[QuickTidal]

I know Costner has an SA past (Scotland Hotel masseuse story)....but this just proves he's not learned a damned thing in all the years since then...fucking hell.

https://www.hollywoo...ene-1236231181/

[QuickTidal]

Diddy was just acquitted of everything.

I'm genuinely fucking shocked. Hollywood is cooked man. Coooooooooked.

EDIT: Well almost everything. Still. I think he got stuck on two prostitution charges, which could carry 20 years, but I doubt it will result in that.

More proof that if you are powerful enough and rich enough you can get away with whatever you like. My gods.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 02 July 2025 - 02:45 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

QuickTidal, on 02 July 2025 - 02:41 PM, said:

Diddy was just acquitted of everything.

I'm genuinely fucking shocked. Hollywood is cooked man. Coooooooooked.

EDIT: Well almost everything. Still. I think he got stuck on two prostitution charges, which could carry 20 years, but I doubt it will result in that.

More proof that if you are powerful enough and rich enough you can get away with whatever you like. My gods.

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How Diddy Reacted as Verdict Was Read in Court



[...] Combs' family is prepared to sign the bond for his release, after which he could be free to leave and return to his Star Island home in Florida. Combs' lawyer Marc Agnofilo proposed a million dollar bond with permitted travel to Florida, New York, and L.A.

https://www.thedaily...-read-in-court/

Estimated net worth $400 million... wonder if that'll be enough for him to flee the country.

Or buy a pardon from Trump---since he was convicted on federal charges.

Can sell it to Trump as pandering to Black folks---or at least Trump-curious Black men. Maybe offer to do a rap song about how wonderful Trump is. "Will perform at next inauguration in exchange for not spending the next 20 years in prison or hiding out in Russia or North Korea".

[Tsundoku]

And the front page headline on one of our Murdoch sites: "Diddy Gets Off".

If that was deliberate, well done.

EDIT: I wonder how he's going to celebrate?
I can just see tomorrow's headlines: "NYC runs out of baby oil and cocaine"

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[worry]

He was denied bail. Dunno if that's a sign of what's to come, but the judge cited "disregard for the rule of law and a propensity of violence" in his reasoning.

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[Tsundoku]

So is California charging him with state-level stuff like the DV etc?
Or did that occur in NY? I have NFI what occurred where and can be charged at what level.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 03 July 2025 - 10:12 AM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Tsundoku, on 03 July 2025 - 10:11 AM, said:

So is California charging him with state-level stuff like the DV etc?
Or did that occur in NY? I have NFI what occurred where and can be charged at what level.

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The Independent spoke to several attorneys about what else, if anything, Combs can be tried for – and whether the charges could be federal or state, criminal or civil.

"Is it possible? Yes. Practically speaking, it is not going to happen," Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told The Independent. Rahmani pointed out that both state and federal governments – the charging bodies – are "dual sovereigns" and so to have overlapping prosecutions is "very rare."

"If you've been acquitted by another jury in another jurisdiction, prosecutors do not like to lose, and to bring a subsequent prosecution when it's already been acquitted, that case would locally be a loser then I can't see anyone thinking about doing that,"

[...] While criminal charges of domestic violence and assault are still a possibility, Rahmani says, the statute of limitations in California is only five years, meaning that Combs now sits outside it – unless there are newer allegations.

There is some possibility of bringing charges such as rape or sexual assault, as such counts carry a longer statute of 10 years, but this is also unlikely.

https://www.the-inde...s-b2778543.html

On the federal trial:

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The verdict is not particularly surprising: Throughout the trial, the government has struggled to definitively prove some of the more complex criminal charges—namely the RICO charge, which seemed to require more evidence than the prosecution had in this particular case. The transportation charges on which Combs was found guilty were the most definitively proven in court, while the trafficking charges lay somewhere in between. In the end, the jury—composed of eight men and only four women—needed to decide which witnesses they found to be more credible, essentially making the case one less of evidence and more "he said, she said."

[....] the foundation of the entire defense was to frame the case as a witch hunt against a successful Black entrepreneur who has supported many people with his legal, and even awe-inspiring, businesses.

[...] Not all crimes are strongly evidential. Some understandings rely on making inferences. This one relied on believing women testifying to a complex, exploitative relationship that was always going to be hard to prove on paper. After the verdict was read, Combs reportedly thanked the jury and "prompted the gallery to clap and cheer."

What was the gallery cheering for?

https://slate.com/cu...rafficking.html

Trump has already said he'll consider pardoning Diddy if asked to, and that he "would certainly look at the facts" (most notably how much $Trumpcoin Diddy is willing to pay him...).

