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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:28 PM

Glad someone revived this wanted to add my view.

agree with what alot of people have said Eddings used to be my favorite author along with Gemmel. Until that is the elder gods book which was the worst piece of rubbish i've ever read but in his defense it is obviously written as a mental aid for amnesiacs as every time you turn a page he insists on explaining everything again and again and again. There is one bit where one of the farmers 'invents' a spear and the soldiers think it is wonderful that he has invented something so quickly that took them hundreds of years to do. His answer to this praise "err i just wanted to stab someone far away.........WTF???? I'm hoping when i finish this book i can progress onto something a bit harder like See spot run. I've never seen so much retrograding in a writing style. Maybe he doesn't write his books anymore he's invented a robot out of a HB pencil some sticky back plastic and a broken speak and spell that writes for him while he chases butterflies in the garden.

Rant over, also want to say i also progressed from Eddings to Jorden to SE with Prattchet and Gemmel running through them all as light reads for when i'm on the bus or have a hangover.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:55 PM

View PostGem Windcaster, on Mar 27 2008, 08:25 PM, said:

... Eddings should totally have made Silk the main character LOL.


But then the whole series would have amounted to...

Belgarath: "Silk! You are the Chosen One! You must recover the magic rock thing and then kill Torak!"
Silk: "Ok." *Steals the rock, resells it for millions, resteals it, nukes Murgotown, stabs Torak in the back, gets hammered with Barak and Mandomellon and then has a four-way with Polgara, Ce'Nedra and that purple-eyed slave woman.*
Fans: "Yay! Best fantasy story EVER!!! More! MORE!! Give us MORE!!!!"
Eddings: "Ok." *writes a sequel. same things happen. *
Old Fans: "Hey, you did that last time."
New Fans: ""Yay! Best fantasy story EVER!!! More! MORE!! Give us MORE!!!!"

View PostGem Windcaster, on Mar 29 2008, 08:46 AM, said:

Yeah, those books needed a really tragic moment. LIke the death of Ce'nedra - I'd have totally cheered.


View PostVarunwe, on Mar 29 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

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Yeah, those books needed a really tragic moment. LIke the death of Ce'nedra - I'd have totally cheered.


That wouldn't have been tragic, it would have been a relief :D


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View PostSalt-Man Z, on Mar 31 2008, 04:20 PM, said:

Yes, I must admit that Durnik's "death" at the end of The Belgariad shocked me, but only because I had already read the back of the first book of The Mallorean (my wife was reading them at the time) so I knew he survived, and I was confused.


It would have helped if they hadn't called him 'The Man Who Lives Twice' for most of the series, too.



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Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:58 PM

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 07:06 PM

View PostAbyss, on Mar 4 2009, 11:55 AM, said:

View PostSalt-Man Z, on Mar 31 2008, 04:20 PM, said:

Yes, I must admit that Durnik's "death" at the end of The Belgariad shocked me, but only because I had already read the back of the first book of The Mallorean (my wife was reading them at the time) so I knew he survived, and I was confused.

It would have helped if they hadn't called him 'The Man Who Lives Twice' for most of the series, too.

Really, they only mentioned in one or two times, and I totally didn't make the connection. The "death" also surprised me because it was pretty apparent that this was one of those series where none of the Important Characters actually dies.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 07:54 PM

but he didn't friggin die!
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 08:44 PM

Well he did... He just got better again almost straight away.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 08:45 PM

Out of curiosity, why did Torak and Garion have to grow huuge at the end of the Belgariad? Did he think a normal swordfight just wasn't cule enough??
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:22 PM

View PostLisheo, on Mar 4 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, why did Torak and Garion have to grow huuge at the end of the Belgariad? Did he think a normal swordfight just wasn't cule enough??



Real explanation: yes.

Book explanation: the Prophecies were just TOO BIG to be contained by a cranky god and a teenager.

Y'know, in retrospect that was one of the clever things DE did have going... the whole notion of dueling prophecies, both of which were equally valid and active. It's trite but it worked and but i can't recall another fantasy author working it that way - usually there is just a clever twist on the wording of the prophecy or else whomever was supposed to die does but then gets better.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:24 PM

Well, the "clever" twist was that Torak wasn't the "last" chosen of the dark prophecy, or some rubbish like that... :D
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:25 PM

So why didn't the duelling prophesies at the end of the Mallorean... Oh, never mind
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:27 PM

I actually erased the end of that from my mind, what happens again?
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 12:39 AM

View PostLisheo, on Mar 4 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

I actually erased the end of that from my mind, what happens again?

As far as I remember, the two prophesies has to become one prophecy, and there's this neutral part, a girl, that has to choose between them. I think there's something Belgarion does too, but I forget what exactly. It gets pretty silly though.
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 01:29 AM

View PostGem Windcaster, on Mar 5 2009, 12:39 AM, said:

View PostLisheo, on Mar 4 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

I actually erased the end of that from my mind, what happens again?

As far as I remember, the two prophesies has to become one prophecy, and there's this neutral part, a girl, that has to choose between them. I think there's something Belgarion does too, but I forget what exactly. It gets pretty silly though.



And then whatsherface badgirly gets torn apart and the stars in her skin get sent to heal the rift in spacetime. Awfully convenient that in a situation where both sides had an equal chance of winning, the loser happened to be the one who'd been twinkling for most of the series. The Powers That Be would have felt silly if she'd won - bits of fleshy Garion filling out the sky would have looked silly, although been far more amusing.
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 03:00 AM

Check out his non -fantasy novel "High Hunt".
not written for YA it was actually pretty good.
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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:10 AM

I WAS Durnik! Amazing how things pall as you get older. His stuff with sparhawk as hero was dreadful.

Apropos of nothing, TG is appallingly bad.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:56 AM

The fact he never killed anyone really irks me. Seriously, his characters were so crap I'm suprised they didn't all cop it.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:05 AM

Toth died. I didn't miss him.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 10:53 AM

Now THAT is where he is weak. "Ooh, one will die in the end. Who's it gonna be?" It turns out to be the guy who never said a word. Seriously, what the fuck.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:01 PM

I tried reading Eddings once, it was too boring for me...
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:07 PM

I bought the first book in a series I think is called the Sleepers, it's called the Elder Gods.

I was so angry when I finally finished it. This famous author who's books are on all bookshelves every where and every body prattles on about and that is what this great author is able to produce? I swear to god Eragon is a better book/film than that, I would rather read Goodkind than read more Eddings.
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