[Sheltatha Lore]

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 01:28 AM, said:

LOL I'm the symp now? That's hilarious. I actually think Tennes might be Skintick's symp, just might. Or Tennes is trying to take away the heat from some other vote by randomly choosing someone to target, then safely removing the vote.
I'm considering Skintick also - especially after the loud noises Tennes has made. Other than that Sheltatha Lore is behaving suspicious aswell, since he so easily is dismissing what I'm saying by strawmanning and then denying it.

I would have thought that you guys would have all figured out what "strawmannirg" is by now... clearly that's not the case.

Anyway im off to bed, this clown is clearly losing the plot.

my vote stands.

[Skintick]

Time to go make tea, and then download Halo 2.

I'll check up later before bed, but prolly won't be on until morning.

[Rikkter]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:54 AM, said:

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

Aranatha is 0 to 60 on this case (blocks of text, tl/dr style). I think the theory of a dumb as shit symp is worth a peek, but right now, Okral caught my eye the most. I never like it when players break the 4th wall and discount their own suspicious behavior in advance in an attempt to forestall suspicion. It is a self awareness that provides an anchor to the claim that they were just being helpful, sorry to seem scummy, nothing to see here. A few other players did this "durr sorry I am scummy" today, but right now, Okral stood out in the context of everything becoming srs biz.

Vote Okral

quote the post or people are gonna ignore/miss it...this motherfucker is gonna be a bitch to follow even if people quote the posts they referring to never mind if they don't.

Sure. Better?

[Aranatha]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 01:40 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 01:28 AM, said:

LOL I'm the symp now? That's hilarious. I actually think Tennes might be Skintick's symp, just might. Or Tennes is trying to take away the heat from some other vote by randomly choosing someone to target, then safely removing the vote.
I'm considering Skintick also - especially after the loud noises Tennes has made. Other than that Sheltatha Lore is behaving suspicious aswell, since he so easily is dismissing what I'm saying by strawmanning and then denying it.

I would have thought that you guys would have all figured out what "strawmannirg" is by now... clearly that's not the case.

Anyway im off to bed, this clown is clearly losing the plot.

my vote stands.

Shall we take a look at what happened shall we? First you questioned my poke at Skintick from the start, Yes I'm going at him hard, because that's what poking is, genius. And oh boy did I get a hit. No wonder you won't vote for me.

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:43 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 12:28 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:17 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 12 May 2020 - 11:57 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 12 May 2020 - 11:46 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 12 May 2020 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honestly Tennes, if you're not scum, then my vibe scanner is so off, I might aswell go and live in a shoe box and never play mafia again. Although I'm not tiny enough for a shoe box. Hmm. As soon as anyone start making up ridiculous claims after barely one day, over analyzing word choices claiming symp, I get major scum vibes. Actually my radar is going off like crazy right now. Beep Beep BEEP.First you vote Skintick for absolutely no reason, then take the vote away for even less. Trying to seem like town so much, you might aswell have a giant 'scum' sign above your head. Just saying. I guess you could be poking for the sake of poking, and as such randomness can work sometimes, but I'm not really convinced that's your motive. I can SMELL you. Huh. ALSO can we PLEASE have some normal vote counting - the current vote counting is confusing as fuck. Also I don't want to have to keep counting how many votes are necessary - would Path-fucker please give an update with that. Pfff. Back to Tennes the scum scummery scum. Did you really hover over Skintick like a giant hovercrafting hovercraft sent to hover, and didn't think nobody would notice? Care to explain yourself hover-over-er?

