[Urb]

Awesome
Thanks SE and Hetan.

This fits nicely with my hopes of the stranger being Fisher.

Jorram;273523 said:

Mal, on pt.3 you mean Karsa's trip to 7Cities, right?

Thats cool, I only have troubles accepting Silchas&co. wandering for years. Should hardly take more than a few months to go from Letheras to the Bluerose, even in hiding. I think one of the inquisitors in RG made such a journey in weeks.

It is stated directly in RG from either Udinaas' or Seren's POV that they've been wandering for years, avoiding patrols in their search for a way west. Sorry, no quote. My book is in another city right now . It's somewhere close to the end if I remember correctly.

[Skywalker]

Thank you SE and Hetan. *bows*

And now, crazy mobsters all, repeat after me:

"The timeline is not important".

No seriously... Do you want SE to swoop in and pull a D'rek on you? Do you want me to come in to the forum one day and find it splattered with blood and a drunk Hetan looking for Banaschar with eels hanging off her like dreds?

So...

The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
(need a rosary bead string?)
The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
The timeline is not important
(ad nauseam, ad infinitum)

[Ammanas]

I'd like to thank Steven and express my amazement for thanking US for our patience in waiting for the prologue. I'm not sure we had much; what a gracious man.

I respect the man even more now that I know he's a Zep fan, lyrics aside. You haven't lived till you've heard Kashmir live:)

[greenteam]

cheers hetan:)
never really paid much attention to timeline myself......
as i said before think the third guy is toc the elder.....fingers crossed

[drinksinbars]

cheers steve.

nothing wrong with that music, i loisten to lots of that stuff myself!!

[Mentalist]

Sweet.. Many thanks to both Steven Erikson+ Hetan

So, this clears up several problems. I will now assume that Karsa was captured in the beginning of the first year of the siege of Pale and that gives him approx. 4 years to do his thing before we meet him in DG... (lol, yes I am a freak when it comes to dates, I cant let go of the concept of chronology, so sue me).

Also, this moves up the question of "What is the Nascent?" up there in my list of "The Big MBotF questions", along with "What is the technical definition of a warren" and a number of ancient races questions. hmmmm..

[Lisheo]

Steve, Hetan, you two are amazing.
Led Zep? NICE

[Gem Windcaster]

Well, that was interesting. Thanks for the letter SE! And thank you Hetan.

So, the timeline... Well, of course the printed dates doesn't really matter, if anything the present smallish discussion in the Inn about our own timeline -the possible errors in it, would suggest that it's the correct way to view things.


- Gem, needs time measurements...

[Jorram]

Urb said:

Awesome
Thanks SE and Hetan.

This fits nicely with my hopes of the stranger being Fisher.

It is stated directly in RG from either Udinaas' or Seren's POV that they've been wandering for years, avoiding patrols in their search for a way west. Sorry, no quote. My book is in another city right now . It's somewhere close to the end if I remember correctly.

You mean east? And that someone in the book would say it, doesnt mean that it's logical and realistic But no matter, this is so minor an issue that it's not worth arguing.

I'd cross fingers for your Fisher theory. I like it best

[Pallol One Eye]

Thanks Steve for taking the time....
Thanks Hetan for Posting....

[Mentalist]

huh? since when is Ruin + co wondering a point of contention? what did I miss here?

To me, at least, that was pretty obvious--Fear left at the end of MT. since then, the Edur needed to construct fleets, send them out, find out that Binadas died from encountering Karsa, then send out Tomad's fleet.... I wouldn't be surprised if the point in RG where the parts of Iccy's machine are coming into motion, in the beginning of RG are correspondent to when iccy boards an Edur ship in tBH..

[Pallol One Eye]

Timeline stuff makes sense considering the mundane modes of transportation, Sailing ship, galleys, horses that would be employed by most people. We have no precise size of the Planet so it sounds good to me.

It took Francis Drake 3 years to circumnavigate the globe after all. Though he could of done it in a baloon in 80 days! Fiddler is reputedly working on a Cusser fueled ramjet!

[Imperial Historian]

Thanks to SE and Hetan for clearing that up.

Quote

huh? since when is Ruin + co wondering a point of contention? what did I miss here?

because as the timeline currently stands, ruin and co have been wandering through lether for at least 10 years, possibly more between the end of MT and RG, which is something of a problem, but one we decided to solve by simply ignoring it. Oh and if there's a quote putting a timeframe on silchas' wanderings, i've not found it, and I spent long enough looking.

[Abyss]

YAY!

SE speaks! neat. Much thanks to him for taking the time.

Hetan & Mal, you rock.

I note that i've been championing the 'stuff happens, then other stuff happens' approach as well as 'time in warrens is screwy' thing for ages!

- Abyss, proud sponsor of 'the timeline is not important'...

[Sa'yless Lorthal]

Thanks for the posting - and being relaxed about timelines. I was trying really hard to figure out sequences and parallels of time with the books. Love your music choices and somehow fitting!

Hetan - awesome!

[caladanbrood]

Xander;273473 said:

First to read!

Ha, at least you didn't quite sink to "F1r5t P05t!" trolling:p

I've always gone for the "stuff happens, other stuff happens" approach too. It's so much easier:) Cheers for posting this!

[ShadowOwl]

"Trust me when I say that what's on its way ain't her carriage. That section, with the two corpses, needs to be read through to a deeper level than what's on the surface."

Thank you SE! and Hetan and Mal!!
Now we have something new to focus on - the meeting of previous and current 'rulers of shadow' - who is wearing the hood, what is going on there, and wonder what sounds like a carriage, but is something scary....
Good to know this is something to look deeper into - ideas?

[Slum]

Thanks, Steve and Hetan!

SE:"That section, with the two corpses, needs to be read through to a deeper level than what's on the surface."

I think the fighting dogs and the handing over of the leash is significant in terms of its symbolism.

[Quick~]

Wow thanks firstly to Steven for taking the time to write that for our consumption.

Lots of enlightening information in there, certainly can't wait to find out who the third member at Kruppe's fire was (time to jump on the FKT bandwagon?) and the reasons behind the Nascent being a little out of kilter with the basic laws will be another interesting bit of info.

onto music, wow, Dylan, Cohen, Talking Heads, Sinatra, Crowded House, Zep, Neil Young and Nick Cave! Thats some excellent music right there in my opinion (a lack of knowledge unfortunately betrays me on most of the others).

The prologue was thoroughly worth waiting on!

thanks also to Hetan for again being the bringer of wonderful gifts.

[Old Hunch Arbat]

Hume;273477 said:

....
Not often an author steps in to tell their fans some of their speculation is worthelss and to move on to other stuff!
(much better than a RAFO )

He's probably lying.



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