[Tsundoku]

Briar King, on 25 August 2020 - 10:40 PM, said:

... it already has a large black mark on it featuring that head case Shallen which has to be my single most least favorite character in any series I’ve ever read.

So you haven't read any Goodkind I take it ... ?

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 26 August 2020 - 07:49 AM

[Gabriele]

Briar King, on 25 August 2020 - 10:40 PM, said:

It’s certainly Whelan but it already has a large black mark on it featuring that head case Shallen which has to be my single most least favorite character in any series I’ve ever read. Lovely coloring though.

Maybe it's Veil or Radiant on the cover. Not exactly an improvement to Shallan, though.

[End of Disc One]

I'm starting to get pretty excited for this book. I'm avoiding the preview chapters, but people are saying they're exciting with some good Cosmere lore.


I've read the 4 recaps from 17th Shard here
and I recommend it if you need a refresher. And as always, the Coppermind Wiki is one of the best Wiki's you'll find for a fantasy author.

I just hope the Dawnshard novella comes out with enough time for me to read it before RoW.

[End of Disc One]

Yeah it's separate. It should be sent to Kickstarter backers for a TWoK special edition any day now, then sold to the general public after that.

[End of Disc One]

Yeah I spent about 20 minutes and decided to stop before I spent hours going down rabbit holes. Really well done and that timeline is awesome with the effects it has.

[End of Disc One]

There are 3 video reviews out so far. Based on the reviews I expect some mixed reactions to this book, like with Oathbringer or possibly even moreso.

A summary of some of the controversial points from the reviews:

Spoiler

1. It doesn't build up to a Sanderlanche where everything comes to together in a huge climax. Instead, there is a Sanderlanche at the beginning. The end is still very good and was compared to one of Sanderson's WoT endings (I'm hoping this is a comparison to Rand's character climax in The Gathering Storm)
2. The three main characters get less screen time. Sounds good to me.
3. More time devoted to the Parshendi and Navani. Not the characters I would have hoped for, but I'm open to it. One reviewer complained that new characters are still being introduced in book 4, but I like that.
4. The pacing was noted as an issue. I'm guessing some of that has to do with how it doesn't build up to a Sanderlanche. Also too many pages spent on some things, and not enough on others. That was a complaint I had with Oathbringer.

I guess I can't post the videos. The reviews are by Daniel Greene, Merphy Napier, and 17th Shard.

This post has been edited by End of Disc One: 09 November 2020 - 02:44 PM

[End of Disc One]

Based on the reviews I'd say there's a decent chance you'll struggle with RoW

[champ]

Slogbringer v2 for you BK by the sounds of it, I think I'll struggle too tbh. 200 pages too much which is what I thought about Oath...

[End of Disc One]

Was hoping for Rhythm of Bore, but Rhythm of Ass made me chuckle

[champ]

I thought Slog of War at first keeping with the theme but I do prefer Rhythm of Bore haha...

This post has been edited by champ: 09 November 2020 - 09:29 PM

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 17 November 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

Book is out. State your place in book and tag your reaction please.

Might be awhile before I can get it.

I'm still reading another book, but I might start it today to see how I do with it.

[QuickTidal]

Oh and here is the TOR quick and dirty recap of the story so far for anyone like me who has trouble keeping it all straight all this time later.

https://www.tor.com/...mlight-archive/

[QuickTidal]

Prologue down so far only (it's been a horrendously busy day).

Spoiler

It's interesting to see Navani and Gavilar interact the night of his death and how far he'd gone and how much he resented her for caring about Dalinar and him...

Oh and Aesuda (pre-bound to an Unmade in OB) is just as useless as you expect her to be even back before shit began hitting the fan AND Navani clearly thought she was a flirty shit. LOL

The Adventures of Lift, Szeth, Nightblood & Wyndle is what I'm hoping for most out of RoW...not gonna lie. But I'll be happy to just see them all.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 17 November 2020 - 08:38 PM

[End of Disc One]

I've also read just the prologue so far. Looking forward to reading more.

Here's what Sanderson said about his favorite chapters in the book, without spoilers:

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Part One
Favorite chapter in Part One: Chapter Twelve

Most difficult chapter in Part One: Chapter Seven (Getting the foreshadowing and viewpoints right required a lot of revision.)

Part Two
Favorite chapter in Part Two: Chapter Thirty-Four

Most difficult chapter in Part Two: Chapter Twenty-Four (This is one of the new chapters I had to add late in the process, in order to make this viewpoint sequence work.)

Part Three
Favorite chapter in Part Three: Chapter Sixty-Six

Most difficult chapter in Part Three: Chapter Sixty-Seven (This viewpoint character had a lot of revisions through the process to get them right.)

Part Four
Favorite chapter in Part Four: Chapter Eighty (This is actually my favorite chapter in the book.)

