Morgoth, on 20 May 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:
Tattersail_, on 20 May 2019 - 07:59 AM, said:
Morgoth, on 20 May 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:
Tattersail_, on 20 May 2019 - 07:29 AM, said:
Morgoth, on 20 May 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:
Galactic Council, on 19 May 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:
Gnaw, on 19 May 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:
Morgoth, on 18 May 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:
Eurovision is monopolizing my time.
Well. UK got 16 points. Was the guy really that bad or was that Europe's way of telling the U.K. not to let the doorknob hit them in the ass on their way out?
At this point, it's hard to tell. 16 points was actually a pretty decent return considering the past few years of results!
The UK song was terrible! And not the good kind of terrible. It was just bad in a boring way.
My favourite was San Marino. Eurovision distilled and served in liquid form.
Do you like Eurovision? I haven't watched it in years and have so much disdain for it. It is not really a competition were ability matters, or the best country wins. It's all Political. So I know I throw that comment out there without going deeper into it, but as someone from a different country I'd like your take on it and why you like it.
There is a political aspect of it sure, but to argue it's all political is silly. Israel won last year. The Netherlands won this year. Sweden I think, the year before. Where was the politics in those victories I wonder?
Eurovision is spectacular, bombastic, silly fun.
Were those countries the deserved winners? Honestly no idea and only guesses about the politics but it's been a thing over here for years and years. I was wondering if it is seen the same over there.
Who knows what constitutes a deserved winner? It's a music contest, not a sports event. Music is subjective.
Eurovision actually tries painfully hard to be apolitical. Why do you think almost all the songs chosen as the entries are love songs/personal empowerment messages/the occasional hardcore thrash metal?
As Morgoth points out, winners have come from all over the place. What is politics of Netherlands winning this year? Presumably what you’re referring to is the (in)famous tendency of neighbouring countries to give each other maximum points? In reality, this is actually happening less and less, with the only standout example still being Greece and Cyprus. Voting for neighbours may also have been more to do with language similarity, something that has been done away with once everyone was allowed to sing in English if they wanted.
Let’s also take into account that Eurovision voting is done, since 1998, by the public and by a jury of music professionals. So it’s political only in the sense that all democratic voting is political. In the same way that, say, Strictly Come Dancing is political.
Finally, you also equate politicisation as an inherently negative thing. It’s not. Take for example the region I’m from - the Balkans. Considering their history, I don’t see how these countries giving each other max points is a bad thing. It feels like a tiny yet important gesture, the fact that the public wants to acknowledge the efforts of people they were once in conflict with. And neither is it negative to draw publicity to an important political issue, as for instance the Ukraine entry did following the annexation of Crimea.
That’s not to say that Eurovision doesn’t have controversies. I’d rather that it hadn’t staged in Israel this year for example, but hey, they won fair and square last year. Also I swear the songs get worse every single year. I fear that one day they will all cross over the point from good-bad to bad-bad.
This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 20 May 2019 - 12:18 PM
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