[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

'Nurses blocking cars in Downtown Denver to counter-protest those who are against the State's "Stay-at-Home" order'

https://twitter.com/...979199314661377



'Protesting for the Right to Catch the Coronavirus'

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 20 April 2020 - 02:46 AM

[amphibian]

Cause, on 19 April 2020 - 08:29 PM, said:

South Africans drink, and there have been issues with people trying to loot liquour stores and everything and I wouldnt want to be trapped in a house with an alcaholic going cold turkey but the consequences are not as bad as I would have guessed.

People sometimes die from going through alcohol withdrawal without medical assistance. The consequences of withdrawal are usually awful for many days even with medical assistance, which is in short supply right now due to the pandemic.

Some people can get through detox themselves. Some people can't. The numbers of how many alcoholics there are in a country is really hard to figure out. But in the USA, there's models that estimate that 2-4% of the population has alcohol abuse problems. 2% is over 6.5 million people. I don't know how many can't get through withdrawal themselves, but that's significant enough numbers to add load to hospitals, emergency services, and people themselves in a time when it's really not a great idea to do that.

[Mezla PigDog]

Prolonged alcohol exposure fundamentally changes your brain chemistry. In order to keep balanced the brain over produces a particular chemical to compensate for the excessive ones caused by the alcohol metabolism. If you withdraw all alcohol then the brain can't immediately undo this over compensation and it can cause fatal seizures due to neurotransmitter imbalance. The state removing all access to alcohol will definitely cause deaths of a subset of alcoholics.

But in this country it's the average consumer who counts access to alcohol as a basic human right who would kick up a stink. We're all hypocrites saying protect the NHS and pickling ourselves at the same time.

[Macros]

Liz said it more eloquently than I as usual.

It's us spoiled peasants kicking up a fuss about alcopops, it's not driven by any consideration for alcoholics, they're a drain on the system in the Tories eyes anyway.

[Macros]

Here's a question. How many people will be coming out of this lockdown either having a full blown drinking problem or at least drinking a hell of a lot more?

[Mezla PigDog]

I read a stat that said 1 in 3 Brits have reduced or stopped drinking all together but 1 in 5 have increased.

Swings and roundabouts for me. Child rearing with even a hint of a hangover is brutal and my sleep gets disrupted by even one drink now. I lie awake sweating in a state of terrible anxiety. So I was cutting down anyway without it being difficult. On the other hand, full time child rearing and working is quite a challenge so I need my crutch occasionally.

[Tsundoku]

So less often but more ... "acute"?

[Mezla PigDog]

Sombre called it.

[Macros]

I'd say I'm drinking less on the overall weekly count for sure, but possibly a beer or two in the evening is more common now because I'm at home, it's nice weather. If I was across the water I'd be working 12 your days, home, food and bed for 4 days of the week, so little or no drinking (bar a midweek match to watch) but usually one big night most weekends, or in to watch the footy in the pub at least (usually a 5/6 pint event minimum)

Outside of drinking I was feeling shit for a few days there, but I'm fairly sure that's a heady combination of my shoulder disrupting sleep and the onset of hay fever season. But then today I had a few little coughs to myself and instantly assumed that I'm a gonner.

It's cleared again, 99% sure it was a food related incident but man I dislike this constant background worry I've developed about this.
It's a healthy fear, I get that, it means I'll keep to protocols and watch myself when doing the shopping etc, but it's just this background niggle in my head, and every time Nuala has a sugar spike or dip that's outside of the norm or a bit wayward (shes very good at managing her diabetes) I start to worry if she has caught it, working in the health center.

Blegh, first world problems, we're getting it fairly smooth in NI compared to the mainland, and at least being on the farm there's no shortage of outdoors work and wandering to do

[QuickTidal]

Azath Vitr (D, on 20 April 2020 - 02:37 AM, said:

The video of this incident is disheartening...the only good thing to come of it was 3 or 4 people who walked across the crosswalk patted him on the back or expressed some other form os solidarity.

This woman is a cancerous shitball...she was hurling racist abuse at this poor nurse as well as her "Muh Freedoms" bollocks. Fucking C***.

Also, in another interview I saw Maga hat wearing chuds claiming that they know the virus is real and a threat, but the flu is worse (funnily enough as of yesterday COVID-19 is now officially worse than the 2018-19 flu season...so that shit don't fly anymore thankfully) and they just think they should be able to work. Like fucking hell people.