hmmm...this is interesting.I don't think what Tennes has said/done really warrants this level of backlash. I can understand a mild amount of scrutiny (as I have myself indicated)... But you seem to really be going at him quite hard. So the question for me os...Are you a symp jumping to someone he has scrutinised's rescue by deflecting onto him?...or simply the village idiot jumping the gun with his "vibe scanner"?Either way...food for thought.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but I honestly don't think so. Just put yourself in the shoes of a scum playing. It's possible he would act the way Tennes has - the problem with scum posting is that you either get this feeling they don't really care about who gets the vote, unless you accidentally hit a scum friend of theirs - either way it's hard to tell which is which, especially this early in the game. I'm just watching the way people post and trying to read between the lines, just as you. There's just something about how Tennes writes his post that comes off scummy to me. As scum it's easy to get caught up in the 'playing it normal', especially if you're excited to play but still don't want to stand out. You can fall in a trap of doing just that, because what you're posting isn't authentic. Tennes posts doesn't seem authentic to me. If you have a better idea who could be scum this early in the game, I'm all ears.

The thing that makes me raise my eyebrows is your level of certainty. Which is odd to me.you cannot be so sure at this point, so your accusations seem a bit off. your temerity of his convictions is noteworthy. My thinking is either you are throwing accusations purposely to deflect something Tennes might have gotten right (be it accidentally or luckily). Or.. you are maybe a bit of an over eager village idiot. It's worth looking at.

I can't know for sure that I'm right, as I said before and you purposefully ignored above. But I think my reasoning is pretty solid actually. Why would you be against looking at Tennes? And as I said, if someone has something better, be my guest and point to it. Tennes can also do as I asked and try to explain why he jumped on Skintick for no reason. Instead he pointed back to his own posts, which is pointless. For the record, I have no reason to deflect anything - Tennes just seems scummy to me, that's it.

my entire point is based on the very fact that you "can't know for sure you're right" so I dunno how you can think I ignored it.?And I'm not against voting Tennes where did I day that?... you are just strawmannirg that idea (yes motherfucker STRAW-MANNING, I said it, cause its true) My focus was simply at how your unfounded certainly was so much of a sore thumb and seemed a bit fake as fuck. deflection attempt? or idiocy? time will tell.

I clearly imply in my reply to you that I can't know for sure that I'm right - but I know about as much as anyone else voting at this stage, so how am I so apparently a 'symp'? After I explain my thinking, you still say you don't like how 'certain' I am. And even though I've clearly explained my thinking how I arrived at my 'accusations', you still come to the conclusions it must be 'deflecting'. How exactly? Noone knows.
And I CLEARLY only ASKED why you WOULD not want us to look at Tennes, never did I claim you actually HAD anything against it - but thanks for this perfect level of strawmanning, genius.

Not only have you called me an idiot every single post you've replied to me, you DEFINITELY have an issue with me poking at Tennes.

I'll give you this though, I could have been clearer about not being able to know FOR SURE about Tennes - but you're just being petty at this point - I'm sure you're not anymore sure about your votes than I am. I said several times I clearly can't know for sure. However, you obviously don't want me poking at your buddy Tennes anymore. So thanks for the clarification.

[Okral Lom]

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

Aranatha is 0 to 60 on this case (blocks of text, tl/dr style). I think the theory of a dumb as shit symp is worth a peek, but right now, Okral caught my eye the most. I never like it when players break the 4th wall and discount their own suspicious behavior in advance in an attempt to forestall suspicion. It is a self awareness that provides an anchor to the claim that they were just being helpful, sorry to seem scummy, nothing to see here. A few other players did this "durr sorry I am scummy" today, but right now, Okral stood out in the context of everything becoming srs biz.

Vote Okral

Yeeeah, I can see it in retrospect. I think it was a result of nervousness to post anything tangible that early (which pretty much always backfires, as evidenced by the current state of things) and me trying to segue into the fact that it's probably the quiet people we should be looking at (although I think Venesara and Okaros might just be MIA?). Apparently I didn't actually need to rush a post though, since it pretty much immediately got crazy in here.

I'm also not sure what to think of Aranatha. It's not the actual content that's odd so much as the phrasing/aggression. Trolling for kicks? Trying to poke poke poke? Or trying to act so aggressive no one would suspect him of actually being legitimately scum?