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weeks before the Diddy verdict [...] Trump said he was open to helping out the man he once called a "good friend."

[Trump:] "[...] I haven't spoken to him in years. He used to really like me a lot, but I think when I ran for politics he sort of, that relationship busted up from what I read. I don't know. He didn't tell me that, but I'd read some nasty statements in the paper all of a sudden.

… So, I don't know. I would certainly look at the facts. if I think somebody was mistreated, whether they like me or don't like me it wouldn't have any impact."

https://nymag.com/in...al-updates.html

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[QuickTidal]

In a world where Bill Cosby is retired and at home living his life, Kevin Spacey is on a comeback tour, Louis CK and Chris Brown sell out their tours, a 34x felon and adjudicated rapist who was impeached twice was not just allowed to get away with it, but is back in one of the biggest positions of power in the world...I don't know that any of us should be surprised by this outcome.

[QuickTidal]

QuickTidal, on 02 June 2023 - 01:09 PM, said:

Primateus, on 02 June 2023 - 11:51 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 02 June 2023 - 11:28 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 02 June 2023 - 08:20 AM, said:

I see Danny Masterson has been convicted two out of three counts of rape. Good. Screw you and screw Scientology for helping to cover it up.

Yep. Glad they got him. Honestly, Scientology has a lawyer stable many people deep but I expect they are all busy trying to keep dear leader from being thrown into jail for breaking the law and then hiding from the law....to bother with much effort defending a small potatoes like has-been actor Masterson.

Speaking of the "Dear Leader", I wonder where Shelly is?

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

She is either:

1. Dead.

Or

2. Being held against her will in some compound somewhere.

Because If she was as "fine and dandy" as the police wellness check say she is (the PD in that county has been known to be in cahoots with the Scientologists) then the EASIEST thing to do to kill this rumour and "Where is Shelly Miscavige?" is to have her appear in a public video saying "I'm fine, I want to be here and all is well"....this would have the pronged affect for Scientology as a whole of also going a long way yo discrediting people like Leah Remini and Mike Rinder both of whom are a thorn in the Cults side whose whole crusade against their former cult is based around the whereabouts of Shelly.

So the ONLY logical reasons you would not WANT to do that from Scientology's angle....would be becuase she's dead or being held against her will in some Sea Org hole somewhere.

Like it could NOT be easier to debunk the biggest thorn in their side....but they won't, and I the they know why.

I personally think she's dead (whether by her own hand, by someone else, or misadventure) and that's a BIG part of the reason that Miscavige has gone to ground in recent years. He was always kind of elusive, but he's never been "unfindable".

So it turns out that neither of these summations is accurate and instead that Shelly is alive, fine and has now been referred to by Jenna Miscavige (ex-Scinetologist and niece to David and Shelly) as the "Ghislaine Maxwell to David's Jeffrey Epstein" and that she's always been just as awful as David and has done the same horrible things to those around her.

So that's a bombshell. I think we were all operating on the notion that Leah Remini peddled for there last decade or more that her "friend" was a victim and missing...when it turns out she's just a terrible human being and is still in the cult doing nasty things for the cult.

[Maark Abbott]

Old singer from Lostprophets who turned out to be a giga nonce has been done in prison.

Can't really say I'm surprised tbh.

[Tiste Simeon]

 Maark Abbott, on 11 October 2025 - 06:01 PM, said:

Old singer from Lostprophets who turned out to be a giga nonce has been done in prison.

Can't really say I'm surprised tbh.

I highly do NOT recommend reading the details of his offending. Truly, some of the most evil & twisted stuff. Society is infinitely better off without him.

All that said, Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja is still a banger haha

This post has been edited by Tiste Simeon: 11 October 2025 - 08:53 PM

[Maark Abbott]

Tiste Simeon, on 11 October 2025 - 06:34 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 October 2025 - 06:01 PM, said:

Old singer from Lostprophets who turned out to be a giga nonce has been done in prison.

Can't really say I'm surprised tbh.

I highly do not recommend reading the details of his offending. Truly, some of the most evil & twisted stuff. Society is infinitely better off without him.

All that said, Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja is still a banger haha

I misread this at first as "highly do recommend" and I am glad I read again because I'd gipped in my mouth a little bit. But yes, do not read the case details, they are turbo fucked.

[Tiste Simeon]

 Maark Abbott, on 11 October 2025 - 07:25 PM, said:

 Tiste Simeon, on 11 October 2025 - 06:34 PM, said:

 Maark Abbott, on 11 October 2025 - 06:01 PM, said:

Old singer from Lostprophets who turned out to be a giga nonce has been done in prison.

