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#161 User is offline   Blend 

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Posted 03 September 2020 - 08:40 PM

I have very clearly stated that I'm not personally doing anything to stop you. *shrugs*
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:04 PM

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

You need to go first?


I go first regardless, I'm the Naalu.


That's what your racial allows though isn't it? Gift of Prescience. Even if I took Imperial I'd go before leadership with that.

You responded that itd cripple your game so that's why I asked why you needed to go first.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:08 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

You need to go first?


I go first regardless, I'm the Naalu.


That's what your racial allows though isn't it? Gift of Prescience. Even if I took Imperial I'd go before leadership with that.

You responded that itd cripple your game so that's why I asked why you needed to go first.


It's not the going first that I'm worried about, it's not being able to choose a different strategy.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:40 PM, said:

I have very clearly stated that I'm not personally doing anything to stop you. *shrugs*

I'm just referring to the general chatter. Usually this type of talk is reserved for end game. I'm not expecting to win. Just trying out a specific strategy for the Winnu to see how it plays out.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tatts and Blend are playing two of the more top tier races and Morgoth and IH are the only ones who have won a forum game but go ahead and have the board team up on me. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense to me.


You will be forcing everyone to take Imperial before you so that you don't score the VP from having it. Your race is specifically designed to take MR and hold it. You'll achieve that round 1. If everyone ignores that then you'll win. If we let you build on MR then no one will kick you off it.

All Blend and I are discussing is not letting you have Imperial. That's a smart choice. You'll have to earn your VPs like the rest of us. You've already got the spend 8 resources one down with having 6 from MR.

Why the woe is me words?
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:10 PM

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

You need to go first?


I go first regardless, I'm the Naalu.


That's what your racial allows though isn't it? Gift of Prescience. Even if I took Imperial I'd go before leadership with that.

You responded that itd cripple your game so that's why I asked why you needed to go first.


It's not the going first that I'm worried about, it's not being able to choose a different strategy.


So that's why I said I'd take Imperial if you give me your racial to use next round.

Is that something you'd do?
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:12 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tatts and Blend are playing two of the more top tier races and Morgoth and IH are the only ones who have won a forum game but go ahead and have the board team up on me. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense to me.


You will be forcing everyone to take Imperial before you so that you don't score the VP from having it. Your race is specifically designed to take MR and hold it. You'll achieve that round 1. If everyone ignores that then you'll win. If we let you build on MR then no one will kick you off it.

All Blend and I are discussing is not letting you have Imperial. That's a smart choice. You'll have to earn your VPs like the rest of us. You've already got the spend 8 resources one down with having 6 from MR.

Why the woe is me words?


MR won't give him 6 resources, it gives him 6 influence.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:13 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

You need to go first?


I go first regardless, I'm the Naalu.


That's what your racial allows though isn't it? Gift of Prescience. Even if I took Imperial I'd go before leadership with that.

You responded that itd cripple your game so that's why I asked why you needed to go first.


It's not the going first that I'm worried about, it's not being able to choose a different strategy.


So that's why I said I'd take Imperial if you give me your racial to use next round.

Is that something you'd do?


I think it'd be better to just let Morgoth take MR away from Twelve next round. It's early game, let him have it for a round!
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:14 PM

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 08:40 PM, said:

I have very clearly stated that I'm not personally doing anything to stop you. *shrugs*

I'm just referring to the general chatter. Usually this type of talk is reserved for end game. I'm not expecting to win. Just trying out a specific strategy for the Winnu to see how it plays out.


FWIW I'm impressed with your strategy. I thought mine was good but you trumped it for sure.

Technology was the perfect strategy card for you and your race in that position. Very well executed. I only saw what you were going to do because I was worried you'd still the strategy card from me so checked your racial tech ability.

Great change in the Omega deck for you.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:15 PM

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 09:12 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tatts and Blend are playing two of the more top tier races and Morgoth and IH are the only ones who have won a forum game but go ahead and have the board team up on me. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense to me.