Still not ready to vote on anyone. Most cases so far are pretty weak, but do make a little sense. I'll be pretty busy tomorrow, but I'll try to at least read up and vote before the day rolls over.

[Gait]

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 01:55 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:54 AM, said:

Rikkter, on 13 May 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

Aranatha is 0 to 60 on this case (blocks of text, tl/dr style). I think the theory of a dumb as shit symp is worth a peek, but right now, Okral caught my eye the most. I never like it when players break the 4th wall and discount their own suspicious behavior in advance in an attempt to forestall suspicion. It is a self awareness that provides an anchor to the claim that they were just being helpful, sorry to seem scummy, nothing to see here. A few other players did this "durr sorry I am scummy" today, but right now, Okral stood out in the context of everything becoming srs biz.

Vote Okral

quote the post or people are gonna ignore/miss it...this motherfucker is gonna be a bitch to follow even if people quote the posts they referring to never mind if they don't.

Sure. Better?

I'll be honest, Aranatha and Sheltatha read hyper sensitive right now...although Aranatha might be the type of player to dive into arguments feet first. Shelly seems to have an "anywhere but here" vibe. I noted that before.

Its early and I tend to credit Symp cases once everyone has had a say. Still, I think someone hit the mark and scum might be flooding pages to draw attention off.

The only player that has had any real heat on them was Thyrllen whos been extremely mild.

Sheltatha started that train and I agree with the "perfectly average" reasoning. Sheltatha hasn't leaned into Thyrllen despite Thyrs continued mild play style. that feels a bit off. Okral Lom has also been perfectly average and chill but keeps a sharp eye on the game.


I think there may be something here. I keep thinking were I scum i'd play like one of these two.

[Kalse]

The problem with symp cases is that they can be true, but it makes it hard to be sure why they start stirring things (and who exactly they try to deflect from), but also they are a symp best tool, big cases, lots of discussions and quoting, all that not to put a vote since the person in the case is not the one we want lynched (or if we do we won't know whether the case was true).

Still, I'm not complaining, this info being out there can be useful later in the game!

[Kalse]

I will on the other hand


remove vote


vote Okral Lom

I see a pattern in his posts:

Okral Lom, on 12 May 2020 - 12:02 AM, said:

I feel insecure about my avatar. No rocks. No epic sky or landscape. Just a generic brown bear in a generic forest.

Trying to get sympathy

Okral Lom, on 12 May 2020 - 03:54 AM, said:

Gait, on 12 May 2020 - 02:16 AM, said:

Sometimes being the bear minimum is enough. (sorry,not sorry)

No matter what happens, you've already won.

The original post I jokingly referred as symping Gait, but ultimately it is a post trying to make a friend

Okral Lom, on 12 May 2020 - 11:26 PM, said:

[...]
Of course, you and I are in trouble now. I've posted after you mentioned my name, which makes me seem like I'm defending myself (I need to go afk for about 5 hours, and this game is far too quiet. Someone needs to post!). You, on the other hand, are likely to be accused of grasping at straws to turn the vote from Thyr (making you a potential symp or killer).

Alas, this is the curse of early Mafia posting. The smart ones are staying quiet. Just so you quiet people know, your silence is also suspicious!

Lots of self-commiseration, trying to get sympathy, and over-sensitivity to "defending himself" (what's wrong with that?)

Okral Lom, on 13 May 2020 - 03:58 AM, said:

[...]

Yeeeah, I can see it in retrospect. I think it was a result of nervousness to post anything tangible that early (which pretty much always backfires, as evidenced by the current state of things) and me trying to segue into the fact that it's probably the quiet people we should be looking at (although I think Venesara and Okaros might just be MIA?). Apparently I didn't actually need to rush a post though, since it pretty much immediately got crazy in here.