Someone in the protest had a sign that read "I want a haircut"....what is wrong with your country? Seriously.

Oh, and I heard that the numbers are now spiking in Kentucky where one of these "protest staying home" shit happened a week ago...so right on tickety fucking time for infection to symptoms. You can't make this shit up.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 20 April 2020 - 11:57 AM

[Tsundoku]

That woman in the overcompensation wagon is a wonderful example of one of my favourite sayings: "Stereotypes exist for a reason".

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

'Coronavirus mutations affect deadliness of strains, Chinese study finds
Chinese team finds first hard evidence that mutation can affect how severely virus harms its host

Most aggressive strains could generate 270 times as much viral load as the least potent type

[...] the ability of the new coronavirus to mutate has been vastly underestimated and different strains may account for different impacts of the disease in various parts of the world. [...] many mutations not previously reported. These mutations included changes so rare that scientists had never considered they might occur.

[...] A separate study had found that New York strains had been imported from Europe. The death rate in New York was similar to that in many European countries, if not worse.'

https://www.scmp.com...s-chinese-study

'"The majority is clearly European," said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

A separate team at N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine came to strikingly similar conclusions, despite studying a different group of cases. Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March.'

https://www.nytimes....pe-genomes.html

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 20 April 2020 - 04:33 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

'Bolsonaro Leads Crowded Anti-Lockdown Protest in Brazil, Repeatedly Coughs Without Wearing a Mask

[...] Trump has cheered on anti-lockdown protests from the safety of his Twitter feed, he hasn't actually been brave—or stupid—enough to step out among the crowds. [...] Bolsonaro [...] called the protesters "patriots" and said they were helping defend individual freedoms. Brazil has more cases of the novel coronavirus than any other country in Latin America, with over 38,000 confirmed cases and 2,462 deaths.'


'Bolsonaro[...] has been in close proximity to several people who tested positive'

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 20 April 2020 - 05:02 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Mez/Gorefest, can you offer any insight as to why the UK is lagging in testing for COVID19? In terms of infrastructure for these things I'd have thought the UK would be similar if not ahead of other european countries, so I'm surprised that the testing rate is growing so slowly in comparisson. Is it a raw materials issue, a leadership issue or something else?

[Tiste Simeon]

Imperial Historian, on 20 April 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

Mez/Gorefest, can you offer any insight as to why the UK is lagging in testing for COVID19? In terms of infrastructure for these things I'd have thought the UK would be similar if not ahead of other european countries, so I'm surprised that the testing rate is growing so slowly in comparisson. Is it a raw materials issue, a leadership issue or something else?

Yes.

[Macros]

My sister has now declared she won't be taking any vaccine when/if they appear.

Her degree in geography has led her to the solid conclusion that it needs at least 15 years testing before she will get it.
Her degree in geography or Facebook, one of the two

[Cause]

Macros, on 20 April 2020 - 06:38 PM, said:

My sister has now declared she won't be taking any vaccine when/if they appear.

Her degree in geography has led her to the solid conclusion that it needs at least 15 years testing before she will get it.
Her degree in geography or Facebook, one of the two

Well I suppose we could be injecting the entire human race with a prion disease but that seems unlikely. Otherwise except for the inactive virus, or viral proteins every component of the vaccine will have been around and thoroughly tested for years.

It makes me sad, when the polio vaccine was invented people thought it was divine intervention. Now we have people who think they are evil. I don’t understand that people trust the mechanic they trust the lawyer they trust their tax consultant but no one trust scientists anymore.

Edit- I was being silly before and if one of covids proteins was a prion anyone infected with it would get that anyway, vaccines are amongst the safest medical interventions we have. I would never volunteer for a drug trial, never but a vaccine trial would be far less risky.

This post has been edited by Cause: 20 April 2020 - 07:57 PM

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

But what if it gives me HIV? I don't let people stick phallic objects in my body!

This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: 20 April 2020 - 08:01 PM

[Cause]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 20 April 2020 - 08:00 PM, said:

But what if it gives me HIV? I don't let people stick phallic objects in my body!

It’s too late, when the illuminati is ready they plan to switch the polarity of the 5g towers. This will prevent them from causing more covid but will begin to turn people gay. Resistance is futile.

[Cause]

I don’t understand, we are running out of places to store oil. The price is now negative dollars. Can’t we halt production?