[Gnaw]

Nom, when are you thinking of playing Diplomacy?

[Itwæs Nom]

Gnaw, on 16 August 2018 - 01:57 AM, said:

Nom, when are you thinking of playing Diplomacy?

What's it worth to you?

[Gnaw]

Itwæs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 02:42 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 August 2018 - 01:57 AM, said:

Nom, when are you thinking of playing Diplomacy?

What's it worth to you?

Well, if you play this turn, I'll play Leadership. Otherwise, I'll play an action card and hold off on Leadership until the next turn. That will cost me a couple of secondaries I'd like to get but nothing I'll lose sleep over. It would cost you technology though.
But to sweeten the pot I’ll give you 1Tg.

[Hugin & Munin]

Map updated through D'rek's turn.

[D'rek]

Hugin & Munin, on 16 August 2018 - 03:22 AM, said:

Map updated through D'rek's turn.

No. Like I said further up in this thread, I'm waiting to see how Morgoth adjusts his build before taking my turn (I have no idea why he posted a reaction to it but didn't post the adjustment). The SC provisional was only for if no one attacked me (which the PM did indicate, albeit I didn't expect Morgoth to be the one).

And since there won't be an update before I go to bed, sorry for inevitably holding up the game while I am asleep...

[Itwæs Nom]

Gnaw, on 16 August 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 02:42 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 August 2018 - 01:57 AM, said:

Nom, when are you thinking of playing Diplomacy?

What's it worth to you?

Well, if you play this turn, I'll play Leadership. Otherwise, I'll play an action card and hold off on Leadership until the next turn. That will cost me a couple of secondaries I'd like to get but nothing I'll lose sleep over. It would cost you technology though.
But to sweeten the pot I’ll give you 1Tg.

I can get behind that aye

[Morgoth]

Sorry guys, i sent my update to Blend since i cant update the post myself, but i wrote something wrong. Tired I guess.

[Morgoth]

At any rate, I’m building a dread and 4 fighters

[Morgoth]

D’rek, I have no particular interest in your other systems. I’m happy where I am. My position is much more flexible now, and that’s what I wanted. It’s not a particularly valuable system I took, and you have many other fleets around you.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

At any rate, I'm building a dread and 4 fighters

If she exhausts your home planet that leaves you with 5 resources so with Sarween tools that should be okay.

I don't understand how you think D'rek will let your roots grow in that area? I assumed you'd want to pay me a visit and have been planning that for some time until I built my dreads, and you're probably waiting until actions go in against Twelve that may leave me vulnerable but I am not going to leave myself unprotected. D'rek should just squash you from that system and this side of the board as it took you numerous actions just to get here.

[Imperial Historian]

Khell how does your capacity work for that build?

By my count you have 13 capacity (6 from floating factory, 4 from carrier 3 from dreads) but you have 15 units 9 fighters 6 infantry.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 16 August 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

Khell how does your capacity work for that build?

By my count you have 13 capacity (6 from floating factory, 4 from carrier 3 from dreads) but you have 15 units 9 fighters 6 infantry.

Only 7 fighters show on map

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

At any rate, I'm building a dread and 4 fighters

If she exhausts your home planet that leaves you with 5 resources so with Sarween tools that should be okay.

I don't understand how you think D'rek will let your roots grow in that area? I assumed you'd want to pay me a visit and have been planning that for some time until I built my dreads, and you're probably waiting until actions go in against Twelve that may leave me vulnerable but I am not going to leave myself unprotected. D'rek should just squash you from that system and this side of the board as it took you numerous actions just to get here.

She can't really just squash me from the system as it is. My fleet is slightly stronger than whatever she can bring to the battle right now, and then there's action cards. Who knows what we hold in our hands. Sure she can build more and then attack me, but that will take time and resources and leave her awfully exposed. I consider it an acceptable risk. If I do end up losing it's not a big deal for me, though annoying for sure. I don't like being confined to my little corner. If D'rek loses though it is a catastrophe for her.

As I said before, I want flexibility. I am as always an avowed opportunist, and so I like to place myself in a position where I am able to grasp opportunities when they present themselves. Arnor-Lor, far away from my own systems while at the same time being very close to the center, is ideal for me. I don't have any particular plan to utilize the system for anything more than it's resources as of now. But who knows what offers the galaxy will give me, hm?

If you compare that to say Silvano. Silvano is a good planet, but it gives me no added flexibility, and it borders Nom's homeworld so I doubt he'd ever let me hold it, no matter how many battles I'd theoretically win. Vefut is the same. New Albion-Starpoint was the best system by far, in isolation, but what could I do what that position? I'd be forced to spend the rest of the game defending myself from D'rek, which would be a losing proposition in the long run, both for D'rek and I in the amount of resources we'd have to spend, but also in how it would free Tapper, Khell and you from the threat of her presence in the center.

