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#2121 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 08:49 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.


Are you going to fund said elimination Tatts?
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 09:00 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 16 August 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.


Are you going to fund said elimination Tatts?


What are you thinking?

If enough people think we could make it so then those not attacking could offer reparations for those who are.

You were thinking of attacking Khell regardless so what would you want?

If it was workable I'd be down anyway
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.


If Gnaw, D'rek and I decided to I am sure we could remove you from the game too, in short order. But all out war is rarely if ever a good catalyst for gaining points, and all we'd achieve in the long run would be to hand the victory to one of the other players.

Take a look at your and Gnaws attack on twelve for instance. It's a long drawn out process that costs valuable tokens and resources, when those could have been much better spent elsewhere. Gnaw for instance could simply have bunkered up in Arinam Meer and there'd be little twelve could have done about it. Instead he'd be forced to expand towards you while Gnaw could have spent his time strengthening his own holdings or moving further towards the center. Gnaw would have been in a better position, and you'd be in a worse one. Win win for him.

This isn't a war game. Not really. It's a game of diplomacy where small tactical strikes to claim specific goals is the key. You can easily play an entire game without a single battle and still win. Unless you're the Nekro of course.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 09:58 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.


I would say that half the Galaxy doesn't care about me anymore, and has more important things to be getting tangled up in. Also, hello, not-anywhere-near-points-leader over here.


Ha ha ha, I knew you'd respond. It's possible though isn't it. I think the opportunity is there for the taking but doubt it'd happen.


If Gnaw, D'rek and I decided to I am sure we could remove you from the game too, in short order. But all out war is rarely if ever a good catalyst for gaining points, and all we'd achieve in the long run would be to hand the victory to one of the other players.

Take a look at your and Gnaws attack on twelve for instance. It's a long drawn out process that costs valuable tokens and resources, when those could have been much better spent elsewhere. Gnaw for instance could simply have bunkered up in Arinam Meer and there'd be little twelve could have done about it. Instead he'd be forced to expand towards you while Gnaw could have spent his time strengthening his own holdings or moving further towards the center. Gnaw would have been in a better position, and you'd be in a worse one. Win win for him.

This isn't a war game. Not really. It's a game of diplomacy where small tactical strikes to claim specific goals is the key. You can easily play an entire game without a single battle and still win. Unless you're the Nekro of course.


Case in point the Yssaril last game.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:15 AM

And there's no real sense trying to chase the joker in the pack around the map with the intention of elimination. I have not been competent enough to play the Saar well and have missed out already on a number of POs I could have gained earlier with more savvy play. I might prove an irritant to you, but I won't be winning or stop anyone else from winning this game.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:39 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 August 2018 - 10:15 AM, said:

And there's no real sense trying to chase the joker in the pack around the map with the intention of elimination. I have not been competent enough to play the Saar well and have missed out already on a number of POs I could have gained earlier with more savvy play. I might prove an irritant to you, but I won't be winning or stop anyone else from winning this game.


If I was playing the Yin would chase your furball of doom around the map with my flagship, just for fun of it. Alas, I am a plant and must remain mostly stationary.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:12 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.

You already see how hard it is to kill Twelve. This would mean that multiple players have to accept significant losses and dedicate quite actions while others won't: quite a few of whom you point at, are also at odds with one another (Nom for example seems to be building a Mecatol-bound fleet, Gnaw just treated with Khell and instead might want to keep pressure on Twelve).

The only way I see this happen is if someone (cough*you*cough) is going to bankroll another player to go all out against Khell, whether it is in their interest or not: paying in TG for lost ships and for CTs used on Tacticals, et cetera. That could in turn snowball into others taking opportunistic potshots at Khell for lowhanging fruit (Nom with those two planets, for example). But even so, Khell could just hang out in an Asteroid field.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:17 AM

View PostTapper, on 16 August 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 16 August 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

Quick question, what happens if Gnaw and IH killed Khell's fleet completely, D'rek Kills all infantry on Bereg and Nom takes out the two infantry near his systems?

Is it possible, is it possible we could take Khell out completely?

Or just a pipe dream?

He's threatened half the galaxy and will only get stronger as the game goes on. This could be an opportunity.

You already see how hard it is to kill Twelve. This would mean that multiple players have to accept significant losses and dedicate quite actions while others won't: quite a few of whom you point at, are also at odds with one another (Nom for example seems to be building a Mecatol-bound fleet, Gnaw just treated with Khell and instead might want to keep pressure on Twelve).

The only way I see this happen is if someone (cough*you*cough) is going to bankroll another player to go all out against Khell, whether it is in their interest or not: paying in TG for lost ships and for CTs used on Tacticals, et cetera. That could in turn snowball into others taking opportunistic potshots at Khell for lowhanging fruit (Nom with those two planets, for example). But even so, Khell could just hang out in an Asteroid field.


All true. It seemed that IH was on a collision course with Khell after what happened in Bereg, Khell further killed lots of Ghosts. That's what made me look at what could happen. As Morgoth says anyone could theoretically be eradicated by multiple people but the execution is far from probable. I doubt D'rek would want to attack Bereg for example when Morgoth just took a system off her and like you said, Nom looks like he may want Rex.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:25 AM

Every player should want Rex. Some just have a better chance of taking it than others.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:38 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

Every player should want Rex. Some just have a better chance of taking it than others.

And those who can take it, also need to hold it for at least a Status Phase/ refresh.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:55 AM

@IH we're trading 2:2 no pill right?

I don't recall saying I wouldn't pillage you long-term at all so if you think I did agree to it then feel free to bring the quote up
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:01 PM

Am I the only one for who Gnaw's maps refuse to load in full resolution on phone? Doesnt happen on desktop
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:05 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Am I the only one for who Gnaw's maps refuse to load in full resolution on phone? Doesnt happen on desktop

Not an answer to your question, but on mobile I generally open the picture in a new tab, so that I can zoom.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:12 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Am I the only one for who Gnaw's maps refuse to load in full resolution on phone? Doesnt happen on desktop


It's fine on my phone.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

View PostTapper, on 16 August 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Am I the only one for who Gnaw's maps refuse to load in full resolution on phone? Doesnt happen on desktop

Not an answer to your question, but on mobile I generally open the picture in a new tab, so that I can zoom.


I do the same, problem is the picture that loads is 640x620, stays the same res even when I download it, guess I'll have to try to get the imgur app to open it in *shrug*
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:18 PM

@Gnaw I think a CT of mine is supposed to be lying in the Lodor system?
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:27 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 16 August 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

@IH we're trading 2:2 no pill right?

I don't recall saying I wouldn't pillage you long-term at all so if you think I did agree to it then feel free to bring the quote up


No we don't have a long term no pillage agreement. Each round we have agreed a deal similar to the one this round where you don't pillage me. We have agreed to a 2:2 trade and no pillage this round.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:34 PM

IH, I assume you'll cash in my trade PN this round, yes?
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:39 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 August 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

IH, I assume you'll cash in my trade PN this round, yes?


Yes
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