[Pallol One Eye]

Yay! I just noticed that Sanderson's website says he's 23% of the way through the First draft of AMOL.

There is of course a bad side to that, there's still 77% to go for the First draft.

Does that mean my glass is half full or half empty. Well I guess it means its 23% full. Keep on fillin her up Mr. Sanderson!! I know your putting your best foot forward!

Joking aside, I for one will wait patiently for this book, however long it takes, and if it needs to take a while for it to be good, then that's fine with me.

Pallol, Patience is a virture, Patience is a virtue, Patience is a virtue

[paladin]

well, thats faster than jordan ever did

[Gem Windcaster]

Terez;331051 said:

Most of the complaints with the later books have more to do with people having to wait years for them to come out than them actually being bad books. Like, the Perrin/Faile plotline in the last few books doesn't take too long to read through now that they're all out, but it's frustrating when it takes years to get through because there's only one book every other year or so.

I think they were all great books.

You know (and I will probably be negrepped for this), I find it really ironic and tragic that if RJ could have kept the same pace as SE when writing books, he would have finished the whole WoT series by now, and we would never have had this horrible oh-noes-I-am-terminately-ill-and-I-cant-finish-my-life-work kinda situation.

[Terez]

Not really...he specified that the percentage bar is only for the draft version, and doesn't count revising, which generally takes a lot longer. Also, he's working off of guidelines that RJ set, so there's already the foundation of the notes to build on.

[Terez]

Gem Windcaster;331873 said:

You know (and I will probably be negrepped for this), I find it really ironic and tragic that if RJ could have kept the same pace as SE when writing books, he would have finished the whole WoT series by now, and we would never have had this horrible oh-noes-I-am-terminately-ill-and-I-cant-finish-my-life-work kinda situation.

You know, if Erikson took a little more time with his books, he might not have such huge inconsistencies as his horrible timeline.

[Gem Windcaster]

Terez;331877 said:

You know, if Erikson took a little more time with his books, he might not have such huge inconsistencies as his horrible timeline.

The timeline doesn't matter, the timeline doesn't matter, the timeline doesnt' matter! :GA:

[Obdigore]

Perhaps if he produced books quickly and didn't just stop moving timelines forward because he is trying to touch on them all and his editor is failing, people would be willing to forgive any discrepencies in the timelines?

[Terez]

Perhaps.

[Gem Windcaster]

Well, time is relative anyway.

[Skywalker]

This thread is beginning to border on Malazan heresy.

Don't. Diss. The. Creator.



On topic though... I am personally very curious to see how Moridin, Shaidar Haran, and Demandred fit into the dark hierarchy...

[Gabriele]

Obdigore;331815 said:

Gabriele - that is also like Gemmel's stones of power thing. Atlantis and temptation and all. Sounds like yours isn't going to be a meteor though, which is good!

Argh. Damn writer's subconsciousness, soaking up everything and then cook and stir it until it looks original.

[Terez]

Skywalker;331900 said:

I am personally very curious to see how Moridin, Shaidar Haran, and Demandred fit into the dark hierarchy...

There seems to be little issue of precedence between Nae'blis and Superfade - I would call them equals - but those two are definitely > Demandred. Demandred was teased with Nae'blis in Lord of Chaos, but Moridin has been officially pronounced Nae'blis, and access to the True Power has been restricted to his use only, and probably also visits to the Bore.

[Abyss]

Terez;331877 said:

You know, if Erikson took a little more time with his books, he might not have such huge inconsistencies as his horrible timeline.

DIE HERETIC!!!!



- Abyss, because the timeline is not important, the timeline is not important, the timeline is not important...

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I'm sure RJ had a much easier time with his timeline, as entire books covered the amazing span of 30 minutes or so...

[Skywalker]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;331951 said:

I'm sure RJ had a much easier time with his timeline, as entire books covered the amazing span of 30 minutes or so...

Ouch...

And in RJ's defense... Crossroads of Twilight was spread over several DAYS!!!!Thought you should know.

