[D'rek]

twelve, on 03 May 2021 - 04:08 PM, said:

D, on 03 May 2021 - 03:52 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 May 2021 - 03:51 PM, said:

D, on 03 May 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

Tapper, on 03 May 2021 - 03:22 PM, said:

@D'rek: I'd like a refresh as well, what would you like in return?

I would like the use of your agent and War Funding in my impending battle with Twelve.

The only battle that's happening is if you come at me. I'm fine with where the boarders are at currently. And if Leadership gets popped at a reasonable time I'd even be willing to use my agent on you for a trade good, free refresh and a wash of commodities.

Give me back my CT and we can leave the borders where they are.

Please clarify? Are you agreeing to my trade proposal?

Once you give me back the CT you took from me, the current borders can be established as mutually tolerable. Until that happens, there can be no talk of economic trade between us.

Besides, 4 C/TG for your agent on top of a free wash is a laughably high price for it.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 03 May 2021 - 03:57 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 May 2021 - 03:06 PM, said:

The deal with IH is he gets to buy my racial for 1 TG. If everyone offers the same it goes to IH. HOWEVER, if anyone offers me more then I'll definitely consider it.

Khell has my trade PN so I'd not be getting anything out of that offer above what IH is giving me so I'd consider 2TG and a fresh refresh for sure.

Otherwise it goes to IH.

That wasn't our deal. Our deal was whilst you hold hope's end you sell me your racial for 1TG.

There wasn't anything about you selling it to anyone else for more if they offered.

I mean, it’s his racial PN.

[twelve]

I feel there is a huge disconnect here. I have no idea what you mean by giving back a CT. Wait! Are you talking about the one in my fleet pool? I cant just give them back and even if I could I'm not just going to give it back. What would you offer for it? Remember you have been the aggressor in our relationship. I've just been trying to defend myself against you. I dont want unnecessary combat but you arent giving me much choice.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 03 May 2021 - 04:27 PM, said:

I feel there is a huge disconnect here. I have no idea what you mean by giving back a CT. Wait! Are you talking about the one in my fleet pool? I cant just give them back and even if I could I'm not just going to give it back. What would you offer for it? Remember you have been the aggressor in our relationship. I've just been trying to defend myself against you. I dont want unnecessary combat but you arent giving me much choice.

D'reks marked you as her stalking horse twelve, I don't think you are going to get any deals out of her.

[Khellendros]

Anyone after a cultural relic fragment?

[Tattersail_]

Khell I want to move to Mallice, should I be concerned by your fleet on Lodor?

I was going to pop Technology first turn but realise this could open up an attack on 0.0.0 by you researching and having plus 2 movement.

I think popping a ship in the asteroid belt can prevent that but then that fleet will be moving somewhere.

Hence my question.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 03 May 2021 - 04:29 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 May 2021 - 04:27 PM, said:

I feel there is a huge disconnect here. I have no idea what you mean by giving back a CT. Wait! Are you talking about the one in my fleet pool? I cant just give them back and even if I could I'm not just going to give it back. What would you offer for it? Remember you have been the aggressor in our relationship. I've just been trying to defend myself against you. I dont want unnecessary combat but you arent giving me much choice.

D'reks marked you as her stalking horse twelve, I don't think you are going to get any deals out of her.

Yeah I'm not feeling much love coming from her either. That's why I was also asking for a wash on my previous deal so I know she wouldn't actively try and stonewall me trying to wash the commodities. If I'd know she wouldnt or if someone else would be willing to wash my commodities I'd drop that part of the offer. Though its doubtful I'll even be able utilize trade as she is working with Khell to stall Leadership. I have to tech this round and Construction is a bit if a must as well as I doubt I'll get to the 5 tgs for the point.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 03 May 2021 - 04:30 PM, said:

Anyone after a cultural relic fragment?

At some point maybe but probably not this round.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 03 May 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Khell I want to move to Mallice, should I be concerned by your fleet on Lodor?

I was going to pop Technology first turn but realise this could open up an attack on 0.0.0 by you researching and having plus 2 movement.

I think popping a ship in the asteroid belt can prevent that but then that fleet will be moving somewhere.

Hence my question.

If I was going to attack you I wouldn’t let you know first would I?

So should you be afraid? Yes, always. Do I intend to do you harm? Not in my concrete plans, but perhaps I’m lying.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 03 May 2021 - 04:30 PM, said:

Anyone after a cultural relic fragment?

Not particularly, but it's worth a free refresh if you want to go that way (even if I can't do anything with it, better it go to me than Twelve)

[Morgoth]

D'rek, I am not giving you use of my agent, but I can accept free refresh for use of my PN. That seems a fair deal I think.

[Morgoth]

twelve, I will probably pick tech, so no deal then I suppose.

[D'rek]

Morgoth, on 04 May 2021 - 05:25 AM, said:

D'rek, I am not giving you use of my agent, but I can accept free refresh for use of my PN. That seems a fair deal I think.

+1 to combat rolls in a single ground combat is not worth an entire free refresh.

[D'rek]

Ugh, early Construction plays are so annoying :pout:

[Morgoth]

I'd say it's worth is relative to the situation it is to be used, but always at least a TG, which is what we have priced a refresh at previously.

[D'rek]

Morgoth, on 04 May 2021 - 12:09 PM, said:

I'd say it's worth is relative to the situation it is to be used, but always at least a TG, which is what we have priced a refresh at previously.

Well there isn't much of a situation for it so in "relative" terms I guess it isn't worth anything this round. And a free refresh would cost you a CT / would give you 3 commodities, so that sounds more like you're pricing it at 3 TG, not 1. Whatevs, anyway I'm not interested in that deal, no biggie.

[Tattersail_]

Khell if I move a destroyer into the asteroid field would you hold off on the PDS fire?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 04 May 2021 - 12:38 PM, said:

Khell if I move a destroyer into the asteroid field would you hold off on the PDS fire?

Not solely out of the generosity of my heart, no.

[Tattersail_]

I'll trade you a tg not to fire?

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 04 May 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

Ugh, early Construction plays are so annoying :pout:

Well since someone has arranged for leadership to be stalled, I'm going to have to play it at some point, so may as well play it early!