You will be forcing everyone to take Imperial before you so that you don't score the VP from having it. Your race is specifically designed to take MR and hold it. You'll achieve that round 1. If everyone ignores that then you'll win. If we let you build on MR then no one will kick you off it.

All Blend and I are discussing is not letting you have Imperial. That's a smart choice. You'll have to earn your VPs like the rest of us. You've already got the spend 8 resources one down with having 6 from MR.

Why the woe is me words?


MR won't give him 6 resources, it gives him 6 influence.


Look again at his racial techs. He can turn those 6 inf into 6 resources by researching his second racial.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:19 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tatts and Blend are playing two of the more top tier races and Morgoth and IH are the only ones who have won a forum game but go ahead and have the board team up on me. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense to me.


You will be forcing everyone to take Imperial before you so that you don't score the VP from having it. Your race is specifically designed to take MR and hold it. You'll achieve that round 1. If everyone ignores that then you'll win. If we let you build on MR then no one will kick you off it.

All Blend and I are discussing is not letting you have Imperial. That's a smart choice. You'll have to earn your VPs like the rest of us. You've already got the spend 8 resources one down with having 6 from MR.

Why the woe is me words?

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. Its round 1 for crying out load. The chances of me keeping Rex and getting more than 1 VP out of Imperial all game will be a miracle. And if I do get more than 1 VP out of Imperial I'm just trading a PO point for an Imperial point so the best I'm going to do will be keeping pace with the pact.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:23 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 September 2020 - 09:12 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 September 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tatts and Blend are playing two of the more top tier races and Morgoth and IH are the only ones who have won a forum game but go ahead and have the board team up on me. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense to me.


You will be forcing everyone to take Imperial before you so that you don't score the VP from having it. Your race is specifically designed to take MR and hold it. You'll achieve that round 1. If everyone ignores that then you'll win. If we let you build on MR then no one will kick you off it.

All Blend and I are discussing is not letting you have Imperial. That's a smart choice. You'll have to earn your VPs like the rest of us. You've already got the spend 8 resources one down with having 6 from MR.

Why the woe is me words?


MR won't give him 6 resources, it gives him 6 influence.


Look again at his racial techs. He can turn those 6 inf into 6 resources by researching his second racial.

And it has to be used during a time I would produce so its completely worthless in the 8 resources objective. So I'm at least 1 double tech with a yellow skip away from getting that tech to even do that. You are clearly overestimating my strength.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:29 PM

And the neverending quest for a good winnu strategy continues!
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:30 PM

If anything I underestimate your strength. I didn't think MR round 1 was possible. Well done
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:36 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 September 2020 - 09:30 PM, said:

If anything I underestimate your strength. I didn't think MR round 1 was possible. Well done

Without Diplomacy in play the Winnu are probably the only race that has a realistic chance at pulling it off and as you can see I'm sacrificing everything to pull it off. And I had to have a lot of things go right to pull it off.
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Posted 03 September 2020 - 09:50 PM

Thoughts for sure you were going to do gravity drive there Tatts. Thought the mobility would trump the versatility of the fighters
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Posted 04 September 2020 - 05:21 AM

No point now. That WAS the plan.
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Posted 04 September 2020 - 05:27 AM

I don't think it's unreasonable of me to try and take MR round two when I have the influence and the access. It was an option the moment I got to pick Warfare. When that is said, I'm not married to the idea, and am happy to find a solution that suits us both, twelve.
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Posted 04 September 2020 - 06:25 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 04 September 2020 - 05:27 AM, said:

I don't think it's unreasonable of me to try and take MR round two when I have the influence and the access. It was an option the moment I got to pick Warfare. When that is said, I'm not married to the idea, and am happy to find a solution that suits us both, twelve.

A bit hard to do when I'm already there. Or was this statement made prior to you realizing that I had plans to claim Rex this round? Or are you planning on fighting me for Rex? Can you clarify what you want exactly?
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Posted 04 September 2020 - 06:28 AM

hah, no I did not in fact realise you'd get there this round. Forgot about Gravity drive
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