[Sheltatha Lore]

Okral Lom, on 13 May 2020 - 03:58 AM, said:

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

Aranatha is 0 to 60 on this case (blocks of text, tl/dr style). I think the theory of a dumb as shit symp is worth a peek, but right now, Okral caught my eye the most. I never like it when players break the 4th wall and discount their own suspicious behavior in advance in an attempt to forestall suspicion. It is a self awareness that provides an anchor to the claim that they were just being helpful, sorry to seem scummy, nothing to see here. A few other players did this "durr sorry I am scummy" today, but right now, Okral stood out in the context of everything becoming srs biz.

Vote Okral

Yeeeah, I can see it in retrospect. I think it was a result of nervousness to post anything tangible that early (which pretty much always backfires, as evidenced by the current state of things) and me trying to segue into the fact that it's probably the quiet people we should be looking at (although I think Venesara and Okaros might just be MIA?). Apparently I didn't actually need to rush a post though, since it pretty much immediately got crazy in here.

I'm also not sure what to think of Aranatha. It's not the actual content that's odd so much as the phrasing/aggression. Trolling for kicks? Trying to poke poke poke? Or trying to act so aggressive no one would suspect him of actually being legitimately scum?

Still not ready to vote on anyone. Most cases so far are pretty weak, but do make a little sense. I'll be pretty busy tomorrow, but I'll try to at least read up and vote before the day rolls over.

Am I reading this right?
Did you just admit to being nervous to post something tangible and standing out early? Nervous to be the one to get the game going?
Implying you would rather lay low....hmmm

I absolutely think getting the game started as soon as possible and avoiding dragonsSEX talk is a good thing to find scum, people need to be put on the spot.

almost enough to change my vote.
But again. Its' way too obvious...sigh.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

Size of the game would indicate a certainly that some form of sumo exists.

And... assuming there is one is better than assuming there isn't.

[Sheltatha Lore]

there is some very irritating autocorrects happening with me on this forum. hopefully people can decipher it

e.g Sumo = Symp.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 13 May 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2020 - 08:26 AM, said:

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

That's a strange summary of the events, why these two in particular?

There has been quite a discussion indeed recently between Aranatha, Tennes, Skintick and Shelthata, with small contributions from others. Plus, I found only 1 post from Tennes responding explicitly to something Aranatha said.

This.

Tennes only had one vote on him till just now. Aranathas argument on Tennes was flat out instinctual and few actually bought in.
If anything all Ruse does in this post is divert the vote to Tennes from what looked like an Okral lynch. Creating a split where before there was none.

This reads like derailment from Ruse who was otherwise none existent.


Vote Okral Lom

This is the informative vote.

I'm also wondering why he feels the need to cast doubts on the very fact that there are symps?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tennes, on 13 May 2020 - 08:22 AM, said:

As a side-note: I don't think Aranatha is scum. I'm sure as hell annoyed at their blinkers but this just feels like a classic bad town play.

i.e. village idiot

[Merrid]

As Day 1 suspicions go, I like Tennes' on Skintick possibly signalling Prazec, Shelly and/or Okral. Love the use of that 3/4 in the case - sometimes it is just that obvious However, I wouldn't go so far as to say all three are being signalled at. For example, mentioning Prazec and Shelly in the same sentence if they were both killers would be going too far into the blatant.

[Hanas]

I'm had a quick skim (yeah only a quick one) and it is nice to see some interaction there. I'll consider it this evening. Until then we have 4 alts who have only posted once. Get here people. Fanderay, Gamelon, Kilava, Osseric. All checked in but nothing since.

Vote Osseric

For having a single post and breaching lockdown

[Hanas]

Merrid, on 13 May 2020 - 09:57 AM, said:

As Day 1 suspicions go, I like Tennes' on Skintick possibly signalling Prazec, Shelly and/or Okral. Love the use of that 3/4 in the case - sometimes it is just that obvious However, I wouldn't go so far as to say all three are being signalled at. For example, mentioning Prazec and Shelly in the same sentence if they were both killers would be going too far into the blatant.

I've been more blatant than that before - just saying

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 09:51 AM, said:

Tennes, on 13 May 2020 - 08:22 AM, said:

As a side-note: I don't think Aranatha is scum. I'm sure as hell annoyed at their blinkers but this just feels like a classic bad town play.

i.e. village idiot

I think you're being a bit too sure about Anaratha this early on

[Sheltatha Lore]

Skintick, on 13 May 2020 - 01:38 AM, said:

That being, said, if Ara's my symp, yet he made a case on Tennes after Tennes already moed on from me, that's.... not smart?

Good point actually.

remove vote.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Hanas, on 13 May 2020 - 10:00 AM, said:

Merrid, on 13 May 2020 - 09:57 AM, said:

As Day 1 suspicions go, I like Tennes' on Skintick possibly signalling Prazec, Shelly and/or Okral. Love the use of that 3/4 in the case - sometimes it is just that obvious However, I wouldn't go so far as to say all three are being signalled at. For example, mentioning Prazec and Shelly in the same sentence if they were both killers would be going too far into the blatant.

