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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:13 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 06:04 AM, said:

At any rate, I’m building a dread and 4 fighters


Specificity: exhausting Zohbat + Qucen'n + Xxehan for 5 resources (+ST) to build 1 dread and 4 fighters?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:24 PM

Sigh, not enough CTs no matter how I parse it. Guess I am playing IMPERIAL after all.

Tapper, do me a solid and wait 1 more before playing CONSTRUCTION?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:31 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.

Tatts and Gnaw apparently don't care about that. They just want to eliminate someone.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:36 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.


If Gnaw, D'rek and I decided to I am sure we could remove you from the game too, in short order. But all out war is rarely if ever a good catalyst for gaining points, and all we'd achieve in the long run would be to hand the victory to one of the other players.

Take a look at your and Gnaws attack on twelve for instance. It's a long drawn out process that costs valuable tokens and resources, when those could have been much better spent elsewhere. Gnaw for instance could simply have bunkered up in Arinam Meer and there'd be little twelve could have done about it. Instead he'd be forced to expand towards you while Gnaw could have spent his time strengthening his own holdings or moving further towards the center. Gnaw would have been in a better position, and you'd be in a worse one. Win win for him.

This isn't a war game. Not really. It's a game of diplomacy where small tactical strikes to claim specific goals is the key. You can easily play an entire game without a single battle and still win. Unless you're the Nekro of course.

I told Gnaw that he killed both of our games by taking Everra. Clearly he isn't interested in playing to win.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:45 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.


Yeah, Gnaw forgot to place a CT in the Lodor system
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.


So is Tapper's. Border friction starts next round. Even with Nom coming to MR (which I fully expect, especially since he has Experimental Battlestation; it's his best way to keep a VP lead), Nom taking a bunch of casualties in MR and being focused on defending+rebuilding there is far better for Tapper than Nom taking MR easily and then after that looking to spend his resources expanding elsewhere.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:25 PM

Let us discuss speaker token as it is going to happen on my next turn.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:26 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


I am likely not D'reks target to begin with. Yeah, her dreads are infantry killers so she cancels my (and your) strong point, but my planets are not that great and are seperated from her core hexes.
She's essentially better off by protecting Gwynan and Tula Nora than by taking a handful of my systems: Lodor seemed the best destination for her up until Itwaes' latest build.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:34 PM

Whatever happened to Bliss? Sorry, you're great too Nom!
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:35 PM

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.


So is Tapper's. Border friction starts next round. Even with Nom coming to MR (which I fully expect, especially since he has Experimental Battlestation; it's his best way to keep a VP lead), Nom taking a bunch of casualties in MR and being focused on defending+rebuilding there is far better for Tapper than Nom taking MR easily and then after that looking to spend his resources expanding elsewhere.


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:37 PM

View PostTapper, on 16 August 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.


So is Tapper's. Border friction starts next round. Even with Nom coming to MR (which I fully expect, especially since he has Experimental Battlestation; it's his best way to keep a VP lead), Nom taking a bunch of casualties in MR and being focused on defending+rebuilding there is far better for Tapper than Nom taking MR easily and then after that looking to spend his resources expanding elsewhere.


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:42 PM

The map is hosed. Fixing it.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:45 PM

View PostHugin & Munin, on 16 August 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

The map is hosed. Fixing it.

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:52 PM

Gnaw it's your turn by the way. Do that first then fix the map.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:54 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 August 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostD, on 16 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

If you do play construction this turn though Tapper, D’rek will have me to one side, making it harder to focus her fleet on you.


Tapper and I have an established peace and I am more than a little busy with other players. Besides, a post-T2 construction will make Nom suffer more casualties taking MR, which is good for Tapper.


Noms fleet is already activated I thought.


So is Tapper's. Border friction starts next round. Even with Nom coming to MR (which I fully expect, especially since he has Experimental Battlestation; it's his best way to keep a VP lead), Nom taking a bunch of casualties in MR and being focused on defending+rebuilding there is far better for Tapper than Nom taking MR easily and then after that looking to spend his resources expanding elsewhere.


*ping* Need frictionless borders? No rashes, no stray hairs? Buy Solarian Shave. Even the Saar swear by it. *ping*


We did it because it was trendy and all our peers were pressuring us to do it. But it was just a big hassle, it *did* itch, and we ended up looking like Saar cubs.

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 03:01 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 16 August 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

Khell how does your capacity work for that build?

By my count you have 13 capacity (6 from floating factory, 4 from carrier 3 from dreads) but you have 15 units 9 fighters 6 infantry.


Only 7 fighters show on map


What map? *whistles*
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 03:05 PM

Tapper 6Tg's plus your racial :p for speaker token. I doubt you'll agree.

At the moment I am torn between IH and D'rek.

I'd say, like Gnaw said that we'd get the strategy card we want.

Gnaw already claimed Technology, so for me it'd be Warfare.
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