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#641 User is offline   Jazzarm 

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Posted 29 October 2019 - 11:48 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 29 October 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

Jazz, my cuddley collection of ones and zeros, what do you say? Leaving me Wellon must surely not be a high price to pay for booting twelve out of MR.


It does me no good to make Mecatol more accessible if I can't ever hope to reach it by being blocked on Wellon. On top of that I'm sitting on 4 influence, about to be down to 3. If you want to keep Wellon the price has to be higher. Sorry, but no deal.

I'll just stick with my plan A and hope people will do the right thing. And as they say, the right thing is its own reward, but I'll still pay out the actual reward - 1tg to each of 2 players who put up the most votes.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:20 PM

Alright, we're up to D'rek for Status Phase! :)
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:24 PM

View Posttwelve, on 28 October 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 October 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

@Twelve, I offer the following: I will use my Galactic Threat ability on the planet of your choice, in exchange for either {a} 2 TG (whenever you next get them), or {b} you pick the POLITICS strategy card next round and make me Speaker (you're 5th pick, so it's a somewhat probable choice anyways). The galaxy will probably still pick one of your planets to disarm, but you'll likely be able to influence them away from a particular planet to the other to keep your plans as intact as you can.

As I'm the most likely choice anyway and I'd rather not lose any infantry I'm going to first try and garner support to another players planet. Though as I expect to not have much luck in this department I'm sure we can work something out.


Last call...

Done. Nom's turn.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:54 PM

D'rek, have you given thought as to a deal we could strike?
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:08 PM

View PostD, on 28 October 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostJazzarm, on 28 October 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

I'd give up 2tg's of the 5, one each to the two players who put up the most votes.


That seems unnecessarily magnaminous when there's plenty of motivation for that vote already


It does, doesn't it? I think you should put up one of the 2 tg's, if you end up getting a tech out of it. Gravity Drive for the low low price of 1tg seems like a really good deal for you!

Of course, a tech for 0tg is a better deal for you, but I hardly think a reputation as a freeloader will do you much good down the line.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:18 PM

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 28 October 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 October 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

@Twelve, I offer the following: I will use my Galactic Threat ability on the planet of your choice, in exchange for either {a} 2 TG (whenever you next get them), or {b} you pick the POLITICS strategy card next round and make me Speaker (you're 5th pick, so it's a somewhat probable choice anyways). The galaxy will probably still pick one of your planets to disarm, but you'll likely be able to influence them away from a particular planet to the other to keep your plans as intact as you can.

As I'm the most likely choice anyway and I'd rather not lose any infantry I'm going to first try and garner support to another players planet. Though as I expect to not have much luck in this department I'm sure we can work something out.


Last call...

Done. Nom's turn.

I knew you would place it there without having to be paid. If my offer of Stimy wouldn't sway people then your rider on Rex wouldnt change their mind either.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:33 PM

View Posttwelve, on 29 October 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 28 October 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 28 October 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

@Twelve, I offer the following: I will use my Galactic Threat ability on the planet of your choice, in exchange for either {a} 2 TG (whenever you next get them), or {b} you pick the POLITICS strategy card next round and make me Speaker (you're 5th pick, so it's a somewhat probable choice anyways). The galaxy will probably still pick one of your planets to disarm, but you'll likely be able to influence them away from a particular planet to the other to keep your plans as intact as you can.

As I'm the most likely choice anyway and I'd rather not lose any infantry I'm going to first try and garner support to another players planet. Though as I expect to not have much luck in this department I'm sure we can work something out.


Last call...

Done. Nom's turn.

I knew you would place it there without having to be paid. If my offer of Stimy wouldn't sway people then your rider on Rex wouldnt change their mind either.


I actually very heavily considered picking the other agenda and IH...


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View PostD, on 28 October 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostJazzarm, on 28 October 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

I'd give up 2tg's of the 5, one each to the two players who put up the most votes.


That seems unnecessarily magnaminous when there's plenty of motivation for that vote already


It does, doesn't it? I think you should put up one of the 2 tg's, if you end up getting a tech out of it. Gravity Drive for the low low price of 1tg seems like a really good deal for you!