I've been more blatant than that before - just saying

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 09:51 AM, said:

Tennes, on 13 May 2020 - 08:22 AM, said:

As a side-note: I don't think Aranatha is scum. I'm sure as hell annoyed at their blinkers but this just feels like a classic bad town play.

i.e. village idiot

I think you're being a bit too sure about Anaratha this early on

What exactly am I sure of?

Ive said it many times that he is either symping/derailing OR a towny playing very badly (village idiot)

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1. About 10 hours remaining.

21 people left alive.

2 votes Tennes; Aranatha, Ruse
4 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse, Gait
1 vote Osseric; Hanas

[Tennes]

Okay, had a bit of time to catch up.

I see there is heat on Okral and tbh I didn't read too much into the post that started it (via Rikkter's vote) but then Okral wrote this and it's just bizarre:

Okral Lom, on 13 May 2020 - 03:58 AM, said:

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

Aranatha is 0 to 60 on this case (blocks of text, tl/dr style). I think the theory of a dumb as shit symp is worth a peek, but right now, Okral caught my eye the most. I never like it when players break the 4th wall and discount their own suspicious behavior in advance in an attempt to forestall suspicion. It is a self awareness that provides an anchor to the claim that they were just being helpful, sorry to seem scummy, nothing to see here. A few other players did this "durr sorry I am scummy" today, but right now, Okral stood out in the context of everything becoming srs biz.

Vote Okral

Yeeeah, I can see it in retrospect. I think it was a result of nervousness to post anything tangible that early (which pretty much always backfires, as evidenced by the current state of things) and me trying to segue into the fact that it's probably the quiet people we should be looking at (although I think Venesara and Okaros might just be MIA?). Apparently I didn't actually need to rush a post though, since it pretty much immediately got crazy in here.

I'm also not sure what to think of Aranatha. It's not the actual content that's odd so much as the phrasing/aggression. Trolling for kicks? Trying to poke poke poke? Or trying to act so aggressive no one would suspect him of actually being legitimately scum?

Still not ready to vote on anyone. Most cases so far are pretty weak, but do make a little sense. I'll be pretty busy tomorrow, but I'll try to at least read up and vote before the day rolls over.

Why would you be nervous to post something tangible? Like... that's literally the point of Town's game. Put tangible info on thread so players can build cases. The only people who don't want that are Scum.

Then there's some wishy-washy, non-committal stuff about Aranatha and then even wishier-washier shrugging off the entire discussion so far. Okral's game is basically 'I guess maybe I don't know not really kinda? btw I'm busy tomorrow'. So yeah, I'm on board with the case on them. Gonna put a vote there for now but there's a couple of other that are on my radar. In particular:


* Prazec, for the super obtuse question about symping. Merrid and Barghast pointed it out earlier. It looks like a lame-ass deflection.


* Ruse, for claiming claiming that the 'spat' between me and Aranatha is somewhow gonna overshadow D2 and it's the best call to lynch one of us. There's been other suspects and discussion on thread and I don't get how you overlook that unless you do it on purpose.


* Sheltatha, because it seems like they've been winding up Aranatha. I agree with Shel that Aranatha is most likely just a bad townie but I feel like they've been exploiting that and egging Ara on to go on their tirades. Perhaps to obscure other discussion?

So I'd be content with any of that three as well but for now:

Vote Okral Nom.

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This post has been edited by Tennes: 13 May 2020 - 11:20 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1. About 9 hours remaining.

21 people left alive. 11 votes to lynch.

2 votes Tennes; Aranatha, Ruse
5 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse, Gait, Tennes
1 vote Osseric; Hanas

[Venesara]

Apologies, I didn't see that the game had started. Looks like people are getting serious early on.

Checking in

[Skintick]

Checking in, reading up.

[Venesara]

Barghast, on 11 May 2020 - 05:32 PM, said:

In before the crowd

Could this be a signal for the scum? It just caught my eye on the way in

[Venesara]

Path-Shaper, on 11 May 2020 - 04:12 PM, said:

The four killers arrived back at their digs. Too wired to sleep. Too pumped up to think about shutting their eyes they planned their next night.

Karen and Jayne poured over what they knew. They hated seeing people suffer. They'll solve this case come hell or high water.

These words make me think off-thread comms are in effect between scum

[Prazec Goul]

Ok back and catching up.

[Gait]

Venesara, on 13 May 2020 - 12:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 May 2020 - 04:12 PM, said:

The four killers arrived back at their digs. Too wired to sleep. Too pumped up to think about shutting their eyes they planned their next night.

Karen and Jayne poured over what they knew. They hated seeing people suffer. They'll solve this case come hell or high water.

These words make me think off-thread comms are in effect between scum

Old school mafia used to say "only scum speculate about scum." especially scum mechanics. Not because there's no merit in it but because it cant go anywhere conclusive, fills space and distances discussion on actual thread activity.

That said it's good to see people in here reading up.

with 11 votes needed to lynch the more activity the better.

[Fanderay]

Okral's last two posts are both pretty weird. I'll vote for him for now, but I'd like to see more thoughts from him. Sheltatha Lore and Aranatha had a bit of a spat, and I'll take a closer look at that later.

Vote Okral Lom