[Tattersail_]

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

At any rate, I'm building a dread and 4 fighters

If she exhausts your home planet that leaves you with 5 resources so with Sarween tools that should be okay.

I don't understand how you think D'rek will let your roots grow in that area? I assumed you'd want to pay me a visit and have been planning that for some time until I built my dreads, and you're probably waiting until actions go in against Twelve that may leave me vulnerable but I am not going to leave myself unprotected. D'rek should just squash you from that system and this side of the board as it took you numerous actions just to get here.

She can't really just squash me from the system as it is. My fleet is slightly stronger than whatever she can bring to the battle right now, and then there's action cards. Who knows what we hold in our hands. Sure she can build more and then attack me, but that will take time and resources and leave her awfully exposed. I consider it an acceptable risk. If I do end up losing it's not a big deal for me, though annoying for sure. I don't like being confined to my little corner. If D'rek loses though it is a catastrophe for her.

As I said before, I want flexibility. I am as always an avowed opportunist, and so I like to place myself in a position where I am able to grasp opportunities when they present themselves. Arnor-Lor, far away from my own systems while at the same time being very close to the center, is ideal for me. I don't have any particular plan to utilize the system for anything more than it's resources as of now. But who knows what offers the galaxy will give me, hm?

If you compare that to say Silvano. Silvano is a good planet, but it gives me no added flexibility, and it borders Nom's homeworld so I doubt he'd ever let me hold it, no matter how many battles I'd theoretically win. Vefut is the same. New Albion-Starpoint was the best system by far, in isolation, but what could I do what that position? I'd be forced to spend the rest of the game defending myself from D'rek, which would be a losing proposition in the long run, both for D'rek and I in the amount of resources we'd have to spend, but also in how it would free Tapper, Khell and you from the threat of her presence in the center.

So you expect her to listen to what you say about not moving on but in the same paragraph mention how nice New Albion/Starpoint looks but isn't in a good map position? Plants need room to grow don't they?

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

At any rate, I'm building a dread and 4 fighters

If she exhausts your home planet that leaves you with 5 resources so with Sarween tools that should be okay.

I don't understand how you think D'rek will let your roots grow in that area? I assumed you'd want to pay me a visit and have been planning that for some time until I built my dreads, and you're probably waiting until actions go in against Twelve that may leave me vulnerable but I am not going to leave myself unprotected. D'rek should just squash you from that system and this side of the board as it took you numerous actions just to get here.

She can't really just squash me from the system as it is. My fleet is slightly stronger than whatever she can bring to the battle right now, and then there's action cards. Who knows what we hold in our hands. Sure she can build more and then attack me, but that will take time and resources and leave her awfully exposed. I consider it an acceptable risk. If I do end up losing it's not a big deal for me, though annoying for sure. I don't like being confined to my little corner. If D'rek loses though it is a catastrophe for her.

As I said before, I want flexibility. I am as always an avowed opportunist, and so I like to place myself in a position where I am able to grasp opportunities when they present themselves. Arnor-Lor, far away from my own systems while at the same time being very close to the center, is ideal for me. I don't have any particular plan to utilize the system for anything more than it's resources as of now. But who knows what offers the galaxy will give me, hm?

If you compare that to say Silvano. Silvano is a good planet, but it gives me no added flexibility, and it borders Nom's homeworld so I doubt he'd ever let me hold it, no matter how many battles I'd theoretically win. Vefut is the same. New Albion-Starpoint was the best system by far, in isolation, but what could I do what that position? I'd be forced to spend the rest of the game defending myself from D'rek, which would be a losing proposition in the long run, both for D'rek and I in the amount of resources we'd have to spend, but also in how it would free Tapper, Khell and you from the threat of her presence in the center.

So you expect her to listen to what you say about not moving on but in the same paragraph mention how nice New Albion/Starpoint looks but isn't in a good map position? Plants need room to grow don't they?

I would think she recognizes my arguments for not wanting to take it as sound. Besides, my ships are sloooooooow.

[Morgoth]

And to be fair, I'd think she'd be more worried about your fleet than mine in that regard.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

And to be fair, I'd think she'd be more worried about your fleet than mine in that regard.

My fleet is right next to those systems but I have resources, I need influence. Our relationship has been sound.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 16 August 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

Khell how does your capacity work for that build?

By my count you have 13 capacity (6 from floating factory, 4 from carrier 3 from dreads) but you have 15 units 9 fighters 6 infantry.

I have 10 from floating factory (5 from each as they are upgraded), 4 from Carrier, 3 from Dreads.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.

I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.