Can't really say I'm surprised tbh.

I highly do not recommend reading the details of his offending. Truly, some of the most evil & twisted stuff. Society is infinitely better off without him.

All that said, Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja is still a banger haha

I misread this at first as "highly do recommend" and I am glad I read again because I'd gipped in my mouth a little bit. But yes, do not read the case details, they are turbo fucked.

Hah whoops I've made it a bit more obvious!

[Macros]

Honestly surprised he lasted that long.

Horrible bastard

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Tiste Simeon, on 11 October 2025 - 06:34 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 October 2025 - 06:01 PM, said:

Old singer from Lostprophets who turned out to be a giga nonce has been done in prison.

Can't really say I'm surprised tbh.

I highly do NOT recommend reading the details of his offending. Truly, some of the most evil & twisted stuff. Society is infinitely better off without him.

All that said, Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja is still a banger haha

Reminds me of a passage from Les Particules élémentaires that's so horrible I felt an overwhelming urge to vomit and shit, and felt like I was on the verge of passing out (in my train seat)... not "attempted rape of a baby", but a rock star---or bassist at least---

Spoiler

cutting out a baby's eye and then fucking the socket. And he didn't even have the decency to give the baby crystal meth first!

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[The former Lostprophets vocalist] was previously attacked in prison in August 2023, but his injuries were not life threatening.

The attack at Wakefield Prison comes less than two weeks after a report into the facility was published that found violence there had "increased markedly".

The report from the chief inspector of prisons said: "Many prisoners told us they felt unsafe, particularly older men convicted of sexual offences who increasingly shared the prison with a growing cohort of younger prisoners."

https://www.bbc.com/...es/cm2d2me0eljo

Hmm... seems a bit like "oh no we don't have the death penalty, that's uncivilised, we give them the chance to fight for their life... even though we know other prisoners are almost certainly going to kill them---they get a fighting chance". But you don't even try to monetize all the surveillance footage? Big Brother: Prison Gladiators edition...

I don't recall ever having heard about Lostprophets before, but since they reportedly sold millions of albums I'd guess he was rich. It's nice that he wasn't able to buy his way into a luxury resort prison (the American way!... while poor people get the firing squad). OTOH there's a case to be made for prisoners who are extremely likely to be murdered by fellow inmates to at least be given the option of solitary confinement. (Especially after he survived the first attack.)

But even the most evil people can still positively contribute to society. Was he singing the praises of violent pedophilia from prison?... Or tweeting that Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja is actually about the glory of raping babies?

[Macros]

They were a pretty sol8d band with A few massive hit singles (in the UK at least)
I was a big fan of their stuff at the time, but obviously have not listened to them since his shit became known.
Not sure how you would find their tunes now, Im assuming all official stuff has been stripped from YouTube, Spotify, etc and damned if im going to search to check and give them any clicks.

You have to wonder or assume someone else in the band and or team knew or suspected, this doesn't happen in a vacuum

[Maark Abbott]

Macros, on 12 October 2025 - 12:37 PM, said:

They were a pretty sol8d band with A few massive hit singles (in the UK at least)
I was a big fan of their stuff at the time, but obviously have not listened to them since his shit became known.
Not sure how you would find their tunes now, Im assuming all official stuff has been stripped from YouTube, Spotify, etc and damned if im going to search to check and give them any clicks.

You have to wonder or assume someone else in the band and or team knew or suspected, this doesn't happen in a vacuum

So my guitarist was in a band that supported them back in the day, apparently their bassist caught on and tried to whistleblow and it didn't get taken seriously for whatever reason. But he's minded that the band knew something wasn't right with the guy. Said he felt really 'off', if you get what I mean.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Maark Abbott, on 13 October 2025 - 05:11 AM, said:

So my guitarist was in a band that supported them back in the day, apparently their bassist caught on and tried to whistleblow and it didn't get taken seriously for whatever reason. But he's minded that the band knew something wasn't right with the guy. Said he felt really 'off', if you get what I mean.

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The former girlfriend of paedophile Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins [says that she] and another person reported Watkins to the authorities four times before he was arrested, but [were] not believed.

[...] "I have always been scared of him getting out and tracking me down or something, so this is a relief." [...]

"The man I fell in love with never existed. He manipulated me and that man who died today in prison was a stranger to me. I never loved him, he just put on a character," she said.

[...] "This is the second time someone has slashed his throat. I expected it to have happened earlier. He's been in there for almost 13 years."

