[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 28 October 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:59 PM, said:

Alternatively, IH, if you don't fight me for the agenda, then I'm happy to let you have that 3-planet system and not contest for it in any way, which I think the potential was building up.

This is of interest to the Yin, we always seek fresh ground for our brethren. Let us see how the status phase plays out.

The Yin are curious as to where the let nev will go however if the 3 planet system is removed from their grasp.

The Letnev's traditions and policies have been much misunderstood in the past, and we have been unfairly maligned as a 'warlike' race. Nothing could be further from the truth. Because we fucked up our first round Because of our inherent belief in the dictum 'live and let live', we are very happy in our corner of the galaxy, and the current objectives nicely align with continuing that policy.

[Jazzarm]

Imperial Historian, on 28 October 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 28 October 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 28 October 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

Just to note you can only vote one way on a particular agenda, so voting for me would lock twelve out of voting for you.

Jazz I'll vote 3 on rex for 4 on me for minister of policy.

If nobody matches or counteroffers by the time voting starts, agreed.

Since by calling my votes in from twelve and putting 3 of my own votes on rex I'm effectively providing 15 votes to your desired outcome I'd like to think that should be hard to beat.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is beating that. My comment was more along the spirit of, didn't wanna make anyone feel like they don't get a chance to counteroffer just because you were the first to respond.

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

And what is the profit split share?

I'd give up 2tg's of the 5, one each to the two players who put up the most votes.

[D'rek]

Jazzarm, on 28 October 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

I'd give up 2tg's of the 5, one each to the two players who put up the most votes.

That seems unnecessarily magnaminous when there's plenty of motivation for that vote already, but I guess it does incentivize people to vote more for that agenda and leave you a shot at getting the Ministry.

[ToasTer86]

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

[twelve]

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

Styimey is not off the table. There would be a lot of conditions I would put in place before I would hand it out. I'd like to know from the other players if that would be enough to not target me with the Disarmament agenda before I get into specifics. It seems like everyone is afraid I wouldn't be removable from Rex. With my racial out that alone will prevent that.

[ToasTer86]

twelve, on 28 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

Styimey is not off the table. There would be a lot of conditions I would put in place before I would hand it out. I'd like to know from the other players if that would be enough to not target me with the Disarmament agenda before I get into specifics. It seems like everyone is afraid I wouldn't be removable from Rex. With my racial out that alone will prevent that.

That is what I thought. Seemed you risked a lot to get there. I don't want to gut you. But having 4->8->16 infantry there is scary

[Galactic Council]

Game Map has been updated to the end of the action phase (so excluding Toaster's status phase).

[Khellendros]

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

twelve, on 28 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

Styimey is not off the table. There would be a lot of conditions I would put in place before I would hand it out. I'd like to know from the other players if that would be enough to not target me with the Disarmament agenda before I get into specifics. It seems like everyone is afraid I wouldn't be removable from Rex. With my racial out that alone will prevent that.

That is what I thought. Seemed you risked a lot to get there. I don't want to gut you. But having 4->8->16 infantry there is scary

Am I correct in thinking that the effect of Stymie could by stymied by the Bioplasmosis tech?

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

twelve, on 28 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

Styimey is not off the table. There would be a lot of conditions I would put in place before I would hand it out. I'd like to know from the other players if that would be enough to not target me with the Disarmament agenda before I get into specifics. It seems like everyone is afraid I wouldn't be removable from Rex. With my racial out that alone will prevent that.

That is what I thought. Seemed you risked a lot to get there. I don't want to gut you. But having 4->8->16 infantry there is scary

Am I correct in thinking that the effect of Stymie could by stymied by the Bioplasmosis tech?

I can only move infantry to adjacent systems. I would have to daisy chain them. Somehow I doubt I would be allowed to have a chain of linked planets to Rex.

[twelve]

Also it is only able to be used during the status phase so there should be plenty of opportunities to cut the line if I somehow gain a line.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

twelve, on 28 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

ToasTer86, on 28 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

Wowsers, well done Toaster on getting a tricky secret objective completed already!

Thank you !

A lot of discussion is going on.
The Snakes votes are for sale. But only after the math is done of squashing the plant problem Mecatol.
Like Jazz said, I applaud you on reaching it this quick and the way you did. But I think the Galaxy will be better off removing that infantry there.

But the Sexy Mind Snakes are reasonable !
The one way to sway me is to trade your racial "stimy" with me. As we will not be neighbors anywhere else then Mecatol and this way we prevent you from permantly rooting yourself there.

