[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

Abyss, on 03 August 2021 - 05:26 AM, said:

Garak, on 02 August 2021 - 07:39 PM, said:

Midnight Tides. I don't recall any Marines in that one. Which makes sense considering the POV characters and the location.

Arguably Iron Bars' squad fills that role.

From Stonewielder, two Stormguard soldiers discussing the current champion Iron Bars

-He accomplished some amazing feats.
-True. 'Cept he laughs like a lunatic every time we call him Malazan.

[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

Just going to add what may have been my favorite quote from this book as it hasn't been mentioned yet. The epigraph for Chapter 21, the Malazan Imperial Magistrate's resolution to the land dispute in one of the provinces where they order both parties lands burned to the ground and salted, and all the people involved banished from the province.

Quote

The world is full of petty small-minded bastards and in this case it was simply unfortunate that they happened to live next to each other. Now they don't.

That kind of perfectly sums up Malazan justice to me, and I love that it continued through to the reign of Mallick Rel.

[Limper]

Loved it.
Stillwater was awesome.
Was SE trying to draw parallels to modern day climate change and evolving military technology? (kind of hard to doubt it)
Can't wait for Rant to meet daddy.
Didn't understand Gruff, didn't care enough I guess. Need to pay more attention to him on the re-read.
Spectral companions sure carry a lot of weight in this book!
Kind of wanted to see Teblor hounds meet Hounds of Shadow (preferably without getting brutally massacred). Maybe that's in a future book.
A minor concern - this introduces a new series, but I'm not sure a new reader could appreciate it by half, without having read MBOTF. Without knowing Karsa, and knowing Malazans, I would probably be kind of confused and far less interested.

This post has been edited by Limper: 23 November 2021 - 09:18 AM

[Limper]

WhiskeyJackDaniels, on 23 November 2021 - 01:00 AM, said:

Just going to add what may have been my favorite quote from this book as it hasn't been mentioned yet. The epigraph for Chapter 21, the Malazan Imperial Magistrate's resolution to the land dispute in one of the provinces where they order both parties lands burned to the ground and salted, and all the people involved banished from the province.

Quote

The world is full of petty small-minded bastards and in this case it was simply unfortunate that they happened to live next to each other. Now they don't.

That kind of perfectly sums up Malazan justice to me, and I love that it continued through to the reign of Mallick Rel.

Note the magistrate's name: Ilgish the Torcher. Distant relative of Sinn's? Fire solves everything.

This post has been edited by Limper: 24 November 2021 - 06:48 AM

[Limper]

Wonder where Mael was during all this? He must be aware when water, even meltwater floods substantial areas of land. Should he take an active role or sit back, eat popcorn, and enjoy the show?

This post has been edited by Limper: 24 November 2021 - 06:39 AM

[Abyss]

Limper, on 24 November 2021 - 06:22 AM, said:

Wonder where Mael was during all this? He must be aware when water, even meltwater floods substantial areas of land. Should he take an active role or sit back, eat popcorn, and enjoy the show?

He is a god of oceans, not 'water'.
Also his relationship to Emperor Rel is problematic. I could see him feeling the Jaghut rituals fading, shrugging, and going back to keeping Tehol alive.

[worry]

He's not the Elder God of La Croix?

[Abyss]

Bubly.

[worry]

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo

[Tsundoku]

Don't you mean Buble?

And no, I don't know how to do that funny apostrophe above the e thing. Because English, dammit.

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[Abyss]

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[Avernite]

Late to the party, but eh

I loved how Rant's vision of Teblor society contrasted with Karsa's. At one point in the MBOTF Karsa remarks that the whole world should be villages (like the Teblor), so noone would die alone. In this book, Rant remarks that Teblor society, where crooked warleaders reign because, is lousy and at least in Silver Lake people didn't engage in Klingon Promotion.

SE philosophy, but now in straight-talking Teblor warrior heroes rather than effete Tiste ramblers.

[Abyss]

Just accidentally reread this thread and now i NEED book 2 dammit.

....ah well, maybe a selective reread is in order....

[sigpig]

Abyss, on 28 February 2023 - 02:58 PM, said:

Just accidentally reread this thread and now i NEED book 2 dammit.

....ah well, maybe a selective reread is in order....

@Abyss, thank you for recommending the "earbook" version - I actually subscribed to Audible due to this. You are indeed correct, she is a VERY good voice actor.

[QuickTidal]

I'm finally getting around to reading this...and um....4 chapters in and this is FAR too bleak for me. Karsa's rape causing trauma to a human woman that she passes onto their son, born of rape, she then rapes him....and then they talk about drakes raping ducks....WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING?

This is awful.


Spindle is great, but we've missed whatever happened to take him from comic relief in the MbotF, to the Fiddler insert. The marines are mostly fine, but there is far too much pointless banter going nowhere.


I'm going to put this down for now....either I'm too old to stomach how dark some of this is, or I'm not vibing with it....ugh.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 13 November 2023 - 01:04 PM