[Imperial Historian]

I know Malaclypse has been working hard to try and resolve SE's timeline screwups into a workable timeline in collaboration with Steve, which has involved ignoring some dates (in fact it's noticeable that SE has stopped using dates since BH), so we'll see what the official explanation is.

[Slum]

Is there any possibility that the Faces in the Rock are pulling some strings where Karsa's offspring are concerned? Do they have that type of power? In league with the CG, perhaps? Are they even still a factor? And what about Dayliss's child (mentioned on pg. 39 in HOC MMPB)?

[Dolorous Menhir]

Regarding the Seven Faces (aka the Unbound), I've been assuming they've ditched the Teblor. They posed as the Teblor gods because they had no choice - they were trapped, and grooming a likely Teblor to free them was their objective.

Once Karsa did that, they moved on to other things. And if they did have any post-freedom plans for the Teblor, I think it's safe to say that Karsa has ruined them.

[Aptorian]

There was one of the unbound that controlled a little secret tribe of crippled teblor children.

I doubt that issue is resolved yet.

[caladanbrood]

I imagine the faces are still worshipped, but only as absent gods, they themselves will have long abandoned their places there. What good could they do the CG stuck in a rock anyway? He already has Karsa to manipulate with the Teblor, he won't need their gods too.

[Illuyankas]

Aptorian;266510 said:

There was one of the unbound that controlled a little secret tribe of crippled teblor children.

I doubt that issue is resolved yet.

Well, the disfigured Teblor are still around, but their Unbound sort of got cut in half and thrown into a sea to dissolve in HoC, so that's one army of brainwashed Teblor looking for a cause.

[Optimus Prime]

Well we may just be worrying to much about this. They may just be mentioned in the prologue to give us the hint that Karsa is returning...that's it.

I know, it doesn't sound like SE at all...but they may only figure prominently in Karsa's return to the Teblor...and after that...who knows?

[Venerus]

Aptorian;266510 said:

There was one of the unbound that controlled a little secret tribe of crippled teblor children.

I doubt that issue is resolved yet.

Siballe The Unfound was the one who controlled the kiddies, and she's also the one Karsa dissolved in HoC. So while the army could (and should?) still exist, it lacks a definitive Imass leader. Presumably, when Siballe left to hound Karsa, she left some kind of standing orders with her mutilated army. You're totally right though, that whole group is totally unresolved -- maybe TtH sees more of it, maybe Dayliss's kid takes over. ::shrug::

[Aptorian]

A bunch of CG controlled Teblor is going to be a shitstorm of a severe magnitude if it hits the Malazans... I can't wait

[caladanbrood]

Well, it's unlikely to be CG controlled, Karsa will get there first, and possibly just do exactly the opposite of what the CG wants him to;)

Then again, he'll probably just go kick some malazans ass first, so their aims will coincide.

[buddhacat]

Why should it hit the Malazans? Karsa has said, in so many words, that the Malazans are not his enemy, and he keeps his word. Case closed.

[caladanbrood]

Because the Teblor hate them. I mean Karsa's good and all, but how exactly is he gonna move a Teblor army down from the highlands without going through malazan territory, antagonising both sides? The CG sent him back, but I'm fairly sure he can't make his own portals...

[Slum]

An even crazier, stupider theory to makes sense of the time paradoxy thingy.

TTH's prologue and epilogue are bookended. Both take place after the events of TTH. Complementing each other.

The prologue left some pretty mean cliffhangers, and while I assume they'll be answered in the novel itself, perhaps they're just being set up by the events of TTH. Maybe...

I honestly don't have a clue. The lack of dates pretty much leaves it wide open for speculation.

[caladanbrood]

A prologue being set after the novel?

That's... crazier than most theories;) I have seen it happen once before, but it's hardly Erikson's modus operandi.

[Nequam]

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A prologue being set after the novel..

Ow. My...head...feels..kinda...KABLOOM!


*Neq's body proceeds to walk around, arms outstrechted looking for the pieces of his head*

[Tiger_sword]

I'm not really that concerned yet. I'm sure the answer to this "paradox" will become obvious when we have the entire book infront of us. Still its fun to speculate!

[buddhacat]

caladanbrood;266617 said:

Because the Teblor hate them. I mean Karsa's good and all, but how exactly is he gonna move a Teblor army down from the highlands without going through malazan territory, antagonising both sides? The CG sent him back, but I'm fairly sure he can't make his own portals...

Karsa will be their Warleader. That's sort of a King. What the Teblor think is of little relevance, it's what Karsa thinks that'll hold. That's the nature of that society. That the Teblor hate Children (generic) is known, Karsa has contempt for them too. But the Malazans are explicitly not an enemy. So unless the Teblor rebel against Karsa, there is no way they will initiate war with the Malazans.

Now, the Malazans - being ignorant - may provoke war (after all, Laseen is not exactly in full control.) That's not the same as the Teblor declaring war on the Malazans.

[caladanbrood]

Karsa ran away as a kid and hasn't been seen since... he'll do well to be in total control of them. Still, you're probably right, but it'll be dissapointment if he totally dominates them

[Hume]

You know you'se are all trying to 'figure out' how these two girls assuming they are daughters are as old they are now.

Isn't it possibly SE fucked up?

We know there are a few minor inconsistencies in GotM. Since then the only thing has been timeline which in itself hasn't been a real problem. But in regards to these two ageing too fast assuming they are his daughters this probably his first stuff up yet.

[caladanbrood]

We still don't know how long between the end of RG and the beginning of TTH. Thats the best hope of him not messing it up at the moment.