Styimey is not off the table. There would be a lot of conditions I would put in place before I would hand it out. I'd like to know from the other players if that would be enough to not target me with the Disarmament agenda before I get into specifics. It seems like everyone is afraid I wouldn't be removable from Rex. With my racial out that alone will prevent that.

That is what I thought. Seemed you risked a lot to get there. I don't want to gut you. But having 4->8->16 infantry there is scary

Am I correct in thinking that the effect of Stymie could by stymied by the Bioplasmosis tech?

Stymie doesn't just stop him from building infantry, it stops Arborec from producing any units whatsoever in adjacent systems (except Nestphar). Even using Bioplasmosis/Transit Nodes to move infantry in, the lack of space defences would make it easy to defeat.

But the much, much bigger danger for Twelve is that he trades away Stymie, and instead of playing it Toaster trades it again to IH or to me, who play it, banning Twelve from producing in almost all of his hexes.

[Morgoth]

I have a lot of votes available, and came too late into this discussion to get anywhere with the action cards I fear. So, I am happy to put my weight behind MR, but if so, if I am to offer all that rather than have Khell or IH pay me a little something to secure their choice in the other agenda, II'd like a promise from tatts and jazz to let me keep Wellon, at least for this round.

[Morgoth]

Khell, if your slize of the galaxy ever feels claustrophobic, I have a PN to offer you. I reckon we can reach an agreement that will please us both.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 29 October 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

I have a lot of votes available, and came too late into this discussion to get anywhere with the action cards I fear. So, I am happy to put my weight behind MR, but if so, if I am to offer all that rather than have Khell or IH pay me a little something to secure their choice in the other agenda, II'd like a promise from tatts and jazz to let me keep Wellon, at least for this round.

I have a proposal for you, to help with your negotiations regarding votes. I'd like your thoughts;

I want your racial and you to convert my commodity with your TG and you can have all my votes to place were you choose. That'd give you 17 votes to play with.

What were your placement rules?

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 29 October 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

I have a lot of votes available, and came too late into this discussion to get anywhere with the action cards I fear. So, I am happy to put my weight behind MR, but if so, if I am to offer all that rather than have Khell or IH pay me a little something to secure their choice in the other agenda, II'd like a promise from tatts and jazz to let me keep Wellon, at least for this round.

I have a proposal for you, to help with your negotiations regarding votes. I'd like your thoughts;

I want your racial and you to convert my commodity with your TG and you can have all my votes to place were you choose. That'd give you 17 votes to play with.

What were your placement rules?

Considering that I'm doing everyone a favour by placing my votes on MR, I don't think that I should have to pay for it too. If I am the only one of us eight willing to pull twelve from the brink of victory, then maybe he deserves that victory. I am however both willing to trade my PN and wash your commodity if you can accept my rights to Wellon on a more permanent basis. I'll move my ships given time, so you'll still be free to navigate through it.

The PN is simple. Use the alpha wormhole and don't place it next to any of my systems.

[Morgoth]

Jazz, my cuddley collection of ones and zeros, what do you say? Leaving me Wellon must surely not be a high price to pay for booting twelve out of MR.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 29 October 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 29 October 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 29 October 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

I have a lot of votes available, and came too late into this discussion to get anywhere with the action cards I fear. So, I am happy to put my weight behind MR, but if so, if I am to offer all that rather than have Khell or IH pay me a little something to secure their choice in the other agenda, II'd like a promise from tatts and jazz to let me keep Wellon, at least for this round.

I have a proposal for you, to help with your negotiations regarding votes. I'd like your thoughts;

I want your racial and you to convert my commodity with your TG and you can have all my votes to place were you choose. That'd give you 17 votes to play with.

What were your placement rules?

Considering that I'm doing everyone a favour by placing my votes on MR, I don't think that I should have to pay for it too. If I am the only one of us eight willing to pull twelve from the brink of victory, then maybe he deserves that victory. I am however both willing to trade my PN and wash your commodity if you can accept my rights to Wellon on a more permanent basis. I'll move my ships given time, so you'll still be free to navigate through it.

The PN is simple. Use the alpha wormhole and don't place it next to any of my systems.

Well I can agree to that as I'll use the wormhole to get around. I cannot speak for the L1 though.

So cool, that's a deal. I'll probably add my votes to yours anyway.

You having MR is similar to Twelve having MR by the by. Only you'll not be able to add inifinite infantry like him.

[Khellendros]

Talk about a convenient secret objective for the Creuss

[Morgoth]

Khellendros, on 29 October 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

Talk about a convenient secret objective for the Creuss

It seemed a thing of fate

[ToasTer86]

I am all in for getting Twelve of mecatol, but there is more ways then one to do it.
With stimy we could prevent him from producing there. But easier easier way is to use this agenda.