[Cause]

Iran can’t mine the strait, any ship or shore operation they attempt will be bombed within the hour. Drone strikes are enough deterrent for now I would think and probably cheaper.

I wonder if this war will finally get the gulf states to get these long imagined pipelines built to remove this vulnerable bottle neck.

Also I know it’s all about global supply and demand but now that the USA is a net exporter of oil surely the USA would be better off spending a few hundred billion on building the correct oil refineries domestically instead of a 12th aircraft carrier or whatever else to provide real national security improvements? Theoretically the USA should be able to be self sufficient energy wise. Which diringpeace time won’t matter but during war would.

This post has been edited by Cause: Yesterday, 09:04 PM

[Mentalist]

Cause, on 10 March 2026 - 09:02 PM, said:

Iran can’t mine the strait, any ship or shore operation they attempt will be bombed within the hour. Drone strikes are enough deterrent for now I would think and probably cheaper.

I wonder if this war will finally get the gulf states to get these long imagined pipelines built to remove this vulnerable bottle neck.

Also I know it’s all about global supply and demand but now that the USA is a net exporter of oil surely the USA would be better off spending a few hundred billion on building the correct oil refineries domestically instead of a 12th aircraft carrier or whatever else to provide real national security improvements? Theoretically the USA should be able to be self sufficient energy wise. Which diringpeace time won’t matter but during war would.

Air Carriers are SO 2003.

It's all about the trump-class dreadnoughts these days.

[Grief]

Trump is classic as ever "if Iran has put out any mines in the Hormuz Strait, and we have no reports of them doing so, we want them removed, IMMEDIATELY!".

The reports come from two anonymous sources so taking it with a grain of salt is very fair.

Meanwhile, the US has moved through "we can escort commercial shipping and have already escorted one ship" through to "we did not in fact escort a ship and are currently unable to offer escort". The lack of professionalism still shocks me.

[Garak]

The Trump administration wouldn't know what professionalism looks like even if it kicked them in the ass, right into jail.