[Trake]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.

By speculating on what roles you think people have, you're giving a potential recruitment list to the recruiters.

Instead of saying who you don't think is a recruiter and why for every single person, the focus should be on who you think IS a recruiter and for what reasons.

[Okaros]

Hanas, on 07 March 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 07 March 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

Hanas, on 07 March 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Mockra, on 07 March 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

I'm tempted to think Okaros is playing a ballsy recruiter move to get himself a free bodyguard.

Really? I think we can rule that out. Here's the character from the initial info post:

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Dr. Whitby Lodge
The Coroner

Dr. Lodge has lived in the town of Innsmouth all his life, and despite the rash of crazy murders and sacrifices to Dark Gods that took place a few years back, he quite enjoys this little town. Things had been quiet for some time, but now there are rumours of cultist activities. He and his trusty bottle of Jack are ready to deal with what he dreads will be a bloody showdown between the two cults that are rumoured to be at war in Innsmouth.

So we can be pretty sure that a CF role is in the game somewhere. If this was a recruiter, then someone would counter-claim surely?

They could be keeping down but imho their hide wouldn't be worth more than the lynch of a recruiter we would get if they revealed. Which is also something that Okaros would have probably considered before doing this so I agree the chances they're lying are low.

Hanas, on 07 March 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 07 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

At 9-1-1, Okaros is either stupid town or genius cult. After last game, I want stupid town gown. Especially in a cult game where they might end up on my team if I'm recruited.

Vote Okaros

I don't like this vote at all.

Remove Vote
Vote Kaschan

Losing the CF would REALLY hurt town, and the odds seem decent that this reveal is genuine. That Kaschan is so willing to get rid of such an important role shows that he either doesn't care about the CF because he's Cult, or that he is the stupid town of which he speaks. Either way, probably not a great idea to keep such a player around.

Going for the low-hanging fruit?

I guess? It's not like there's a huge amount of fruit higher up in the tree to pick (although there have been a few interesting reactions to Okaros's reveal that might be worth digging into). Kaschan rubbed me the wrong way earlier in the day as well, so I figure it's worth applying some pressure.

Kaschan's reaction to the above passage of play

Kaschan, on 07 March 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

I don't like stupid reveals or people not playing for town. Lynch me.

Have fun.

Shows disinterest and willingness to die, not recruiteresque, kind of the opposite to Bek's reaction earlier.

[Iparth Erule]

Trake, on 09 March 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.

By speculating on what roles you think people have, you're giving a potential recruitment list to the recruiters.

Instead of saying who you don't think is a recruiter and why for every single person, the focus should be on who you think IS a recruiter and for what reasons.

This. Naming someone who could potentially block recruits? That has got to be about the most anti-town move possible.

Vote Okaros

[Okaros]

Trake, on 09 March 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.

By speculating on what roles you think people have, you're giving a potential recruitment list to the recruiters.

Instead of saying who you don't think is a recruiter and why for every single person, the focus should be on who you think IS a recruiter and for what reasons.

I am eliminating people from my suspect pool.

I think two recruiters are out of Alkend, Bek, Iparth and at a push Kaschan.

[Iparth Erule]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

Trake, on 09 March 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.

By speculating on what roles you think people have, you're giving a potential recruitment list to the recruiters.

Instead of saying who you don't think is a recruiter and why for every single person, the focus should be on who you think IS a recruiter and for what reasons.

I am eliminating people from my suspect pool.

I think two recruiters are out of Alkend, Bek, Iparth and at a push Kaschan.

Conveniently forgets Gamelon again

[Okaros]

Bek Okhan, on 08 March 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 08 March 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

Fanderay, on 07 March 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

I left out the rest because it's irrelevant. I'm not criticizing your overall attitude but only the suspicion you were spreading with the first part of the post. But while we're at it your overall attitude was as neutral as it gets by the time of the post.
Anyone who reads the quote will be able to tell it's been cut off, I even refer to it as only a part of the post.

So you are proposing we lynch someone... for an unfinished thought.

I don't think I buy that.

Of the remainder, lynching a CF is not a good idea.

This may seem like OMGUS but

remove vote

vote Bek Okhan




seriously, getting touchy over one early vote to the point of calling it "misleading chaos" is a bit much. feels odd and forced.

probably gonna pass out soon, so we'll see what happens tomorrow.

Well, if that's the way you want it -

Apart from the Okaros incident, you are the one who stuck out the most to me

Vote Gamelon

Bek's reaction to Gam's vote on him. Very defensive OMGus play from Bek.

The main thing to look for on this day one is exactly this sort of behaviour because they only have themselves to protect themselves.

[Okaros]

Iparth Erule, on 08 March 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Bek Okhan

No reason for his vote at all. Does not choose to voice an opinion

[Iparth Erule]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 08 March 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Bek Okhan

No reason for his vote at all. Does not choose to voice an opinion

If you want to be completely pedantic then you'll note the extraneous ' ' after Okhan and the identical capitalisation to the vote down before me. This would be because it was close to timeout and I took the shortcut of deleting text rather than trying to type the correct characters or fight the screen to bold my own text. Reason was pretty damned obvious - it was the only train with a hope of getting a lynch. Check out the vote before mine, extraneous ' ' too.