I'm also not sure what to think of Aranatha. It's not the actual content that's odd so much as the phrasing/aggression. Trolling for kicks? Trying to poke poke poke? Or trying to act so aggressive no one would suspect him of actually being legitimately scum?

Still not ready to vote on anyone. Most cases so far are pretty weak, but do make a little sense. I'll be pretty busy tomorrow, but I'll try to at least read up and vote before the day rolls over.

Trying to get sympathy, asks seemingly accusatory questions but doesn't answer them, comments on existing cases without making one.

[Kalse]

I understand what he says about the difficulty of early posting, and that may simply be the case here, but this (subconscious?) need to get sympathy at every post can be one effect of playing as a killer.

[Barghast]

Prazec Goul, on 12 May 2020 - 10:26 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 May 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

Skintick, on 12 May 2020 - 06:40 PM, said:

sorry, all, My VPN tunnel to the work PC keeps dropping, so I had to kill all browser windows to keep the precious Wi-Fi bandwidth flowing.




As usual, if someone's making a symp case, the logical conclusion should be, who is that person trying to symp. I never get tired of having to repeat that.

Prazec, Shelthata, Okral.

Ok. So you think Skintick is a symp, and that he is symping one of us. But he even says to not lynch the symp, lynch the one he’s symping.

What shitty symp would tell you to lynch his killer?

I’ve had a couple drinks and probably should go to bed, but I’m not getting this logic.

What shitty symptom would never tell you to lynch his master?

Re Skintick signals: the extremely and 3/4 reads as most likely fake signalling if anything to me

Not caught up properly and spending the next couple of hours driving but should be back before eod

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1. About 13 hours and a half remaining.

21 people left alive.

1 vote Tennes; Aranatha
3 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse
1 vote Skintick; Sheltatha Lore

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 May 2020 - 07:55 AM

[Kalse]

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

It is day 1. About 13 hours and a half remaining.

21 people left alive.

1 votes Thyrllan; Skintick
1 vote Tennes; Aranatha
3 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse
1 vote Skintick; Sheltatha Lore

Skintick has two votes there?

[Ruse]

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1. About 12 hours and a half remaining.

21 people left alive.

2 votes Tennes; Aranatha, Ruse
3 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse
1 vote Skintick; Sheltatha Lore

[Merrid]

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

Number of players. It would make sense for there to be a symp for balance.

[Ruse]

Merrid, on 13 May 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

Number of players. It would make sense for there to be a symp for balance.

Sure, a symp is a possibility but not a certainty. Could also be 4 killers without comms. Or two killer pairs, or a bunch of other alternatives. To spend a day arguing over symps when we might not even have one ...

[Tennes]

Back online but will be a while before I'm properly read up.

A quick note for now:

Barghast, on 13 May 2020 - 06:55 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 12 May 2020 - 10:26 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 May 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

Skintick, on 12 May 2020 - 06:40 PM, said:

sorry, all, My VPN tunnel to the work PC keeps dropping, so I had to kill all browser windows to keep the precious Wi-Fi bandwidth flowing.




As usual, if someone's making a symp case, the logical conclusion should be, who is that person trying to symp. I never get tired of having to repeat that.

Prazec, Shelthata, Okral.

Ok. So you think Skintick is a symp, and that he is symping one of us. But he even says to not lynch the symp, lynch the one he’s symping.

What shitty symp would tell you to lynch his killer?

I’ve had a couple drinks and probably should go to bed, but I’m not getting this logic.

What shitty symptom would never tell you to lynch his master?

This is a good observation. The question from Prazec is so obtuse that I have a hard time believing it's genuine.


As a side-note: I don't think Aranatha is scum. I'm sure as hell annoyed at their blinkers but this just feels like a classic bad town play.

[Kalse]

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

That's a strange summary of the events, why these two in particular?

