[twelve]

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

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83.2 To resolve a transaction, a player gives any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note to a neighbor in exchange for any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note.

I was wrong! Looks like we can do it as you suggested - so yes, I'd be willing to trade 3 commodities and 2 TGs in exchange for 3 commodities and your racial!

Awesome. On my turn I'll initiate the trade.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 02 September 2020 - 07:02 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 04:22 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 September 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

I could do that. I have my racial PN for trade as well which would give you a free CT at strategy phase if you promise to use it straight away.

I would be interested in the use of lazar for the yellow skip if a deal can be worked out.

Can you take Lazar round 1 with minimum force. It's a pain loaning planets because it takes so much time to do. I'm not averse to you using it. If not round one then we'll have to come up with some sort of deal.

What do you have in mind?

Unfortunately I cannot, I was going to offer my racial PN which gives a free CT

Okay. When's the earliest you can get there?

[Blend]

twelve, on 02 September 2020 - 08:29 PM, said:

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

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83.2 To resolve a transaction, a player gives any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note to a neighbor in exchange for any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note.

I was wrong! Looks like we can do it as you suggested - so yes, I'd be willing to trade 3 commodities and 2 TGs in exchange for 3 commodities and your racial!

Awesome. On my turn I'll initiate the trade.

I may have to reneg on this - I'm just realizing that your PN only prevents the ST cost, not the TG/Resources cost... Not sure I can actually afford the 2TGs - I thought I was going to be saving money, but overall, not really.

[Blend]

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:49 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 September 2020 - 08:29 PM, said:

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

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83.2 To resolve a transaction, a player gives any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note to a neighbor in exchange for any number of trade goods and commodities and up to one promissory note.

I was wrong! Looks like we can do it as you suggested - so yes, I'd be willing to trade 3 commodities and 2 TGs in exchange for 3 commodities and your racial!

Awesome. On my turn I'll initiate the trade.

I may have to reneg on this - I'm just realizing that your PN only prevents the ST cost, not the TG/Resources cost... Not sure I can actually afford the 2TGs - I thought I was going to be saving money, but overall, not really.

Yeah unfortunately the TGs are more useful to me this round than the free ST. By buying your racial, all I'd really be saving is 1TG that I would have to use with one of my planets on the Leadership secondary to get an extra ST, so in the end I'll be having to spend 1TG more than I would have to save that ST, so sorry, I am not in fact interested in your racial.

I still agree to a 3:3 though!

[D'rek]

IH read your PMS!

[Blend]

And Tatts - I will only be able to flip your commodities if Technology hasn't been played before we are neighbours.

[Tattersail_]

IH went Zohbat Mellon Drek

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:54 PM, said:

And Tatts - I will only be able to flip your commodities if Technology hasn't been played before we are neighbours.

No worries. I'm thinking about this now, where are you planning on going next?

[Tattersail_]

What if I moved a destroyer to connect to your HS, would you trade 4 of my commodities plus my racial for 5 tgs?

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 09:28 PM, said:

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 08:54 PM, said:

And Tatts - I will only be able to flip your commodities if Technology hasn't been played before we are neighbours.

No worries. I'm thinking about this now, where are you planning on going next?

Assuming Morgoth plays Warfare this round, Centauri/Gral next round for me.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 08:45 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 September 2020 - 07:02 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 04:22 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 September 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

I could do that. I have my racial PN for trade as well which would give you a free CT at strategy phase if you promise to use it straight away.

I would be interested in the use of lazar for the yellow skip if a deal can be worked out.

Can you take Lazar round 1 with minimum force. It's a pain loaning planets because it takes so much time to do. I'm not averse to you using it. If not round one then we'll have to come up with some sort of deal.

What do you have in mind?

Unfortunately I cannot, I was going to offer my racial PN which gives a free CT

Okay. When's the earliest you can get there?

Next round

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 09:40 PM, said:

What if I moved a destroyer to connect to your HS, would you trade 4 of my commodities plus my racial for 5 tgs?

Can you move it to the blank hex? Or would you care about potentially losing it if I move to Centauri/Gral next turn?

[Tattersail_]

I'm trying to come up with a deal with you that let's you take that system round 2 which doesn't leave me anxious you have a full system next to my HW.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 09:41 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 09:40 PM, said:

What if I moved a destroyer to connect to your HS, would you trade 4 of my commodities plus my racial for 5 tgs?

Can you move it to the blank hex? Or would you care about potentially losing it if I move to Centauri/Gral next turn?

Actually I wouldn't mind losing it to get the deal done on this turn. If you're amenable I'll go ahead and post the move and transaction?

Remember no using it until I run out of strategy tokens. It won't be long.

Thoughts?

[Tattersail_]

IH okay your racial for you to invade Sakalug to use the yellow tech sounds okay but what's to say you don't attack my home system or move out when you have exhausted it? What happens to the other planet in the system?

[Tattersail_]

Ceasefire exchange? We can exchange that back when you move out and in turn swap SFTT once done?

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 09:46 PM, said:

Blend, on 02 September 2020 - 09:41 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 09:40 PM, said:

What if I moved a destroyer to connect to your HS, would you trade 4 of my commodities plus my racial for 5 tgs?

Can you move it to the blank hex? Or would you care about potentially losing it if I move to Centauri/Gral next turn?

Actually I wouldn't mind losing it to get the deal done on this turn. If you're amenable I'll go ahead and post the move and transaction?

Remember no using it until I run out of strategy tokens. It won't be long.

Thoughts?

Yes, I agree to trade 3 commodities and 2TGs for your 4 commodities and your racial with the understanding that I wont use your racial until you are out of STs and I will be moving to Centauri/Gral next turn (or potentially later if Morgoth doesn't play Warfare)

[twelve]

Okay so what does this mean for our trade Blend? Are you going to wash my trade goods now at least? Woukd you be interested in my racial for 1 tg?

[Blend]

twelve, on 02 September 2020 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so what does this mean for our trade Blend? Are you going to wash my trade goods now at least? Woukd you be interested in my racial for 1 tg?

I will trade you 3 TGs for 3 of your commodities, but I am unfortunately not interested in your racial this round.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 02 September 2020 - 10:04 PM, said:

IH okay your racial for you to invade Sakalug to use the yellow tech sounds okay but what's to say you don't attack my home system or move out when you have exhausted it? What happens to the other planet in the system?

Basically I'm offering you a deal where you let me take the yellow planet and then I move out because I have agreed to do so, and I give you my racial as a payment. Because I always keep my agreements in this game, and if I don't keep the deal you could hang on to my racial for the rest of the game and deny me the ability to trade it for resources .

Versus a situation where I don't give you anything and take the planets anyway, and most likely do end up trying to take your homeworld, or at least get tied up in a prolonged conflict.

I'm not really inclined to cede more to you than I already have your race has an economic and scoring advantage over mine (you gain 5 additional resources from trade and with a free CT, and you are better positioned to get the good techs for vps) , my advantage is that my ships are better than yours and I'm very good at invading planets.

If you leave lazar sakulag empty (you should get gravity drive which will let you take plenty of better systems) I will move in with minimum force, take both planets and leave on the following turn after using the yellow skip and agree not to attack your homeworld that turn since you are worried about it. I'll give you my racial for the small opportunity cost (as you most likely will have taken two better planets).

Sftt I'd be willing to swap once we've done this exchange.