Ahem

Anyway...

Terez;331925 said:

There seems to be little issue of precedence between Nae'blis and Superfade - I would call them equals - but those two are definitely > Demandred. Demandred was teased with Nae'blis in Lord of Chaos, but Moridin has been officially pronounced Nae'blis, and access to the True Power has been restricted to his use only, and probably also visits to the Bore.

Touche... there is no question Demandred is the lesser of the three... but wouldn't it be just like the Dark One to say "Go Forth and Give Becoming the Next Nae'blis a Shot", esp if Demandred = Taim and can deliver the Black Tower? (For us RJ afficionados the whole Demandred = Taim thing was kinda like is Traveller = Dassem until RJ stepped in to say no he aint... sigh... fond memories)

Between Superfade and Ish-idin I sense a great reckoning coming. Both are too freakin egomaniacal to tolerate an equal.

Can't wait for book 12, in spite of CoT.

Skywalker - also would like to know who killed freaking Asmodean, once and for all...

[Illuyankas]

@Skywalker: Yeah, COT was several days. The same several days as WH, only covering the boring storylines. Oh, and I believe I read somewhere that Graendal was the most likely one to have done it, but someone who actually can make a coherent guess can correct me on that if they want.

[Terez]

Skywalker;331959 said:

Touche... there is no question Demandred is the lesser of the three... but wouldn't it be just like the Dark One to say "Go Forth and Give Becoming the Next Nae'blis a Shot", esp if Demandred = Taim and can deliver the Black Tower? (For us RJ afficionados the whole Demandred = Taim thing was kinda like is Traveller = Dassem until RJ stepped in to say no he aint... sigh... fond memories)

Yeah, Demandred's definitely not Taim (RJ killed it forever in Winter's Heart), and Taim is most likely a protege of Ishamael, going back before the series began. He even uses Moridin's colors to decorate his castle.

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Between Superfade and Ish-idin I sense a great reckoning coming. Both are too freakin egomaniacal to tolerate an equal.

I doubt it. There's absolutely no evidence of a power struggle between them - only between Shaidar Haran and the other Forsaken, and Moridin and the other Forsaken. Moridin and Shaidar Haran appear to be best buddies. The chapter "Mindtrap" in A Crown of Swords in particular illuminates that relationship.

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Skywalker - also would like to know who killed freaking Asmodean, once and for all...

Terez could not care less.

Oh, and by the way...WoT spans about two years so far, not counting prequel type stuff, but all of the plotlines are consistent with each other down to the phases of the moon...

[Cougar]

When reading some of the WoT books you can actually end up reading them for longer than the actual book lasts.

I loved the stories at first but I just bloody hate the characters, they are all irritating as hell. Self obsessed, moody,childish, stereotypical, repetitive, improbable.

[Macros]

I dont know why whoever (not reading back up the page, awfully lazy today) said the women were all unique, they are not, they're all maniacal powermad bitches who need to shut the hell up. [/rant]
Is that our terez as an ancient in there I see? I never really got what the hype over asmodeans death was about, he was a douche and the weakest of the forsaken anyway, his death meant as much to me as a penny chew.
Correct that, I would love a penny chew right now, it meant as much to me as... dog poop.

[Zelech]

Yeah, Asmodean's death seems to captivate a lot more interest...which I too don't comprehend.

But it means there was someone there, near Rand, who is/was a very important person. Why didn't they assassinate Rand? Are they on Rand's side?
...That is just "spin-mastering" to see what might be intrigueing about it.

I think RJ hit his upper limit on unique personalities while hesitating on letting characters keep a consistent personality through-out. It didn't bother me overly, but there are certainly times when the lady-folk seem to be different mood-sets of the same personality, bouncing from immature to mature regardless of the maturity shown by the character before. So...you led several hundred women and commanded authority with the countries' leaders, but now you act like a teenager throwing a hissy-fit for chapters on end [Siuane]?

But still, I enjoy WoT. Need to reread it again, methinks.