Of course, a tech for 0tg is a better deal for you, but I hardly think a reputation as a freeloader will do you much good down the line.


Really? I should pay TG to use my racial? Are you going to pay 1 TG every time you use Harrow or transport two units instead of one in one of your dreadnoughts?

Besides, being Nekro has made it so I haven't even gotten a single trade good the whole game yet.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:35 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

D'rek, have you given thought as to a deal we could strike?


Well it depends, are you still sticking to what you said at the start where you don't care about winning or even trying to win, your main priority is to just stay in the game?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:41 PM

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

D'rek, have you given thought as to a deal we could strike?


Well it depends, are you still sticking to what you said at the start where you don't care about winning or even trying to win, your main priority is to just stay in the game?


I do want to win. Others have had good starts that's all.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:43 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

D'rek, have you given thought as to a deal we could strike?


Well it depends, are you still sticking to what you said at the start where you don't care about winning or even trying to win, your main priority is to just stay in the game?


I do want to win. Others have had good starts that's all.


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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:46 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

D'rek, have you given thought as to a deal we could strike?


Well it depends, are you still sticking to what you said at the start where you don't care about winning or even trying to win, your main priority is to just stay in the game?


I do want to win. Others have had good starts that's all.


Well, you know what Sima Yi said. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 02:56 PM

Should I care what Sima Yi said?

I'm looking at moving ships from Tau Bootis this round, but if you do decide to come calling before I do then I won't be retreating. You'll find it hard to take that planet. You've got good production anyway and ships already built. I have more claim to that planet than you do.

Would you be amenable to an exchange of ceasefire's?

Could you have done more to score objective's?
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:00 PM

I would have taken MR on round one.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:01 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

but if you do decide to come calling before I do then I won't be retreating. You'll find it hard to take that planet.


Flagship and 2 dreadnoughts vs dreadnought-carrier-cruiser. Seems pretty easy to me. Let's plug it into the battle calculator to be su-oh wow, literally 100% odds.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:13 PM

But I suppose if I had your SFFT and you passed the Creuss racial PN you're getting from Morgoth to me, then we could swap ceasefires and call it off.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:16 PM

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

but if you do decide to come calling before I do then I won't be retreating. You'll find it hard to take that planet.


Flagship and 2 dreadnoughts vs dreadnought-carrier-cruiser. Seems pretty easy to me. Let's plug it into the battle calculator to be su-oh wow, literally 100% odds.


Yes your ships will win that fight. Taking the planet is another matter.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:24 PM

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

But I suppose if I had your SFFT and you passed the Creuss racial PN you're getting from Morgoth to me, then we could swap ceasefires and call it off.


This is more like it. It's a start of a negotiation between two civilised races. You already have access to a wormhole, and reaching through Alpha wormhole would be too spacy. Ie too many moves. Morgoth only wanted the alpha wormhole placed and it was a stipulation in our negotiation. What would you want it for?
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:33 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

But I suppose if I had your SFFT and you passed the Creuss racial PN you're getting from Morgoth to me, then we could swap ceasefires and call it off.


This is more like it. It's a start of a negotiation between two civilised races. You already have access to a wormhole, and reaching through Alpha wormhole would be too spacy. Ie too many moves. Morgoth only wanted the alpha wormhole placed and it was a stipulation in our negotiation. What would you want it for?


It'd be a deterrent against it being used on me and/or I could sell it.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:39 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostD, on 29 October 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

but if you do decide to come calling before I do then I won't be retreating. You'll find it hard to take that planet.


Flagship and 2 dreadnoughts vs dreadnought-carrier-cruiser. Seems pretty easy to me. Let's plug it into the battle calculator to be su-oh wow, literally 100% odds.


Yes your ships will win that fight. Taking the planet is another matter.


74%, apparently. Vastly better if I pick up Plasma Scoring from this agenda phase.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 29 October 2019 - 04:19 PM

Poor bugs. Everyone’s always going on about stomping them. Do they suffer from even more space persecution than even the Saar?
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