[Nevyn]

Just in case I missed something in scrolling, do we have a proposed gov't yet, or still waiting on Mess?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 23 February 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 23 February 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Instead of us going in circle's, why don't you outline who you think is fascist? I'm a given yes, who else? Be interesting to see.

You + Cause + ItNom.

I don't like Nevyn's play, but I can't fit his actions to fascist so feeling pseudo-confident in PI-ing him. Which basically leaves the other 5 of us as me + 2 VPI + 2 PI. Honestly, I feel like the game is practically "solved" at this point in my view, barring repeated horrible card draws.

So you think Nevyn is Liberal and is LYING about Cause ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Tattersail_]

Thank you D'rek, you are the gift that keeps on giving. Please everyone refer to D'rek's possible Fascists, she's full of shit.

[Cause]

Nevyn is fascist. Nom is Liberal.

Im actually at a loss between Drek and Tatts. They are neither committing to believing Nevyn completely nor believing me innocent and they are both attacking each other aggressively. Obviously one is trying to sell the lie he is a liberal but they are both being so aggressive I cant decide which I trust.

Obviously no one trusted me before and no one trusts me now. Ill point out though Tatts kept advocating for Nevyn to do the find on her and he instead went with me. Nevyn is fascist and so might have not wanted to expose Tats and instead painted me as fascists, which tatts has been setting up nicely by calling me a potential Hitler for the last 3 pages or so. So was tats signalling Nevyn? Best way to hide the real Hitler is to paint someone else. Worst outcome for the liberal side would even be if we assassinate a liberal player. Lose the voting advantage

So we appear to be

Nevyn/Nom 50% (I know its Nevyn)

Tatts/Drek 50%

Cause 50%

We can be safe in knowing that at least one in each pairing is a fascist.

So with least suspicion is Dolmen, Messremb, Vengeance. Unless the third fascist is also hiding in one of the pairs (a strategy I still think would be viable and brilliant) I also have to believe that you are all 33% fascist. I feel like we all trust messremb since he passed a liberal very early in the game but he also seems to be hiding in the background. I dont remember him saying much anyway.

Nevyn has been the most experienced player in this game from the start and his being a fascist means I need to relook over what he has being saying from the beginning. He would know how to signal his team and what strategies to employ. I already see his voting no to all the early governments in a new light.

[Nevyn]

Lol @ you being "50%" . You were above 50% before I investigated you. Thats why I investigated you.

[Dolmen 2.0]

Messremb could you kindly propose a govt.

[Vengeance]

Honestly can we move this train along. We are getting one or two governments a week. At this rate we will be wrapping up in May.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 23 February 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 23 February 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Instead of us going in circle's, why don't you outline who you think is fascist? I'm a given yes, who else? Be interesting to see.

You + Cause + ItNom.

I don't like Nevyn's play, but I can't fit his actions to fascist so feeling pseudo-confident in PI-ing him. Which basically leaves the other 5 of us as me + 2 VPI + 2 PI. Honestly, I feel like the game is practically "solved" at this point in my view, barring repeated horrible card draws.

So you think Nevyn is Liberal and is LYING about Cause ha ha ha ha ha ha

What lie?

I think Cause is a fascist.

Nevyn did a Find on Cause and said he was a fasicst.

What is the lie that you think I think Nevyn is saying?

[Cause]

Vengeance, on 23 February 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

Honestly can we move this train along. We are getting one or two governments a week. At this rate we will be wrapping up in May.

Maybe make a schedule? Have votes in by X time? Results posted by time Y.

dont have to be strict but gives people an idea of whats expected? I suppose it will be up to Macross to decide

[Messremb]

Vengeance, on 23 February 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

Honestly can we move this train along. We are getting one or two governments a week. At this rate we will be wrapping up in May.

But it is so much fun watching Tatts and D'rek at each other.


Venge, you're my Chancellor.

[Messremb]

Also if I'd have realised the Find was a one-off I'd have wanted Nevyn to not use it and to pass it on - what point was served by an untrustworthy person making a claim

[Cause]

Messremb, on 23 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Also if I'd have realised the Find was a one-off I'd have wanted Nevyn to not use it and to pass it on - what point was served by an untrustworthy person making a claim

It's a once off but it had to be used the turn we got it. It's the reason that a fascist would want to control it. He could use it to sow confusion

[Nevyn]

Messremb, on 23 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Also if I'd have realised the Find was a one-off I'd have wanted Nevyn to not use it and to pass it on - what point was served by an untrustworthy person making a claim

What is the difference between no investigation and an investigation whose result you ignore?

[Messremb]

Nevyn, on 23 February 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

Messremb, on 23 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Also if I'd have realised the Find was a one-off I'd have wanted Nevyn to not use it and to pass it on - what point was served by an untrustworthy person making a claim

What is the difference between no investigation and an investigation whose result you ignore?

No investigation means no chance for you to further whatever agenda you have.

[Dolmen 2.0]

Messremb, on 23 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Also if I'd have realised the Find was a one-off I'd have wanted Nevyn to not use it and to pass it on - what point was served by an untrustworthy person making a claim

See Maccy told me when I asked about powers that the next president would be able to use powers if a fascist policy got played. Seems I misunderstood. I thought this meant the next player gets to act the policy if our term acted one up.

What he meant was that the first fascist policy would not have an ability, the second would. Had I understood this was what he meant I also would have preferred you as pres rather than holding your term off as a deterrent to fascists.

I still think it's good we got to know Nevyn/Nom was up to no good. Venge, you and me might not be enough to win the game? as 'evenly' spaced on the list as we are, we still benefit from figuring atleast one more Pi from the group.

[Nevyn]

The 3 of you are easily enough to win the game.


As to misunderstanding timing of powers, I tried to clarify for you more than once, including this before the vote on my government

Nevyn, on 21 February 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

The president who enacts the policy gets the power. Although every fascist policy for the rest of the game comes with a power

This post has been edited by Nevyn: 23 February 2018 - 07:26 PM

[Dolmen 2.0]

Nevyn, on 23 February 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

The 3 of you are easily enough to win the game.


As to misunderstanding timing of powers, I tried to clarify for you more than once, including this before the vote on my government

Nevyn, on 21 February 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

The president who enacts the policy gets the power. Although every fascist policy for the rest of the game comes with a power

yes, I did read that and asked Maccy to clarify.

the problem is how easy that was to miss in the storm of other content so whilst I may have gone back to check I'm sure some of the players were still acting with that misinterpretation affecting decisions.

Ok say it's just Venge, Mess and me up to cycle in govt.

How does that play out considering the whole term-limited rule?

[Nevyn]

Have we started the voting on Messremb's government? Because he already messed it up.


Next chancellor is term limited. But not next president.

[Messremb]

Dolmen 2.0, on 23 February 2018 - 07:50 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 23 February 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

The 3 of you are easily enough to win the game.


As to misunderstanding timing of powers, I tried to clarify for you more than once, including this before the vote on my government

Nevyn, on 21 February 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

The president who enacts the policy gets the power. Although every fascist policy for the rest of the game comes with a power

yes, I did read that and asked Maccy to clarify.

the problem is how easy that was to miss in the storm of other content so whilst I may have gone back to check I'm sure some of the players were still acting with that misinterpretation affecting decisions.

Ok say it's just Venge, Mess and me up to cycle in govt.

How does that play out considering the whole term-limited rule?

Need a 4th I think.

Of course we're all also the best people to be Hitler.

[Messremb]

Nevyn, on 23 February 2018 - 08:08 PM, said:

Have we started the voting on Messremb's government? Because he already messed it up.


Next chancellor is term limited. But not next president.

How so?