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Some questions re NoK...

#21 Guest_Garm_*

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 06:02 PM

Sorry for the thread necromancy but: Is the grudge that Dassem Ultor holds against Hood explained in detail or just glossed over? And if it is: what happened?

#22 Cluracan AbSylvas

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 06:58 PM

Bear in mind I don't have my books with me, and my memory is muddy... Vaiski/IH?

But if I remember correctly, DU's grudge against Hood is based around the fact that his daughter was roped into one of the chainings by Hood and is now laying unconscious in an Azath House. I think DU's daughter was brought in because Envy decided to do her nails and not attend the chaining... and I think all this is mentioned in MOI. I don't remember NOK offering much news here.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 07:01 PM

@Garm - More detail on that in MoI chat between Envy and Krul than actually in NoK. Speculation runs that his daughter was claimed by Hood as a sacrifice of sorts to enact a chaining, and that she was there against Dassem's wishes, and because Envy refused to show up.

We do see in NoK just how motivated Dassem is to avoid being claimed by Hood, however. As in 'come back from the brink of death, recover totally and kill a bunch of Claw' motivated.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 07:36 PM

Abyss said:

Hmm, that chat I just reread this morning, that's why I asked.
NoK then isn't half as interesting as I hoped.

Garm, who thinks that Ultor befits both Mars and Dassem and also found that "squeeky clean" and "slippery as [beep]" coincide in regards to bathroom floors.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 08:54 PM

@Garm - I urge you not to let this revelation disuade you from reading NoK. I can tell you with complete honesty that the pace is good, the characterization strong, and the revelations are very very interesting. Not to mention some hellacious scraps.

Go get it and enjoy it... you might want to sell plasma before hand to be able to have the extra cash needed to buy the damn thing though.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 03:13 PM

Oh c'mon... plasma's a renewable resource. SACRIFICE for your hobby, dammit.

Anyrate, i do think NoK is worthwhile to a fan of the series. Not a necessity, but enjoyable. And there are a LOT of revelations regarding Dassem, just not the one in particular you were wondering about, Garm.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:29 AM

and having read NoK when reading tBH is a big plus!

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 03:25 PM

Morgoth said:

and having read NoK when reading tBH is a big plus!

You do this just to torture me, don't you.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:08 PM

ill assume abyss isnt a multi billionairre like the rest of us and cant afford NOK. I got it for christmas mwah ha hah ahahahaha. Neway abyss your not missing much. It is a bit random compared to other malazan books (the main series as im not gettin HD or Bf)

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:17 PM

Actually, Tiam, I had Nok ages ago, (which you would have known if you had read like three posts further up the thread

. I was referring, as i often am lately, to my protracted wait for TB.

cue...

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 06:55 PM

@Abyss - What if I bind my TPB in hardwood, and stretch some sheepskin across the cover when my girlfriend and I have finished reading it? We could then lend it to you as a limited edition hand bound hardback!

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:30 PM

Heh - Clurc, you have a deal. How quickly can you both finish it and where will you get the sheep?

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 08:09 PM

Somebody PM Tiste, he'll mail one to you. Used, but at a discount nonetheless

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