number it is. ;)
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    Tsundoku 

    27 May 2017 - 00:45
    I am the ghost of birthdays future. Woooooooooo, you will have cake ... :D
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    Tsundoku 

    27 May 2017 - 00:33
    Happy birthday old duck ;)
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    worry 

    11 Nov 2016 - 20:45
    Haha. And it's true now more than ever!
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    Macros 

    26 Jul 2016 - 21:23
    I deleted Facebook entirely, to easy to procrastinate on it, and it served no real.function in my life.
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    Macros 

    26 Jul 2016 - 20:59
    Clear out your pm inbox!
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    Tsundoku 

    01 Jul 2016 - 19:24
    Fair enough. You certainly like your looooooooooong stories though. ;)
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    Andorion 

    28 Jun 2016 - 13:12
    Thanks for the reply! :)
    I'll tell my friend its a little researched grey area.
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    Andorion 

    26 Jun 2016 - 03:22
    Hey sorry to disturb, but I a friend recently asked me something and I thought you might be able to help.
    She basically asked if there was any connection between a person's preference for musical tunes/harmonies and instruments and that persons personality.
    I don't know anything about this and was wondering if you had heard of any studies or theories.
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    Tsundoku 

    26 May 2016 - 20:08
    Happy birthday :)
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