Also, bed.

[Okaros]

Now we are on to day two. After that read up I have my main suspects, reading Alkend puts him less likely to be cult out of those mentioned. Bek has weird reactions to being voted for and Iparth's main contribution to this game is to be snarky towards me.

So I am happy to be voting for Bek, yet would switch to Iparth if people wanted to vote that way.

[Iparth Erule]

By deleting text I mean I quoted the vote before mine and deleted the [text / formatting ] [] junk in order to get it down faster

[Iparth Erule]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Now we are on to day two. After that read up I have my main suspects, reading Alkend puts him less likely to be cult out of those mentioned. Bek has weird reactions to being voted for and Iparth's main contribution to this game is to be snarky towards me.

So I am happy to be voting for Bek, yet would switch to Iparth if people wanted to vote that way.

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[Hanas]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.

Why are you speculating about the roles players have on thread? That's horrific play for town. Makes me think maybe you've been recruited. If that's the case, you'd probably put your master in the list of potential recruiters to hide them from scrutiny. Serc and Fanderay are clearly not recruiters, but your logic for marking Trake, myself and Mockra as no recruiters is pretty damn thin. For one thing, you're way off on Trake and I being lovers - there's no connection there.

If you were recruited last night (and as we've already discussed, that is possible given the order of resolutions), then I think either Trake or Mockra must be your master. Just have to decide whether that's what happened or if you're just a REALLY stupid townie.

[Hanas]

Ah, I suppose Gamelon could be your master as well, the way you left him off all your lists. Seems like a pretty terrible way of trying to keep the limelight off them (because of course people are going to notice), but I guess it's possible.

[Okaros]

Hanas, on 09 March 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ah, I suppose Gamelon could be your master as well, the way you left him off all your lists. Seems like a pretty terrible way of trying to keep the limelight off them (because of course people are going to notice), but I guess it's possible.

Are you saying I am wrong? I would usually agree with you regarding the speculation but not this game. If all those roles are in the game then it leaves a small place for the recruiters to hide.

[Trake]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

Hanas, on 09 March 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ah, I suppose Gamelon could be your master as well, the way you left him off all your lists. Seems like a pretty terrible way of trying to keep the limelight off them (because of course people are going to notice), but I guess it's possible.

Are you saying I am wrong? I would usually agree with you regarding the speculation but not this game. If all those roles are in the game then it leaves a small place for the recruiters to hide.

I don't get how you don't get how your speculation on who has what roles is bad for town. It's exactly like in a town vs scum game, you wouldn't be like - 'oh, I don't think that player is a killer because they definitely seem like a finder to me, for these reasons...'. Yes, your speculation can be wrong - as Hanas already pointed out - but that doesn't make it any better because then it simply muddies the waters for town.

You're really giving off a whiff of being recruited now.

[Hanas]

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

Hanas, on 09 March 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ah, I suppose Gamelon could be your master as well, the way you left him off all your lists. Seems like a pretty terrible way of trying to keep the limelight off them (because of course people are going to notice), but I guess it's possible.

Are you saying I am wrong? I would usually agree with you regarding the speculation but not this game. If all those roles are in the game then it leaves a small place for the recruiters to hide.

You are wrong in your guess that Trake and I are lovers. That's not the case and it's why I think you might be trying to hide the possibility of Trake being a recruiter.

If you were town, then I would have expected you to run through this kind of logic by yourself and then post the results of it on thread, leaving out details that should probably be kept to yourself. You could have said: "I have done some re-reads and think the recruiters are probably in this pool of players" and communicated the same message without vomiting role spec everywhere. But instead you're spewing out hypotheses that scum can seize upon to push their own agendas.

[Trake]

Hanas, on 09 March 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

Okaros, on 09 March 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

Hanas, on 09 March 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ah, I suppose Gamelon could be your master as well, the way you left him off all your lists. Seems like a pretty terrible way of trying to keep the limelight off them (because of course people are going to notice), but I guess it's possible.

Are you saying I am wrong? I would usually agree with you regarding the speculation but not this game. If all those roles are in the game then it leaves a small place for the recruiters to hide.

You are wrong in your guess that Trake and I are lovers. That's not the case and it's why I think you might be trying to hide the possibility of Trake being a recruiter.

If you were town, then I would have expected you to run through this kind of logic by yourself and then post the results of it on thread, leaving out details that should probably be kept to yourself. You could have said: "I have done some re-reads and think the recruiters are probably in this pool of players" and communicated the same message without vomiting role spec everywhere. But instead you're spewing out hypotheses that scum can seize upon to push their own agendas.

As I already said. Now just swap 'Trake' for 'Hanas'

[Okaros]

Ah, no hidden agendas. Lynch Bek or Iparth. Sorry for giving my thoughts as I went.

[Alkend]

Why vote Okaros, IE?

Agreed what they've been doing post-reveal is not beneficial to town, but they are unlikely to be one of the recruiters. And this is ultimately who we want to get.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 11 hours and 46 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Mockra, Iparth Erule )
1 Vote for Bek Okhan ( Okaros )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Kaschan, Serc, Trake