Ian Watkins' ex-girlfriend speaks out after paedophile Lostprophets singer killed in prison attack | The Independent

13 years... the average time between sentencing and execution for a death row inmate in the United States was 18.9 years as of 2020. So (fwiw) I asked DeepSeek:

If child sex offenders in the UK get murdered within 15 years, does that probably make it a more economically efficient and time efficient de facto death penalty on average than the US death penalty system with its lengthy and costly appeals process?

Excerpts from DeepSeek's responses spoilered for length:

Spoiler

US Death Penalty: Is incredibly expensive. A single case can cost millions more than a case where the prosecution seeks life without parole. This is due to lengthy trials, mandatory appeals, specialized security on death row, and the complex legal process designed to prevent wrongful execution. The time from sentencing to execution often spans decades.

UK De Facto Outcome: The state incarcerates someone for a heinous crime, and they are killed by another inmate within a few years. The direct financial cost of the appeals process is avoided. The time between sentence and death is often shorter.

By these crude metrics alone, the UK's de facto outcome appears more "economically and time efficient." [...]

While the UK avoids the cost of a death penalty appeals process, the de facto system has its own significant costs:

Murder Investigations: Every prison homicide triggers a major, expensive police investigation.

Coroner's Inquests & Public Inquiries: These are mandatory, lengthy, and costly legal proceedings that scrutinize the state's failures.

Civil Lawsuits: The families of murdered prisoners can and do sue the Ministry of Justice for failing in its duty of care, resulting in substantial payouts.

Systemic Costs: The constant need for VPUs, protection measures, and transfers is itself a massive and ongoing administrative cost.

DeepSeek gave me---and the UK---a nice lecture on why this is very immoral, but I'll leave most of that out. The irony is that those arguments are grounded more in tradition and traditional beliefs about what values a society has chosen rather than in empirical rationality and the reality of what values most people in society---or those in power---ultimately chose, which may be flexibly applied and modified (or negated) in different contexts. I'll spare you most of DeepSeek's moral lecturing, but here's a brief taste:

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[UK model:] A faster, cheaper, but lawless system where the state neglects its duty and allows prisoners to be killed, operating outside the law [...]

To argue that [this] is "more efficient" is to prioritize cost and speed over the foundational principles of a civilized society: the rule of law, state responsibility, and the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment.

A few more excerpts from my ensuing conversations with DeepSeek:

For solitary confinement, how much could virtual reality substitute for social interaction? Or alternately limiting social interaction to being done through bars or plexiglass or some other barrier that would make stabbings difficult?

DeepSeek:

Spoiler

This is not science fiction. The U.S. prison system has already begun piloting VR programs for inmates in solitary confinement, primarily for:

Transporting them to virtual nature settings for stress reduction.

Providing vocational training (e.g., simulating a warehouse job).

Allowing them to "attend" a church service or classroom setting with other inmates.

[...] the technology is advancing rapidly. With full-body motion capture and high-fidelity avatars, VR can transmit a surprising amount of social data:

Body Language: Cameras can track head tilt, hand gestures, posture, and even the direction a person is facing.

Proxemics: Avatars can maintain personal space or move closer, replicating real-world social spacing.

Voice and Gaze: Integrated audio and eye-track

The Potential for Social VR in a Segregated Unit:Imagine a VPU where inmates, confined to their cells, can don a headset for a scheduled period and enter a shared virtual space—a common room, a basketball court, a classroom. They could see each other as avatars and interact through voice chat.


The Profound Limitations and New Dangers:Even with perfect technology, the problems are significant:


The "Uncanny Valley" and Authenticity: The interaction would still feel artificial. The subtle, unconscious micro-expressions and the full sensory experience of being with someone are lost. It's a facsimile of community, which may highlight the very isolation it's trying to alleviate.


Weaponization of the Platform: This virtual space would become a new arena for prison politics.


Cyber-bullying and Harassment: Inmates could surround an avatar, verbally abuse it, or use virtual gestures to threaten and intimidate.


Formation of Virtual Gangs: Cliques could form to control virtual territories and pick on weaker avatars.


The "VR Privilege" Problem: Access to this system would be a massive point of contention and a tool for control by both inmates and guards.


2. Barrier-Enabled Communal SpacesThis is arguably the more practical and immediately beneficial idea. You are essentially describing a "Non-Contact Socialization Wing."


Feasibility and Design:This is highly feasible from an engineering and architectural standpoint. We can look to existing models:


Contact Visitation Booths: The model already exists but is scaled up.


Zoo Design: Modern zoos create habitats where dangerous animals are separated from each other and the public by moats and clever barriers that are nearly invisible.


High-Security Courtrooms: Defendants are often housed in glass enclosures.


