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Europeans and "Tipping"

#241 User is offline   Raymond Luxury Yacht 

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 08:15 AM

It's a fact. She says they provide better support to her yarbles, whatever that means.
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Posted 31 July 2008 - 10:55 PM

Did I mention that I won this thread?

Thank you.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 11:06 PM

Shinrei no Shintai;362972 said:

Did I mention that I won this thread?

Thank you.

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Did you? I don't remember any of your posts so that is doubtful, unless you agreed with me of course :D
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:16 PM

I think we agreed that people who don't tip suck.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:26 PM

We all know that, but we didn't agree on much else;)
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:28 PM

I thought we all agreed a long time ago that each culture has different proprieties for tipping and that we should follow the proprieties of whatever culture is appropriate?

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:29 PM

Shinrei no Shintai;363908 said:

I think we agreed that people who don't tip suck.


ah then, I'm agreeing with you :p

I guess that's what you have to do. Go by your location/culture.

So if any of you cheap Euro Trash come to the States, throw us some monies. It's worth more than ours anyway :p
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 01:22 AM

Terez;363911 said:

I thought we all agreed a long time ago that each culture has different proprieties for tipping and that we should follow the proprieties of whatever culture is appropriate?


Ah, but periodically we need to bring it back up to make sure we still agree! :p
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 01:28 AM

I disagree.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 01:43 AM

I concur with Cold Iron, but perhaps for a different reason.

If I'm overseas, I am going to tip. I don't care if it isn't the cultural norm there. It is my cultural norm. Besides, giving extra money never hurts.

However, if I worked at a place in the U.S. and didn't get tipped I'd pitch a fit. Not giving a tip sometimes does hurt.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 01:54 AM

In some places though, don't people actually get offended by getting tipped?
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 02:02 AM

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I disagree.

You would.

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 09:56 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;364304 said:

In some places though, don't people actually get offended by getting tipped?


Yeah, it's not uncommon. I've experienced that both in France and Germany... And also sometimes in Norway, though tipping is somewhat more normal here.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 02:47 PM

Don't tip in Japan, they'll just give it back to you.

Unrelated to tipping, but I was in a hurry once and I had exactly 1 yen (less than a US penny) coming to me in change for a convenience store purchase. I just grabbed my bag and walked out. The clerk chased me and caught me outside of the store and handed me my change.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 05:26 PM

jobs that generally have tips inthe US don't in Europe. its because waiters (for example) are trained people living a career. not the pimply part time high school student trying to make a buck. people over there take their job seriously. plus, they generally get payed mor that over here.

tipping is normal in the void?
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 05:56 PM

Bah, I guess I'd have to find out if tipping was "insulting" or just "generally not done" then. In the first case no, in the second case, still yes.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 09:36 PM

I don't tip often in the US. Out here in California, cost of living is high enough for me to be cheap, and I make little enough money for it to make a difference. (Common courtesy / the tipping public pays double the tax? That's like 16.5 % on top of the 8.25 sales tax, what? me pay 33% tax on a meal?) That'd break my balls.

I'll tip at a good restaurant, at the pub I want to be remembered at (since I technically am not supposed to be drinking there, I'm only 19), or for excellent service. But I just can't budget that kind of generosity on a regular basis.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 09:47 PM

Then don't eat out on a regular basis.

If I am at a fast food place, I won't tip. I will tip pretty much everywhere else. Anywhere someone has to bring me food/drinks, they need a tip, unless their service is poor. I will often leave 1 penny to let them know what I thought of their poor service.

Good service gets a lot bigger tip from me.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 09:48 PM

EDIT: Obdi beat me to it, but...

Adjutant Stormy;364856 said:

I'll tip at a good restaurant, at the pub I want to be remembered at (since I technically am not supposed to be drinking there, I'm only 19), or for excellent service. But I just can't budget that kind of generosity on a regular basis.

Then my suggestion to you would be not to eat out on a regular basis. Go get fast food if you can't afford to tip.

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:50 AM

Meh, he'll just be one of "those" people. But if he really can't afford it, why should he be banned from eating out?

Or budget accordingly at least. If leaving a tip means getting the cheap beer on the menu rather than the import, (or only having one instead of 2) that's could be considered. Not only does it save money for the tip, but lowers the total bill (meaning 15% will equal less money).

I guess that's what I get for being in teh service industry though, if my money in my wallet won't cover desert and the tip, I skip desert.

But what REALLY pisses any restaurant worker off, more than low tipping or anything else, is the people who come in at 5 minutes to close and sit down. Sure, we're open, but you've just guaranteed that everyone will be staying at work at least an hour later just for YOU. I don't know why people never stop and consider this...
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