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Twilight Imperium 8 : Magi's Madness - Chat Thread

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 12:58 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 May 2021 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 May 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

Ugh, early Construction plays are so annoying :pout:


Well since someone has arranged for leadership to be stalled, I'm going to have to play it at some point, so may as well play it early!


Funny thing is, after Twelve's first turn I was going to tell Khell we probably dont need to bother trying to stall out Twelve anymore since he picked Warfare... but then you two both dropping strategic actions so early now I think it is worth a try after all.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 01:06 PM

The longer he waits the more secondaries he'll miss out on.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 01:11 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

The longer he waits the more secondaries he'll miss out on.


That's what I'm saying. With both Politics and Construction already played so early he (and me, and anyone else without a ton of strategy CTs) are already going to miss several secondaries no matter what... too late to fix it now. I wouldn't be surprised if you and Tapper both play your strategy cards right away, too, it's a good move and an easy stall after all.

So if it's already happened, might as well stay the course and keep stalling Leadership at this point. Then everyone gets a low-secondary round, which can be a net benefit.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 01:29 PM

View PostD, on 04 May 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

The longer he waits the more secondaries he'll miss out on.


That's what I'm saying. With both Politics and Construction already played so early he (and me, and anyone else without a ton of strategy CTs) are already going to miss several secondaries no matter what... too late to fix it now. I wouldn't be surprised if you and Tapper both play your strategy cards right away, too, it's a good move and an easy stall after all.

So if it's already happened, might as well stay the course and keep stalling Leadership at this point. Then everyone gets a low-secondary round, which can be a net benefit.


Oh man now I wish I hadn't played construction early :p
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 01:35 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 May 2021 - 01:29 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 May 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

The longer he waits the more secondaries he'll miss out on.


That's what I'm saying. With both Politics and Construction already played so early he (and me, and anyone else without a ton of strategy CTs) are already going to miss several secondaries no matter what... too late to fix it now. I wouldn't be surprised if you and Tapper both play your strategy cards right away, too, it's a good move and an easy stall after all.

So if it's already happened, might as well stay the course and keep stalling Leadership at this point. Then everyone gets a low-secondary round, which can be a net benefit.


Oh man now I wish I hadn't played construction early :p

Yep. The stall hurts. I can possibly survive until it's played, but what's the value of that if all SCs are already played? Urgh.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 01:44 PM

Well if Khell and Tapper didn't both decide to make friendly with Twelve this wouldn't be necessary. I wanted to work together to bring the Mahact mountain down (and take revenge for him stealing our CTs), but you two decided to roll over on him, so now I have to claw for every possible option to slow him down.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:07 PM

Am I missing something...? When/why did Morgoth give IH his alliance PN?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:12 PM

Also, what is this supposed L1Z1X PN you're holding? You had 1 L1Z1X PN last round, played Cybernetic Enhancements in the last status phase, so either you don't have one anymore or made a trade that you didn't post publicly.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:13 PM

Also, where is Twelve's 6th Mahact PN? He has been showing 5 for the last several status blocks but no one else is showing as having one.

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:16 PM

Twelve only has 5 Mahact don't get an alliance PN

Morgoth and I swapped commanders last round, forgot to update PN list

And L1Z1X is a mistake.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:19 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 May 2021 - 02:16 PM, said:

Twelve only has 5 Mahact don't get an alliance PN


Ah, good point.

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 May 2021 - 02:16 PM, said:

Morgoth and I swapped commanders last round, forgot to update PN list

And L1Z1X is a mistake.


Ok, then both you and Morgoth need to update it. It's been like a week since then and the PN counts have been wrong plus the alliances aren't in the play area this whole time. It's not fair to put the burden of catching and fixing that sort of stuff all on Blend for that long.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:30 PM

Khell have you given thought to turning off your PDS fire so I can place a destroyer in the asteroid field in exchange for 1 TG?
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:32 PM

View PostD, on 04 May 2021 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well if Khell and Tapper didn't both decide to make friendly with Twelve this wouldn't be necessary. I wanted to work together to bring the Mahact mountain down (and take revenge for him stealing our CTs), but you two decided to roll over on him, so now I have to claw for every possible option to slow him down.

That's one way to look at it - another is that you arranged the stall and then asked me to pick a fight with one CT to my name, more specifically, to block Twelve's space port. Where's my incentive to do this, and do this now?
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:34 PM

View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 May 2021 - 02:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 02:28 PM, said:

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View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 01:20 PM, said:

@Tatts - You're done with the original deal with IH now, yes? I'd like to buy your faction PN thing. Perhaps 1 TG, a free refresh, and upgrading your commodities?


Tatts agrees to the free refresh. Also, I’d like one please? :)


Any chance of that free refresh being part of a larger deal where I get to buy your alliance PN so I can build more anti-Twelve thingies?


Maaybe. Let me think on it when I get a chance and get back to you. I’d want refreshes for myself and Tatts, and commodity trade, and probs/deffo something else for it


My alliance or faction PN are available if either would appeal to you.



Not really interested in either of those. But you are awash in trade goods, a straight TG purchase of my alliance PN could work (plus the refreshes/trade above).
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:35 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 02:30 PM, said:

Khell have you given thought to turning off your PDS fire so I can place a destroyer in the asteroid field in exchange for 1 TG?


I'm considering doing it for immediately getting back your Trade PN after using it, but I haven't decided yet.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:42 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 04 May 2021 - 05:25 AM, said:

twelve, I will probably pick tech, so no deal then I suppose.

Figured that was what you wanted too so no worries.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:42 PM

View PostTapper, on 04 May 2021 - 02:32 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 May 2021 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well if Khell and Tapper didn't both decide to make friendly with Twelve this wouldn't be necessary. I wanted to work together to bring the Mahact mountain down (and take revenge for him stealing our CTs), but you two decided to roll over on him, so now I have to claw for every possible option to slow him down.

That's one way to look at it - another is that you arranged the stall and then asked me to pick a fight with one CT to my name, more specifically, to block Twelve's space port. Where's my incentive to do this, and do this now?


That was after you and Twelve already negotiated your peace. My suggestion to blockade him was a last-ditch hail mary ask, but I didn't expect it to be likely to happen since you were already negotiating your peace with him.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:43 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 04 May 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 May 2021 - 02:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 02:28 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 May 2021 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostD, on 03 May 2021 - 01:20 PM, said:

@Tatts - You're done with the original deal with IH now, yes? I'd like to buy your faction PN thing. Perhaps 1 TG, a free refresh, and upgrading your commodities?


Tatts agrees to the free refresh. Also, I’d like one please? :)


Any chance of that free refresh being part of a larger deal where I get to buy your alliance PN so I can build more anti-Twelve thingies?


Maaybe. Let me think on it when I get a chance and get back to you. I’d want refreshes for myself and Tatts, and commodity trade, and probs/deffo something else for it


My alliance or faction PN are available if either would appeal to you.



Not really interested in either of those. But you are awash in trade goods, a straight TG purchase of my alliance PN could work (plus the refreshes/trade above).


How much TG?

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:45 PM

If we consider the free refreshes to you and to Tatts worth 1 TG each (the previously used "price" of free refreshes in this game), that's an equivalent price of 2 TG. How about 4 more on top of that?

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 02:45 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 01:06 PM, said:

The longer he waits the more secondaries he'll miss out on.

Tatts if do a Tactical action before you play tech I'll play my agent on you. Does this intrest you?
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