There has been quite a discussion indeed recently between Aranatha, Tennes, Skintick and Shelthata, with small contributions from others. Plus, I found only 1 post from Tennes responding explicitly to something Aranatha said.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 02:10 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 01:40 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 01:28 AM, said:

LOL I'm the symp now? That's hilarious. I actually think Tennes might be Skintick's symp, just might. Or Tennes is trying to take away the heat from some other vote by randomly choosing someone to target, then safely removing the vote.
I'm considering Skintick also - especially after the loud noises Tennes has made. Other than that Sheltatha Lore is behaving suspicious aswell, since he so easily is dismissing what I'm saying by strawmanning and then denying it.

I would have thought that you guys would have all figured out what "strawmannirg" is by now... clearly that's not the case.

Anyway im off to bed, this clown is clearly losing the plot.

my vote stands.

Shall we take a look at what happened shall we? First you questioned my poke at Skintick from the start, Yes I'm going at him hard, because that's what poking is, genius. And oh boy did I get a hit. No wonder you won't vote for me.

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:43 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 13 May 2020 - 12:28 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 12:17 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 12 May 2020 - 11:57 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 12 May 2020 - 11:46 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 12 May 2020 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honestly Tennes, if you're not scum, then my vibe scanner is so off, I might aswell go and live in a shoe box and never play mafia again. Although I'm not tiny enough for a shoe box. Hmm. As soon as anyone start making up ridiculous claims after barely one day, over analyzing word choices claiming symp, I get major scum vibes. Actually my radar is going off like crazy right now. Beep Beep BEEP.First you vote Skintick for absolutely no reason, then take the vote away for even less. Trying to seem like town so much, you might aswell have a giant 'scum' sign above your head. Just saying. I guess you could be poking for the sake of poking, and as such randomness can work sometimes, but I'm not really convinced that's your motive. I can SMELL you. Huh. ALSO can we PLEASE have some normal vote counting - the current vote counting is confusing as fuck. Also I don't want to have to keep counting how many votes are necessary - would Path-fucker please give an update with that. Pfff. Back to Tennes the scum scummery scum. Did you really hover over Skintick like a giant hovercrafting hovercraft sent to hover, and didn't think nobody would notice? Care to explain yourself hover-over-er?

hmmm...this is interesting.I don't think what Tennes has said/done really warrants this level of backlash. I can understand a mild amount of scrutiny (as I have myself indicated)... But you seem to really be going at him quite hard. So the question for me os...Are you a symp jumping to someone he has scrutinised's rescue by deflecting onto him?...or simply the village idiot jumping the gun with his "vibe scanner"?Either way...food for thought.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but I honestly don't think so. Just put yourself in the shoes of a scum playing. It's possible he would act the way Tennes has - the problem with scum posting is that you either get this feeling they don't really care about who gets the vote, unless you accidentally hit a scum friend of theirs - either way it's hard to tell which is which, especially this early in the game. I'm just watching the way people post and trying to read between the lines, just as you. There's just something about how Tennes writes his post that comes off scummy to me. As scum it's easy to get caught up in the 'playing it normal', especially if you're excited to play but still don't want to stand out. You can fall in a trap of doing just that, because what you're posting isn't authentic. Tennes posts doesn't seem authentic to me. If you have a better idea who could be scum this early in the game, I'm all ears.

The thing that makes me raise my eyebrows is your level of certainty. Which is odd to me.you cannot be so sure at this point, so your accusations seem a bit off. your temerity of his convictions is noteworthy. My thinking is either you are throwing accusations purposely to deflect something Tennes might have gotten right (be it accidentally or luckily). Or.. you are maybe a bit of an over eager village idiot. It's worth looking at.