Most difficult chapter in Part Four: Chapter Ninety-Three (Probably the single most revised chapter in the novel, and it required a lot of continuity, delicate foreshadowing, and help from beta readers.)

Part Five
Favorite chapters in Part Five: a sequence that starts in 105 and ends in 110. This is actually a central sequence from my very early outlines, which I’ve mentioned I’ve been waiting over a decade now to share with you all.

Most difficult chapter in Part Five: Chapter 105. You’ll see why.

Anyway, hope you enjoy the book!

[QuickTidal]

Part 1 Chapters 1-2

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I don't know why but I find Lirin to be a BIT annoying, but overall this was a nice way to show us the difference in the world after the Fused and Parshendi have control of certain areas.

Kaladin's reveal from cloaked refugee to leaping into the sky to fight that horned fused was cool, if a bit less bombastic than it could have been. That said, the fact that the Fused have adapted to fight Radiants and he kept severing Kal's spine to keep him somewhat incapacitated and using that form of elsecalling to shift around and away from Kal was cool.

Shallan was only mildly annoying with one personality, with three living inside her I find her almost intolerable. I hope I get used to this. I get that Sanderson is showing us a stormlight version MPD, but it's taxing at the best fo times to read Shallan, Brightness, and Veil ALL interact. But just that one section with her was taxing to read.

You know what the best thing about this book is? That it's not breaking my fucking arms and fingers to read it...Ebooks FTW! My light ass kindle makes reading Stormlight SO much less of a chore!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 18 November 2020 - 12:57 PM

[RACHEL]

@BK
Just wondering why you don't use a kindle for your books or order them online. You always talk about how your local bookstore doesn't have what you want or you have to drive to other cities to get books (unless I'm confusing you with someone else). Why not save your time and gas and order them to your house? I am really just curious because the only time I buy a book in person is at a rummage sale or thrift store, otherwise I order them.

[QuickTidal]

Part 1 Chapters 3-5

This book is already better than OB...for starters...

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I gotta say the year time jump to this book from the last one solves SO many possible pacing problems that might have arisen. Being a year later and showing that everything has moved on, ranks of windrunners, edgedancers, ect. being fully in play, and whatnot just makes it so we don't need to spend time watching all that slice of life stuff happen. Genius move on Brandon's part. As a result, the pacing in this right off the bat is perfectly fine and I'm enjoying reading at a pretty good clip.

Shallan/Brightness/Veil chapter where she's basically tying up the loose end of the Sons of Honor (or at least appears to be) is solid.

Dalinar now opening perpendicularities to power squads of his people with starlight like a glowing Green Lantern battery is fucking dope.

Navani's flying barge is fucking dope.

Kaladin VS Leshwi is fucking dope.

Seriously, zero complaints so far. This is very much in the WoK and WoR mode for me over OB mode.

[QuickTidal]

P1 Chapters 6-10

HOLY FUCKING SHIT...holy....fucking...shit...

Spoiler

After Ialai's death and Shallan and Adolin dive into her hidden notebook...there is a list that they think is people's names and IT'S FUCKING COSMERE PLANET NAMES including the Mistborn (Scadrial), Warbreaker (Nalthis), and White Sand (Tal Dain)!

Whatever Gavilar, Sadeas, and the others were up to...it was way bigger than Roshar...it's Cosmere wide!

Are the Ghostbloods Worldhoppers? What the hell is going on?!

I like what's happening with Renarin...whatever is going on with that voidlight spren inside him I'm super interested by....saving Kaladin from Moash doesn't seem conducive to it being evil. I don't think he's a Truthwatcher....I think MAYBE he's able to do what the other Radiants can't do and is somehow channeling a Fused inside him, but is keeping it good? I dunno yet.

LIFT! Even in little bits Lift is the best fucking character. I will never see it any other way.

Who is spanreeding Navani telling her to stop what she's doing? Since it's about trapping Spren for the barge, my guess is Spren from Shadesmar? No idea yet.

Also, Is it possible (and maybe I missed the revelation hints in a previous book but) that the Parshendi are there natural inhabitants of Roshar and humans are invaders from off world? This would make sense with regards to the "humans are voidbringers" revelation from the last novel.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 19 November 2020 - 01:07 PM

[End of Disc One]

QT re your last point, that was one of the big revelations at the end of Oathbringer

I’m on chapter 12 and really enjoying everything about this book. And I struggled to get into OB. Now I have seen reviews say that the book slows down after part 1, but I’ll try to go in with an open mind.

[QuickTidal]

End of Disc One, on 20 November 2020 - 09:44 PM, said:

QT re your last point, that was one of the big revelations at the end of Oathbringer

I’m on chapter 12 and really enjoying everything about this book. And I struggled to get into OB. Now I have seen reviews say that the book slows down after part 1, but I’ll try to go in with an open mind.

I had a feeling I missed that in OB since it’s not really hidden in RoW.