A potential design could be a large room or a series of connected pods. Inmates would enter individual or small-group cubicles that are physically separated by floor-to-ceiling, shatter-resistant plexiglass or strong metal mesh. Each cubicle would have its own door to the corridor, preventing contact during entry and exit.


Acoustics would be the primary challenge, but this is solvable with:


Individual Speakers/Microphones in each booth, potentially with noise-canceling technology.


Sound Zones: Technology that directs audio so you primarily hear the people you are facing.


Benefits:


Dramatic Risk Reduction: This would virtually eliminate spontaneous physical violence, stabbings, and the constant tension of being within arm's reach of a potential attacker.


Preservation of Humanity: It allows for genuine, real-time, in-person social interaction. Inmates could play board games (using a duplicate set in each booth), talk, read body language, and even share meals at the same time. This is profoundly more humanizing than VR.


Manageable Hierarchy: While verbal harassment would still be possible, the physical threat is removed, potentially allowing for more relaxed and normalized interaction.


Drawbacks:


Cost: Retrofitting existing prisons or building new ones with this specialized architecture would be very expensive.


The "Human Hamster Cage" Effect: The environment could feel clinically sterile and deeply dehumanizing, constantly reminding inmates of their status as dangerous objects.


Logistical Complexity: Moving inmates from their cells to these communal pods would still require careful scheduling and escort procedures to prevent conflicts in the hallways.


Conclusion: A Hybrid Future?The most realistic and humane path forward likely involves a combination of both concepts, recognizing that neither is a perfect solution but both are better than the current reality of total isolation or lethal integration.


Barrier-Enabled Communal Spaces would be the primary method for mandatory social time. This provides the essential, real-world sensory and social input that human brains require to stay healthy.


Advanced VR would be a supplemental tool available in-cell for optional activities: education, therapy, immersive movies, and nature experiences. It would be a tool for mental escape and stimulation, not a primary social conduit.


Your line of questioning correctly identifies that the current binary choice—"brutal solitary confinement" or "dangerous general population"—is a false one. With thoughtful design and technology, we can create a third way: environments of managed safety that actively work to preserve humanity rather than destroy it. The goal isn't to make prison pleasant, but to prevent it from becoming psychologically destructive in ways that serve no rehabilitative or societal purpose.

In place of social media, it seems like prisoners could be granted access to AI-based simulated social media (with the AI unable to send messages to the broader internet). Then they wouldn't be able to coordinate criminal activities but could still get some of the benefits of socialization with AI emulations of people. And prison psychologists could monitor their activity and perhaps alter the AI responses to help rehabilitate them.

DeepSeek:

Spoiler

The idea of using a fully self-contained, AI-driven simulated social environment as a tool for prisoners in segregation is a logical extension of our discussion, and it's one that researchers and technologists are actively exploring.

[...] The Potential Benefits: A Controlled Social Sandbox
Your proposal directly addresses several core problems:

Unprecedented Safety and Control: [...] a closed-loop AI system completely eliminates the risk of contacting victims, coordinating real-world crime, or accessing harmful content. It is the ultimate controlled environment.

On-Demand Social Stimulation: It could provide 24/7 access to social interaction, conversation, and even debate, something no human-staffed program can offer. This could be a powerful tool against the sensory deprivation and loneliness of solitary.

Rehabilitative Potential: This is where it gets most interesting. Psychologists could design scenarios to:

Practice Pro-Social Skills: An inmate could practice having a difficult conversation, dealing with rejection, or expressing anger in a non-violent way, all in a consequence-free environment.

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT): The AI could be programmed to identify cognitive distortions (e.g., "Everyone is out to get me") and gently challenge them, guiding the user toward more adaptive thought patterns.

Exposure Therapy: For an inmate with poor social anxiety or trauma, they could gradually practice social interactions at their own pace.

[...] Supplement, Not Replace: It should be used to supplement human interaction and real-world social skill practice, not replace it. It could be a training ground for skills to be used later in a safer, barrier-enabled common room.

... obviously a winning political platform... maybe we should call it Ian's Law?

Seems like a waste of humanity---that could be put to better uses, first in the sort of controlled and surveilled environments above for human psychological testing (and perhaps drug or other testing, particularly if they consent or are rendered braindead), and secondly as mandatory organ donors (if they forfeit their lives, they should at least forfeit those organs they won't be using any more after they're dead---while some child sex offenders might be genuinely devout and have religious objections because they believe they need to be properly buried in the ground (and not dug up afterwards) to go to Heaven, I'd wager most would swear to even more passionate religious objections to being sent to prison (if that would keep them out)...).

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 13 October 2025 - 01:59 PM