I can't know for sure that I'm right, as I said before and you purposefully ignored above. But I think my reasoning is pretty solid actually. Why would you be against looking at Tennes? And as I said, if someone has something better, be my guest and point to it. Tennes can also do as I asked and try to explain why he jumped on Skintick for no reason. Instead he pointed back to his own posts, which is pointless. For the record, I have no reason to deflect anything - Tennes just seems scummy to me, that's it.

my entire point is based on the very fact that you "can't know for sure you're right" so I dunno how you can think I ignored it.?And I'm not against voting Tennes where did I day that?... you are just strawmannirg that idea (yes motherfucker STRAW-MANNING, I said it, cause its true) My focus was simply at how your unfounded certainly was so much of a sore thumb and seemed a bit fake as fuck. deflection attempt? or idiocy? time will tell.

I clearly imply in my reply to you that I can't know for sure that I'm right - but I know about as much as anyone else voting at this stage, so how am I so apparently a 'symp'? After I explain my thinking, you still say you don't like how 'certain' I am. And even though I've clearly explained my thinking how I arrived at my 'accusations', you still come to the conclusions it must be 'deflecting'. How exactly? Noone knows.
And I CLEARLY only ASKED why you WOULD not want us to look at Tennes, never did I claim you actually HAD anything against it - but thanks for this perfect level of strawmanning, genius.

Not only have you called me an idiot every single post you've replied to me, you DEFINITELY have an issue with me poking at Tennes.

I'll give you this though, I could have been clearer about not being able to know FOR SURE about Tennes - but you're just being petty at this point - I'm sure you're not anymore sure about your votes than I am. I said several times I clearly can't know for sure. However, you obviously don't want me poking at your buddy Tennes anymore. So thanks for the clarification.

The Lady doth protest too much, methinks.


My entire jab in your direction is predicated on how hard you SUDDENLY went at Tennes over a very weak symp signalling case. (Which I had also pointed out and thought was way too obvious to be a scum case BTW)
Yet you went much more HAM at him that what I felt it warranted. Which I found interesting.

Your subsequent "replies" to myself asking why you where so ham fisted about Tennes is that you suddenly "don't know for sure..."
Well your initial tyrade at him is there for everyone to see. And that dent suddenly become void.


...So why go so hard initially?

Well...

My thinking was you perhaps tried to derail/divert attention away form his (all be it shitty) symp signalling case... and I said as much.

You then Strawmanned me by flat out stating that I don't want to Lynch/vote Tennes.
And then you subsequently tried to bolster your argument even more with this straw-man claim you plucked out of the sky about me by saying I am now the symp to Tennes because of this.
Nowhere did I say that I would not vote or Lynch Tennes. Yet you seem to think it's a perfectly fine thing to flaunt as if it is a fact to further your claims.

When I pointed this out, you then have the teremity claim that I in fact was the one Straw-manning?..lovely that.

So as I said before you are either a symp, pushing a new agenda very loudly away from SOMETHING... OR a village idiot (BTW this not a personal insult just a term for a towny throwing shit at walls, so please don't have another brain aneurysm about it)

[Gait]

Kalse, on 13 May 2020 - 08:26 AM, said:

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

In terms of votes, I have read up on the thread and I am not convinced that it would be a good idea to leave both Aranatha and Tennes alive for tomorrow. If they both survive, we are likely going to have a re-production of this exact spat. It would give us no additional information and we would not be better off in making a choice between them tomorrow.

Therefore, I am in favor of lynching either of the two today. As there is already one vote on Tennes, I will live mine on there as well until tomorrow.

I hope to get a chance to check the thread and change my vote if needed tomorrow.

Vote Tennes

That's a strange summary of the events, why these two in particular?

There has been quite a discussion indeed recently between Aranatha, Tennes, Skintick and Shelthata, with small contributions from others. Plus, I found only 1 post from Tennes responding explicitly to something Aranatha said.

This.

Tennes only had one vote on him till just now. Aranathas argument on Tennes was flat out instinctual and few actually bought in.
If anything all Ruse does in this post is divert the vote to Tennes from what looked like an Okral lynch. Creating a split where before there was none.

This reads like derailment from Ruse who was otherwise none existent.


Vote Okral Lom

This is the informative vote.